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effzee · Jan 7, 2020

Also, what does it say about Josh McDaniels - was scheduled to interview with the Panthers and Giants they both hired a coach before they even sat down with him.

With the Giants - did they know he wouldn't want to work with DG? Were both teams worried he isn't serious and might pull another move as he did with the Colts? Do they know he only wants to go to Cleveland or stay in NE?

I guess teams aren't as interested in him as originally believed.

MechDX · Jan 7, 2020

verygooster said:
The hire makes so much sense now

History of violence

NinjaScooter · Jan 7, 2020

Deleted member 1476 · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
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Fucking y i k e s

The Albatross · Jan 7, 2020

Having been watching the Patriots my entire life and never hearing the name Joe Judge until today, if he's ST coordinator, that's different than "WR Coach" like Schefter said.

MechDX said:
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What does this mean?

MechDX · Jan 7, 2020

The Albatross said:
Having been watching the Patriots my entire life and never hearing the name Joe Judge until today, if he's ST coordinator, that's different than "WR Coach" like Schefter said.

Name 3 special teams coordinators that dont coach on the team you support

Mudcrab · Jan 7, 2020

Isnt Garret supposed to be a good OC? Don't think its that crazy of a hire.

MechDX · Jan 7, 2020

Wow

Nemesis121 · Jan 7, 2020

effzee said:
Also, what does it say about Josh McDaniels - was scheduled to interview with the Panthers and Giants they both hired a coach before they even sat down with him.

After burning the Colts, no one should be hiring him..

Deleted member 31104 · Jan 7, 2020

cagey said:
OH FUCK OFF LET THIS GARRETT NIGHTMARE END

Garrett was a phenomenally successful oc before becoming head coach and he managed to get two late round qb into top 10 qbs

lt519 · Jan 7, 2020

Mudcrab said:
Isnt Garret supposed to be a good OC? Don't think its that crazy of a hire.

Yep, it'd be a really smart hire for the giants. You get HC experience behind Judge, a good OC, and he has done pretty good developing QBs.

Flex1212 · Jan 7, 2020

The Giants have really lost their way. Joe Judge? Really?

The Albatross · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
Name 3 special teams coordinators that dont coach on the team you support

I don't know what carping point you're trying to make, but mine was that the Patriots WRs were abysmal this year, while their special teams was merely bysmal, so it doesn't seem as bad as first written by shefter

effzee · Jan 7, 2020

Violence Jack said:
The Giants not immediately picking Wade Phillips as DC is baffling to me.

I think he only wants to run a 3-4.

MechDX said:
Wow

And don't forget the buyout from Baylor, which I think is $8m

thewienke · Jan 7, 2020

Violence Jack said:
What about Romeo Crennel, Matt Patricia, McDaniels Denver Broncos tenure, Eric Mangini, Charlie Weis, Nick Saban's Dolphins tenure, and Al Groh?

It's hilarious people forget that McDaniels wasn't even a good OC in St. Louis for that one year too.

effzee · Jan 7, 2020

Nemesis121 said:
After burning the Colts, no one should be hiring him..

Oh I agree but it could also be that he doesn't want to work with DG and the Browns are his top choice.

Tom Penny · Jan 7, 2020

thewienke said:
It's hilarious people forget that McDaniels wasn't even a good OC in St. Louis for that one year too.

They pretty much had the worst offense in the league.

Tamanon · Jan 7, 2020

effzee said:
I think he only wants to run a 3-4.

Bring Wade to the Jags then! I think we could run a beast of a 3-4

effzee · Jan 7, 2020

Racist ass Giants should have hired Eric Bieniemy as the HC and Kris Richard as the DC.

lt519 · Jan 7, 2020

effzee said:
Oh I agree but it could also be that he doesn't want to work with DG and the Browns are his top choice.

That is 100% it. Browns are offering something the Giants aren't, which is bring your own GM and own the program. Plus McDaniels loves Baker. I think the Giants had to assume they weren't his top choice.

chadskin · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
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not a good look for Judge Joe

Deleted member 12224 · Jan 7, 2020

kmag said:
Garrett was a phenomenally successful oc before becoming head coach and he managed to get two late round qb into top 10 qbs

Perhaps its hatred for him as a HC candidate bleeding into my view of him for other jobs, but I don't give him much credit for Romo's development, individually, and his offenses have always been loaded with talent.

Romo got to Dallas in the 2003 offseason. Garrett didn't arrive in Dallas until 2007.

Romo was much closer to the finished top 10 product when he arrived than the UDFA he was when he entered the league.

The Dak argument is more compelling.

alr1ght · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
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excellent timing.

Hiring and trailer release within an hour of each other.

Sanjuro · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
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#FreeHernandez

Deleted member 31104 · Jan 7, 2020

effzee said:
Racist ass Giants should have hired Eric Bieniemy as the HC and Kris Richard as the DC.

Well that's a take, Richard might end up dc anyway but the knock Bieniemy is that the Giants want to move away from the Wco McAdoo and Shurmur both ran wco and Shurmur was also a Reid disciple

NinjaScooter · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
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how deep does this go?

futurevoid · Jan 7, 2020

effzee said:
I think he only wants to run a 3-4.

The Giants have run a 3-4 under Bettcher for two years. It's multiple look but its a base 3-4 defense so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything in regards to Wade Philips. (not that I'm advocating for him either)

OfficerRob · Jan 7, 2020

I've literally never heard of Joe Judge

Deleted member 12224 · Jan 7, 2020

We don't have the linemen for Wade's 3-4. He runs a one-gap penetrating system and we're loaded up with hog mollies. Leonard Williams, perhaps.

HeavenlyE · Jan 7, 2020

NinjaScooter said:
how deep does this go?

Tom Brady and Aaron Hernandez were sometimes pictured standing together

dred · Jan 7, 2020

Violence Jack said:
What about Romeo Crennel, Matt Patricia, McDaniels Denver Broncos tenure, Eric Mangini, Charlie Weis, Nick Saban's Dolphins tenure, and Al Groh?

Deleted member 1086 · Jan 7, 2020

OfficerRob said:
I've literally never heard of Joe Judge

I think he's the guy that made Beavis and Butthead

Indy in the Fridge · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
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Damn, the media is just hanging Judge out to dry aren't they?

futurevoid · Jan 7, 2020

cagey said:
We don't have the linemen for Wade's 3-4. He runs a one-gap penetrating system and we're loaded up with hog mollies. Leonard Williams, perhaps.

I'll reiterate - I'm not advocating for Wade Phillips (though your statement may not have been directed to me in particular). I am, however dispelling then notion that a coach wanting to install a certain scheme is antithetical to the Giants hiring him considering we've been running a base 3-4 now for some time.

Violence Jack · Jan 7, 2020

dred said:

There's a reason why I left him out. He's going to be the exception.

Nemesis121 · Jan 7, 2020

Garret/Phillips for OC/DC?

OfficerRob · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
Wow

That's fucking insanity

Indy in the Fridge · Jan 7, 2020

OfficerRob said:
That's fucking insanity

Tepper is fucking loaded. The dude was serious about not accepting long-term mediocrity.

Instro · Jan 7, 2020

So what exactly does that tweet about Hernandez mean?

Nemesis121 · Jan 7, 2020

OfficerRob said:
That's fucking insanity

With the incentives dude basically getting paid like Gruden...$10m/season..

The Albatross · Jan 7, 2020

Indy in the Fridge said:
Damn, the media is just hanging Judge out to dry aren't they?

Instro said:
So what exactly does that tweet about Hernandez mean?

I didn't get what Breer's tweet meant at all (and seemingly noone else did they just saw "HERNANDEZ" and "JUDGE" together and RT it), and had to look it up which proved to be annoying because "Judge" and "Hernandez" turns up a lot of shit that is irrelevant. Apparently:

A neighbor of Aaron Hernandez was interviewed by police when police were looking to question Hernandez. The neighbor, Joe Judge (then low level Patriots coach, now apparently NYG Head Coach), told police he had seen Hernandez at the last practice before breaking for summer but hadn't seen him since and didn't know where he was.

That's the story?

djplaeskool · Jan 7, 2020

MechDX said:
Wow

God damn.
Get that money, mang

iareharSon · Jan 7, 2020

Any 32-42 year old offensive minded white men with minimal experience coaching at a meaningful level in the NFL that are looking for an agent? I think I might be able to get you a head coaching gig. We've got to strike while the iron is hot.

MechDX · Jan 7, 2020

They hired his dad!

linkboy · Jan 7, 2020

harSon said:
Any 32-42 year old offensive minded white men with minimal experience coaching at a meaningful level in the NFL that are looking for an agent? I think I might be able to get you a head coaching gig. We've got to strike while the iron is hot.

I've used the Ask Madden button in the past. That should at least qualify me for an interview.

Duxxy3 · Jan 7, 2020

The Albatross said:
I didn't get what Breer's tweet meant at all (and seemingly noone else did they just saw "HERNANDEZ" and "JUDGE" together and RT it), and had to look it up which proved to be annoying because "Judge" and "Hernandez" turns up a lot of shit that is irrelevant. Apparently:

A neighbor of Aaron Hernandez was interviewed by police when police were looking to question Hernandez. The neighbor, Joe Judge (then low level Patriots coach, now apparently NYG Head Coach), told police he had seen Hernandez at the last practice before breaking for summer but hadn't seen him since and didn't know where he was.

That's the story?

My god... so Joe Judge is basically a murderer too then.

NinjaScooter · Jan 7, 2020

Sean McVay broke the league. Every young White dude with an offensive background is a HC candidate. It's like being a tall Euro in the NBA draft in the post-Dirk early 2000s.

chadskin · Jan 7, 2020

The Albatross said:
I didn't get what Breer's tweet meant at all (and seemingly noone else did they just saw "HERNANDEZ" and "JUDGE" together and RT it), and had to look it up which proved to be annoying because "Judge" and "Hernandez" turns up a lot of shit that is irrelevant. Apparently:

A neighbor of Aaron Hernandez was interviewed by police when police were looking to question Hernandez. The neighbor, Joe Judge (then low level Patriots coach, now apparently NYG Head Coach), told police he had seen Hernandez at the last practice before breaking for summer but hadn't seen him since and didn't know where he was.

That's the story?

Once a neighbor of a murderer, always a neighbor of a murderer

Himynameischris · Jan 7, 2020

dred said:
I've thought about it and honestly I want the Dolphins to take the risk. I've seen the safe approach for too long, I've seen them draft a LT with the #1 overall pick... I'm ready for a high risk move that has potential to pay off in a big way. Tua looked like such a special guy when he was playing for Alabama and he seems like a great kid who has the potential to be a fantastic leader. Time to roll the dice!

If he only plays 5 years but gets us an owl I'm down.

MechDX · Jan 7, 2020

Yall need to look at the date on that Breer tweet I posted

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