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NHL PLAYOFFS |OT| PUCK THE PAIN AWAY

Oct 25, 2017
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So the new narrative is that the Sharks always fell short in the playoffs because.... of bounces and bad luck? And that this goofy officiating is now some sort of karmic justice, righting supposed historical wrongs?

 
Oct 27, 2017
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Props to the Sharks fans for owning the role. Die a hero or fail long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Much like the Vegas fans who are still screeching on every Sharks social media post and positing league-wide conspiracy theories, I am just playing the hand I was dealt this time around.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Gotta be honest, after years and years of seeing bad bounces and shitty luck just permeate every part of the Sharks playoff lives I will take these terrible calls and I will caress them until the end of time. I will crawl into my dumpster with them and cackle until we get knocked out.
Damn straight. I won't deny it was a bad call, but I won't also deny after getting burned so many times that it's nice to be on the other end.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Much like the Vegas fans who are still screeching on every Sharks social media post and positing league-wide conspiracy theories, I am just playing the hand I was dealt this time around.
Everyone knows the NHL bribed Vegas to have them let up 4 goals on a single power play, it's not really a conspiracy.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Instead of supposed wrongs being righted, how about we admit that the Sharks didn’t show up when it mattered in the past, while also acknowledging that bad calls happen, and it’s an absolute bad look on a league trying to legitimize itself in the eyes of the masses it’s trying so desperately to be accepted by.

The Sharks fall into the same trap, even if they won the game in the end, that it took a bad call to get them a win. Clearly a segment of its fan base are dumb enough to spin a lack of integrity into “we were due” bullshit lol. I speak as a Leafs fan, where a large segment of the fan base are even bigger idiots, but at least I’m not a Oilers fan.

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Oct 25, 2017
2,343
It's gonna be so sick next season when the whiners get their way and every game has 30 minutes of reviews and they still get stuff wrong all the time.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Instead of supposed wrongs being righted, how about we admit that the Sharks didn’t show up when it mattered in the past, while also acknowledging that bad calls happen, and it’s an absolute bad look on a league trying to legitimize itself in the eyes of the masses it’s trying so desperately to be accepted by.

The Sharks fall into the same trap, even if they won the game in the end, that it took a bad call to get them a win. Clearly a segment of its fan base are dumb enough to spin a lack of integrity into “we were due” bullshit lol. I speak as a Leafs fan, where a large segment of the fan base are even bigger idiots, but at least I’m not a Oilers fan.

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"a lack of integrity" lmfao you're all so serious now holy shit
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Quick laying down the law these days



It's gonna be so sick next season when the whiners get their way and every game has 30 minutes of reviews and they still get stuff wrong all the time.
Getting these sorts of calls right is not a tall order and does not necessarily require video review.

"a lack of integrity" lmfao you're all so serious now holy shit
I think you're confused. He's talking about the league and them fucking up calls. Integrity = internal consistency.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,369
Instead of supposed wrongs being righted, how about we admit that the Sharks didn’t show up when it mattered in the past, while also acknowledging that bad calls happen, and it’s an absolute bad look on a league trying to legitimize itself in the eyes of the masses it’s trying so desperately to be accepted by.

The Sharks fall into the same trap, even if they won the game in the end, that it took a bad call to get them a win. Clearly a segment of its fan base are dumb enough to spin a lack of integrity into “we were due” bullshit lol. I speak as a Leafs fan, where a large segment of the fan base are even bigger idiots, but at least I’m not a Oilers fan.

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I'll admit the Sharks have dropped the ball in the past. Hell, I didn't think they deserved to win tonight at all even before the OT. It was a straight up bad call and it would be nice if they fixed how things are reviewed and I would have had no issue if the rules changed and overturned that goal in the future.

That doesn't mean I won't relish the fact that it did go our way when in the past we've been burned by other calls. Hell we got burned by a call in Game 2 of the first round. We all know that sometimes these calls or bounces can make all the difference in the series and I'm not going to deny that it's nice to have the luck fall in our lap for a change. I won't say we were due, but I will say it's nice to be on the other end.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's gonna be so sick next season when the whiners get their way and every game has 30 minutes of reviews and they still get stuff wrong all the time.
I mean let's not kid ourselves, that goal should have been reviewable.

HOWEVER. I will enjoy this ride as long as it lasts, this has been a wonderful playoffs. Watching the Sharks succeed by playing well and getting these hilarious calls has been a true treat.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Why was that goal not reviewable? I legit don’t get NHLs replay rules
They haven't established parameters around it like they have offside call reviews. E.g., how long ago would the missed glove pass had to have been for it to matter? What about other missed calls? Maybe they just open it up to any infraction before the goal? What about a missed slashing call when the refs had been letting everything go until that point?

I'm not saying these are insurmountable problems, but if implemented, it's probably going to result in some slightly ugly side effects and more long reviews. Still, probably for the best in the long run.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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They haven't established parameters around it like they have offside call reviews. E.g., how long ago would the missed glove pass had to have been for it to matter? What about other missed calls? Maybe they just open it up to any infraction before the goal? What about a missed slashing call when the refs had been letting everything go until that point?

I'm not saying these are insurmountable problems, but if implemented, it's probably going to result in some slightly ugly side effects and more long reviews. Still, probably for the best in the long run.
But what if I already hate the offsides review and find it ruins the game at times?
 

GSG

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Oct 25, 2017
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The call was bullshit but the fact that it's not reviewable is even more bullshit. It puts a lot of pressure on the refs to get it right the first time.

Atleast it was my boy EK that was the benefactor of that blown call.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not many other organizations can say something to the effect of "we have the best people on the job" where those same people are essentially saying "hmm we didn't do our job 🤷🤷🤷🤷"
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Everyone just assumes that video review would result in the "right" call being made and thus controversy being avoided.

Remember when the Sharks challenged that Avs goal as offside in a Game 7, and the right call was made, but people were still mad because they didn't think was conclusive enough?

Remember when the Golden Knights scored a goal in a Game 7 off an obvious high stick, and the goal stood on video review?

There is at least one look from last night that makes it look as though the puck actually deflected off a Blues player before it got to Karlsson (potentially negating the handpass): https://twitter.com/pepepavelski/status/1128863355874234368

I don't know if I agree that the video shows that (and I truly don't care), but it is at least possible that this goal would have stood up on video review anyway.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Everyone just assumes that video review would result in the "right" call being made and thus controversy being avoided.

Remember when the Sharks challenged that Avs goal as offside in a Game 7, and the right call was made, but people were still mad because they didn't think was conclusive enough?

Remember when the Golden Knights scored a goal in a Game 7 off an obvious high stick, and the goal stood on video review?

There is at least one look from last night that makes it look as though the puck actually deflected off a Blues player before it got to Karlsson (potentially negating the handpass): https://twitter.com/pepepavelski/status/1128863355874234368

I don't know if I agree that the video shows that (and I truly don't care), but it is at least possible that this goal would have stood up on video review anyway.
It wouldn’t negate the pass, because possession was never established by the blues player, even if it did grace his leg, which it didn’t.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It wouldn’t negate the pass, because possession was never established by the blues player, even if it did grace his leg, which it didn’t.
I don't know how many times the rule has to be posted but it seems people are incapable of reading that deflections don't really matter.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It wouldn’t negate the pass, because possession was never established by the blues player, even if it did grace his leg, which it didn’t.
I don't know how many times the rule has to be posted but it seems people are incapable of reading that deflections don't really matter.
I'm not arguing that it wasn't a hand pass. I'm pointing out that video review still results in controversial calls. Very rarely are these things as cut and dry as fans make it out to be.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not arguing that it wasn't a hand pass. I'm pointing out that video review still results in controversial calls. Very rarely are these things as cut and dry as fans make it out to be.
You brought up a deflection. Deflection doesn't matter if it still leads to an advantageous situation.

When is something not reviewable? The refs gave Vegas the major after watching the jumbotron so why can't they do that here? There have been such garbage officiating this playoff it's absurd.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'd feel a lot more amendable to proposed changes from the hockey peeps demanding replay of basically everything today if their ideas of how to do it weren't so fucking awful. Jesus some bad ideas out there by the exact same people who complain about off-sides review ruining excitement.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The officiating this year is absolutely horrible. It is the sole reason that the Ducks missed the playoffs and aren't cruising to the Final as we speak. I'll never forgive this league, and will for the rest of my days consider the Ducks to be the 2019 Stanley Cup Champions.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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The officiating this year is absolutely horrible. It is the sole reason that the Ducks missed the playoffs and aren't cruising to the Final as we speak. I'll never forgive this league, and will for the rest of my days consider the Ducks to be the 2019 Stanley Cup Champions.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that if the league was even remotely competent and had even a handful of decent refs the Jets and Ducks would be in the WCF as we speak and none of this horrible stuff would have happened.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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When is something not reviewable? The refs gave Vegas the major after watching the jumbotron so why can't they do that here? There have been such garbage officiating this playoff it's absurd.
Wasn't the complaint that they did do that and shouldn't have? The NHL even apologized for it.