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NHL Off-season Thread 2019 |OT| You'd still be playing if you had Ryan Reaves

Red_

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For anyone with an Athletic subscription, Russo has a pretty great article on Malkin, and his off season. It’s a great read for even non Pens fans, I had no idea his relationship with Kessel was so bad.
 

a916

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Ah yes, the quiet before the storm... Avs have nothing on today and camp finally opens tomorrow. With the team hitting the actual ice the day after on Friday.

(Rantanen is going to miss some of camp isn't he)
 

Solo

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So like, why doesnt someone just offer sheet Marner and be done with it? Theres enough teams including my own that have either flubbed enough 1st round picks or tend to pick in the lower half that losing 4 1st rounders probably won't change their fates too much.
 

rashbeep

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So like, why doesnt someone just offer sheet Marner and be done with it? Theres enough teams including my own that have either flubbed enough 1st round picks or tend to pick in the lower half that losing 4 1st rounders probably won't change their fates too much.
Idk many teams that can afford him at this point
 

Delryk

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So like, why doesnt someone just offer sheet Marner and be done with it? Theres enough teams including my own that have either flubbed enough 1st round picks or tend to pick in the lower half that losing 4 1st rounders probably won't change their fates too much.
I wish this would be the way it goes. But maybe no teams want to pay him that much (that have the cap)?
 

calder

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Yeah I doubt any team could make a legit offer to Marner now with rosters basically full. Maybe a team with very low payroll, but they wouldn't be the ones who wanted him anyway.
 

a916

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So like, why doesnt someone just offer sheet Marner and be done with it? Theres enough teams including my own that have either flubbed enough 1st round picks or tend to pick in the lower half that losing 4 1st rounders probably won't change their fates too much.
He has to sign it, and it sounds like he wants a Werenski deal.

No one in their right mind wants to throw away 4 1sts for 3 years of Marner, after which he'd have arbitration rights and his QO would be something dumb stupid like 11-13M. He could just accept the QO and walk to free agency in 4 years. That's terrifying.
 

Reckheim

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if he wants more than 8x11. They should just let him play in Switzerland for the year; or whatever he wanted to do.

No one is matching that offer and I wouldn't sign him for anything more then that (even 8x11 is a huge over-payment imo).
 

calder

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Seravalli with a really good article about how having two RFA's is extra stressful for the Jets. Why every day matters for Jets with Laine and Connor


It was quite alarming to read! So to cheer myself up I went to r/leafs


Ahh that's better.

Nameless908 190 points 19 hours ago
Shove it right in his face. Matthews is our #1 C, franchise player and captain. You’re not getting his money.
Good, good... let the hate flow through you.
 
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Wingfan19

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I still don't understand how the Leafs sign Marner... They have zero cap space. Even if they only pay him 1 mil for this season, his cap average will still be 9-11 mil which puts them over. They'd have to trade away like 8 players to get under the cap.
 

samyy

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I still don't understand how the Leafs sign Marner... They have zero cap space. Even if they only pay him 1 mil for this season, his cap average will still be 9-11 mil which puts them over. They'd have to trade away like 8 players to get under the cap.
Technically you can exceed the cap in the off-season by a certain amount. Once the season starts the Leafs would put Horton and Clarkson on LTIR which will allow them to exceed the cap by $10.5M.
 

Red_

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I still don't understand how the Leafs sign Marner... They have zero cap space. Even if they only pay him 1 mil for this season, his cap average will still be 9-11 mil which puts them over. They'd have to trade away like 8 players to get under the cap.
You forget about the capital of cap circumvention, “Rhobidas Island”!
 

Smiley90

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Technically you can exceed the cap in the off-season by a certain amount. Once the season starts the Leafs would put Horton and Clarkson on LTIR which will allow them to exceed the cap by $10.5M.
who are DEFINITELY only long-term injured and definitely totally NO retired, they'll return any moment now! aaaaany moment!
 

Delryk

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if he wants more than 8x11. They should just let him play in Switzerland for the year; or whatever he wanted to do.

No one is matching that offer and I wouldn't sign him for anything more then that (even 8x11 is a huge over-payment imo).
pretty much. Just tell him "let's try contract talk NEXT summer. have fun losing out on 10-11mil this year" and hang up. lol. It'd be a tough thing to tell his agent, but the line needs to be drawn somewhere
 

calder

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Please Chevy, please get even one of our RFA's signed so I can really just fully enjoy the Marner saga.
 

Reckheim

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pretty much. Just tell him "let's try contract talk NEXT summer. have fun losing out on 10-11mil this year" and hang up. lol. It'd be a tough thing to tell his agent, but the line needs to be drawn somewhere
If he doesn't sign now, I don't think there will be any contract talks next year.
 

a916

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Please Chevy, please get even one of our RFA's signed so I can really just fully enjoy the Marner saga.
The one caveat is that Chicago signed their accessory players to big money while giving Toews/Kane much less than they deserved. Marner is good enough that he deserves getting paid but yeah... they need to build on that defense too.
 

calder

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A captain and four (4!) alternates! So much leadership! You know Nashville is bummed they never thought of that, now they can't raise a 'Four Alternate Captains 19-20' banner.
 

calder

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I'm not sure how to handle all this leadership
What do you mean? The leadership group will let you know how to act and comport yourself in the room, due to the example of their leadership. You'll be handling that leadership so well it will be all you can talk about during media interviews for months.
 

calder

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Not the signing I was hoping for today, but I'll take it.

Morrissey at max term for less AAV than Trouba, while being better the better dman overall, feels pretty damn good.
 
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