No, this is embarrassing:
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Ninja Theory sets a new benchmark in video game animation
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No, this is embarrassing:
Ninja Theory has already been lock-step with Naughty Dog on a technical level far longer than 10 years.
More people need to play NT games, obviously.
Nothing embarrassing about what I said. Nor does your opinion change anything I said. There ain't shit in the current gen (including what ND has done lately..) that can touch what this trailer by NT has achieved with Series X. I respect your opinion, but its wrong. Point blank.
Just give credit where credit is due. I'm sure Sony and ND will show some stellar material as well. But it ain't today broski. Not today...
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Fact is Naughty Dog is one of the best developer in the world for the last 10 years and Ninja Theory isn't . Fact is Hellblade 2 trailer is nothing more than an in game engine trailer without any gameplay. Fact is TLOU2 will sell millions within the first 3 days of release.
No, the muscle deformation is a definite step up from what's in TLOU2. Next gen graphics isn't just about polygons, it allows for better and more complex rigging as well.
What do sales have to do with animations? LOL
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You never see models this detailed when playing a game because the camera is pulled out. You can't play a game where a face takes up half the screen. Face: The Game. Ooh, exciting!
So "the game will most likely not look that good" is a given for any game vs a cut scene.
If they nail that lighting, though, that will be amazing.
It reminds me of the dark sorcerer demo that was used to showcase the ps4
https://youtu.be/BqeuHGESZBA
Do we feel like quantic dream was able to reach that quality in their actual game?
https://youtu.be/BqeuHGESZBA
Do we feel like quantic dream was able to reach that quality in their actual game?
Thanks for pushing the standards and picking an actress that isn't completely fitting every standard of beauty whatsoever safe for two little imperfections.
Oh ...
You've managed to out embarass the posts you're responding to. Incredible.
She's very very good, and what makes it funnier is that she isn't even an actress, at least when the first game was being made. Her actual job was/is as a video editor and only got the job after standing in for the role.
Thanks for pushing the standards and picking an actress that isn't completely fitting every standard of beauty whatsoever safe for two little imperfections.
Oh ...
Way to miss the point.
And yet MKX outsold all other fighting games this gen except Smash.
It's not like Skyrim is the bastion of good animations either, yet it sells truckloads.
Maybe next they can try making the gameplay in their games not incredibly mediocre.
I know I'm in the minority (somehow), but I thought Hellblade was a 5/10, at best. The puzzles were so bad (move the camera around until you see a symbol), the combat was bad.
It had some neat visuals and the acting was well done, but a game needs more than that, like the game part.
I know I'm in the minority (somehow), but I thought Hellblade was a 5/10, at best. The puzzles were so bad (move the camera around until you see a symbol), the combat was bad.
It had some neat visuals and the acting was well done, but a game needs more than that, like the game part.
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Naughty Dog are the kings.. NT has a long way to go still to just be worthy of comparing them side by side.
Are people really acting like because of an in engine trailer? I'm just shocked
Are people really acting like because of an in engine trailer? I'm just shocked
So I embarrassed myself with facts? Tell me how those 3 facts that I had listed is embarrassing. You can't.
You either know this is wrong, in which case you're lying. Or you don't know this is wrong, in which case today's the day you learned that this is wrong.
Their combat has always been solid. Hellblade's combat was perfectly fine for the game they created. By the end of it, I had mastered the parry, dodge, charge, and focus mechanics, and the combat took on a HUGE new level with headphones on and voices guiding my decisions.
But Heavenly Sword, DmC, and Enslaved were also all solid action games. I've never played a NT game where I thought the combat was BAD.
Not just in-engine. Running in real-time.
And there are several NT games I think are superior to many of ND's games. It's not a competition either; it's comparing apples to oranges.
Just checked your post history. I'll stop posting now. I forgot that Ninja Theory is now own my MS. lol
Of course everything in engine is in real time. For that exact reason wait until you see real gameplay to decide if this game is so good or not.
Hellblade 1 was a good game but with lots of problems in the gameplay department.
They already have multiple times tbh. Heavenly Sword's cinematics had more convincing characters than UC1. Hellblade has a more convincing character than the characters in both UC4 and LL. Lmao at the idea that the studio that arrived first at the performance capture at a video game party isn't comparable to the studio that was LTTP.
Uh no, there's a very explicit difference between something like this and something like what ND used to o with cinematics and what DICE does with cinematics.
That's actually not true. In-engine does not mean real-time. A lot of pre-rendered scenes are made in-engine but not running in real-time.
And I know it's subjective, but I played Hellblade for the first time only last week (so good timing on that sequel announcement) and I never had any problems with the gameplay. It worked very well and by the end of it I really understood a lot of the nuance of the combat, especially using headphones to have the voices alert you to your next move.
I also enjoyed how Hellblade's "levels" tried so many interesting mechanics to keep things fresh, from the hallucination puzzle chases to the audio search in the dark to creating the invisible bridge to the labyrinth of repeating tunnels to the fire-running sections... It didn't overstay its welcome either and I enjoyed it immensely.
Certainly room for improvement, but nothing in that game was "bad" in my experience.
What game currently released looks like this in realtime?
Aka the studio that has raised the bar for what can be done for not just cinematics in game but performance capture in general for two gens in a row...
Detroit looks much, much better than the Sorcerer tech demo. So yeah.
That's my main problem.. is a NT game so I don't have such a high hopes because of that. I liked Hellblade 1 for what it is but it has many many flaws.
Its NINJA THEORY and next gen, plus its a cutscene we haven't seen many other next gen games either.
It would be impressive if it didn't looked good, current gen games already look amazing imo so im not surprised new games can look this good
Ninja Theory likes story heavy games with impressive tech, for fans this is heaven its just a bit niche compared to say, what Naughty Dog will do on PS5, or any of the Sony studios, then everyone will be hype
I don't even know why people are comparing a current gen game(TLOU2) with a next-gen game. Wait for sony to release an in-engine or gameplay video of a first party next-gen game and then compare. That's all. So far, Hellblade 2 is all we got, and it's currently the best looking.
I would argue NT's output is a little more diverse than that. Enslaved were the closest thing to Uncharted they ever did, in terms of structure at least, but the combat was way more varied. They also dabbled with more combat focused games like Heavenly Sword and DmC and are now making both a competitive, hero based hack and slash (Bleeding Edge) while also showing what seems like a greatly expanded sequel to Hellblade (what with there being an army with Senua, could this mean a return to grander scale combat like Heavenly Sword?). Fightback was a fun beat'em up for mobile, too.
This thread is about visuals. Specifically the animation. Unless the 'many many flaws' you cite are about the visuals or animation, it's irrelevant to this discussion.
hellblade was objectively one of the most beautiful games this gen upon release, so it would be strange if anyone didn't have high hopes for the sequel's visuals.
In-engine means exactly what it implies, it's not deceptive. This is the fidelity you can expect during real-time cutscenes, which isn't worlds apart from gameplay.
My hope is that the first game's weaknesses (weak, repetitive puzzles being the biggest offender) were a result of a small budget. I'm excited to find out, and it's not like the price of entry will be high.
I agree with that.. Hellblade was amazing on the visual and artistic department.. but combat animations and gameplay didn't click for me at all.
This animations discussion is for in engine stuff only or for everything related to the game like actual gameplay? maybe I didn't understand that
If it's moving and it's a game, it's animation. Motion capture doesn't simply get translated into perfect movement without a whole lot of work from animators.
The actual combat animations are really good when you get the rhythm of battles.
thats true, i guess i was thinking mostly about Hellblade were gameplay is not the main focus