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Nintendo and Nvidia have a working GC/Wii emulator for Tegra X1
- Thread starter dragonbane
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I'm not that tech savvy but I've eaten up most Switch vs Shield comparisons. Correct me if I'm wrong here but as I understand it, the downclocks Switch has matches the specs that Shield usually hits eventually when running, as higher clocks aren't stable. Thus it's more a thing about stability vs peak performance.
Ah yes, it will be interesting to see how this game will be modified.
That's true, I'm sure in a dedicated OS Nintendo can optimize it. Let's hope they do use it for the Switch though.
Can't the use the Joycon's gyroscope to emulate the IR pointer? It works fine in World of Goo. Admittedly not as good as IR with a real Wii Remote, but fine.
Maybe this is why Donkey Kong Country Returns isn't included with the Tropical Freeze port. Would make sense if it's a VC title.
This is horrible business to give Gamecube games. I could never see that.
If we get a proper VC I see no reason not to include GCN on it. Depends on how Nintendo decides to do moving forward tho.
It wouldn't say it works fine. It functions but it desyncs constantly. I can't see Nintendo going with this kind of input. Even Wii Motion Plus pointing uses the sensor bar for calibration.
Some games made use of the camera itself. For example some Wario Ware Smooth Move games ask you to cover the camera and then uncover it.
I highly doubted that an official Wii/GC emulator would exist for the Shield, but here we are. There isn't any really to put this possibility off the table at this point.
Yeah, once the Shield thing happened, I figured as much. Nintendo is always looking into this type of stuff, while pretending emulation is the devil. Luckily, the GC and Wii have been so easy to emulate.
Good find, OP.
Good find, OP.
On Wii U NES games are $5, SNES $8, N64 $10 and Wii $20. I imagine GC games would be $15 then.
I would guess they charge 19 dollar/euro like for Wii games on Wii U (Xenoblade etc.). The question is if they will ever release it or want to make HD ports. Like Sony.
You're underestimating Kimishima and the pull of Gamecube games. Nintendo knows fans have been demanding Gamecube games. Also, Kimishima goes for the profits. Gamecube will definitely be $20 at the minimum.
Nice find.
I'll be even more interested when said GC games show up for purchase on switch's shop.
I'll be even more interested when said GC games show up for purchase on switch's shop.
I honestly think they're just going to simulate the pointer using the right joy-con's gyroscope. 2DBoy has done this on Switch and the results are pretty much perfect.
2018: Game Boy Classic
2019: N64 Classic and GC/Wii VC
2020: Switch Pro
2021: GC Classic
2022: Wii Classic
2023: Wii U 2 "you thought it was over" edition
2019: N64 Classic and GC/Wii VC
2020: Switch Pro
2021: GC Classic
2022: Wii Classic
2023: Wii U 2 "you thought it was over" edition
Yes. Going by the clockspeed DF quoted (1050MHz), the Nvidia shield is capable of running at up to double the speed. Of course, the device is known to thermal throttle, so it's probably not actually that big a gap, but still, it does mean that just because something runs on the Shield doesn't automatically mean it'll run the same on the Switch.
That said, there was the curious Foxcon leak from late 2016 (which is seemingly legit given how much they got right) that claimed that the unit he saw running at speeds of 1.9GHz in a QA stress test with no issues. If there's any truth to this, it could be possible that Nintendo could patch in an alternate power profile for the system specifically for GC/Wii emulation. Since emulation is far more dependant on CPU performance than GPU, increasing CPU speed whilst down clocking the GPU could be an effective solution to keep power draw in check if the higher CPU speeds are required.
I wonder if it's using a modified iso. This is the GC version right, but I thought that version didn't originally support widesceen. Plus it would seem they changed the on screen button prompts.
Maybe those are just features of the emulator, with hacks (on a per game basis?) for video output and replacement HUD assets.
It's being used in a Nintendo release. My guess, as other suggested, is that they had Nvidia engineers working on it in partnership with Nintendo.
Maybe those are just features of the emulator, with hacks (on a per game basis?) for video output and replacement HUD assets.
It's being used in a Nintendo release. My guess, as other suggested, is that they had Nvidia engineers working on it in partnership with Nintendo.
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TP runs at 1080p on the Shield
The hardware is identical. Yeah the OS layer is different but much of this emulation code could be be easily re-used on the Switch. It could be done in very little time and would perform just as well, probably even better since no Android
Resolution got bumped to 1080p. They enabled widescreen too and replaced the HUD. Otherwise very little changes
There is none, but if Nintendo have allowed Nvidia to use these games without getting the emulators back in return they are idiots beyond our wildest dreams
I think, if and when Virtual Console finally happens on Switch, we'll see Joy-Cons designed specifically to emulate Gamecube controllers, as well as Wiimote Plus support or a controller or Joy-Con that mimics that functionality.
According to Anandtech, the Shield TV does not suffer from any thermal throttling, so you can expect the CPU always running at 2GHz, that doubles Switch's clock speed.
Also, the Shield TV has 4 additional lower power ARM cores that Switch has disabled.
I remember when the Switch was announced someone made a picture of the two joycons looking like a Gamecube controller.
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Only the GPU is heavily underclocked which plays a much smaller part in emulation than the CPU. Even if so, without the Android layer some resources are freed up as well. There is no way this emulator wouldn't perform very well on the Switch too.
Didn't find anything from Dolphin in there. Probably just the same emulation shortcuts (no proper memory management)
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It still amazes me the number of people on ERA that thinks Nintendo is going to pass up the chance to resell their entire back catalogue to us again on their hot new platform which contains an entire new generation of players that barely know their older games past Wii. It's a question of if, not when folks.
...and when that happens I'm emptying my wallet for every damn title.
...and when that happens I'm emptying my wallet for every damn title.
This is very interesting. I'll buy Skies of Arcadia and Monkey Ball for sure. Hell even Sonic Adventure 2 battle could work lol
Not true. Shield TV CPU runs at 2GHz, Switch CPU runs at 1GHz.
Again, you are basing everything on assumptions and the title is just misleading.
yea which is why I'm not surprised a Wii emulator is working on the Switch already. Kinda feel it will be one of the things with the online server. Access to virtual console games (form NES to Wii).