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Ninja Theory sets a new benchmark in video game animation
- Thread starter Oggmeiler
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Good shit to those artists. I love it.Same capture studio
More importantly, more than 19 people can work on it at any one time since they aren't a missed paycheck from being evicted anymore.
B-b-b-but WILL IT BE AS GOOD
WILL IT BE DARK SOULS OR DARK SOULS-ESQUE?
Omg!
In all seriousness I hope it's as good as the first game, it's pretty underrated imo
I'm surprised that so many people here are very sceptical. The first game already looked very impressive, especially the main character and her face. Going by the fact that this is on next gen console and PC, and that it's made by Ninja Theory who are well known for very impressive facial animations, it would be harder to believe that it won't look as good as this trailer.
But... will it play like Dark Souls?
I hope it still plays like the original. Senua didn't play like a powerhouse and could be toppled or set offbalance by heavy blows making the right response to attacks feel like they mattered more.
When people earlier this generation were like, "video games can't look any better" I would always laugh. I got to see the machines the Houston Rockets use for their promotions a while back, and they showed me this model of James Harden they use for their promos. I learned that many of the "videos" they show on the giant screen at games aren't actually videos, they're 3D models with insane animations. They are, without hyperbole, photorealistic models, well beyond the uncanney valley, that are essentially indistinguishable from actual, real video. It blew my damn mind. And we could preview them in real time. These were running on super computers, computers with like 10 GPUs inside, doing crazy raytracing, that were the size of refrigerators. But the point still remained -- there is so much room for growth as technology increases.
shout out to all the artists that are gonna fill the worlds we play in up to the brim in details with all the new juiceWhile the animations are indeed impressive, the micro details like these are really capturing my imagination. So. Much. Detail.
Yeah title's misleading. Motion capture isn't quite the same as animation in the context that it's being used here lol.
Their facial capture last-gen was amazing as well. There were parts of Enslaved that I couldn't believe at the time.
No, the animation remains perfect even if the gameplay doesnt match the cutscene.
The motion capture, you mean. The game's animations remain to be seen.
This is wrong. Motion capture doesn't work like you think it does. Motion capture is a series of keyframes that are captured. There is a ton of hand animation that goes from taking a motion capture sample into this kind of animation. When you use raw mocap data without doing a ton of work on it, it does not look like this at all. For one, even the most advanced facial mocap schemes do not have this many points of articulation. Any articulation lacking, is essentially traditional animation applied over the keyframes.
i love the nerds in this thread who think that because something is motion captured that it doesn't have any animation work done on it
people saying it doesnt count because its mocap as if that doesnt then go through animators doesnt know how mocap works.
I wasn't looking to argue with you especially not if you're entire argument is pointing at an award. I don't mind being in the minority, but whenever I have talked with people that like the game it was rarely for the combat.
Looks fantastic, but I am more interested in ingame animations. Hopefully a trailer will drop at this upcoming E3...
This trailer was amazing, and as someone who finds very little scary or unnerving in games, it gave me a palpable feeling of dread. Senua looks like an actor and not a video game rendering of an actor. If the rest of the game looks this good it will quite an achievement.
It also makes me chuckle to think people have been pushing the idea that next gen won't be much of a leap. If this is any indication, games coming out in the next few years are going to look insane.
It also makes me chuckle to think people have been pushing the idea that next gen won't be much of a leap. If this is any indication, games coming out in the next few years are going to look insane.
Who cares? It's in engine. What other game touches Senua in that video, cutscene or otherwise?
This. Enthuists, amirite?
Thinly veiled. A cross-platform sequel thread would look much different.
ND's animation team utilizes full performance capture that is cleaned up and iterated on just like NT's titles. The way people always prop ND up as a studio with a unique workflow as if every studio just uses raw mocap data reminds me of the time gamers discovered the concept of frustum culling due to this:
and attributed it as a unique aspect of Decima.
They've said it's running in real time. Hellblade, with a much smaller budget and presumably a smaller team, was one of the best looking games of that year and a hallmark achievement when it came to character performance and passing the uncanny valley, and they announced that with an in-engine trailer. 🤷♂️
ND's animation team utilizes full performance capture that is cleaned up and iterated on just like NT's titles. The way people always prop ND up as a studio with a unique workflow as if every studio just uses raw mocap data reminds me of the time gamers discovered the concept of frustum culling due to this:
and attributed it as a unique aspect of Decima.
Hellblade is using full likeness of mo-cap actress.
Naughty dog uses the mo-cap with fictional designs.
If you knew anything about how the tech works you'd know that 1:1 digital double full likeness literally does not matter...that's like, straight up one of the main advantages of the technology. If anything, NT would know all about that....considering the part where you know, they were the first game studio to use full performance capture and did so in a game where literally everyone but Andy Serkis's character had a fictional design.
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I dunno, the way her throat shoulders and collar bones animated (with the heavy breathing) really are what set that whole thing apart for me. I hope thats not relegated to non-interactive bits
Actually, this looks on the level of that flick Beowulf by Zemeckis. Or at least, really, really close to it. Its fucking stunning. Ive watched it enough times to fill an entire season of Breaking Bad. IIts beyond ridiculous at this point.
Again, there is no point to make the distinction between stylized characters and digital doubles unless you are completely misinformed about how performance capture actually works, as that doesn't determine the quality of the end result.
Or alternatively you were just stating something that wasn't even true, the vast majority of NT's titles with this sort of technology had stylized characters. Hellblade was the first time they went for photorealism, that, and ND's been pushing towards photorealism, where the majority of the characters in their games are digital doubles of real people.
Sure, it'll be great to see gameplay footage, but it is real-time.
