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Nintendo/Bamco cropped their own sprite out of a fan sprite sheet for a spirit in SSBU; contains a few pixels of fanmade content from the poor crop
- Thread starter Atheerios
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Sadly, no. Even people like Giant Bomb still believe this, judging from one of their recent Bombcasts.
What confuses me is, they took a sprite they own from a fan sprite sheet, but doesn't that mean they had some reference to go off of? Unless it was just a coincidence they didn't take a fan made sprite. So they possibly had a reference, but not a high enough quality one to pull from so instead relied on the online version? That's just weird.
fixed for accuracy
Also, based on what you are saying here, I think maybe you don't know how intellectual property works. They are legally allowed to use, without permission or acknowledgement, any and all art of their Intellectual Property that has been publicly posted online. Without exception.
It's not in ownership limbo at all. Copyright gives you several exclusive rights, one of which is the right to make derivative works of your copyrighted work. The fan Sprite is a derivative work of the original and not particularly transformative. It's an infringement, as far as I'm concerned. As is the reposting of copyrighted material (the original sprites), because duplication is smithery exclusive right of the copyright owner. There's a great case involving a guy who wrote a script for Rocky 4, unsolicited, if you want some precedent on that.
You haven't cited one actual precedent. News stories about companies taking things down to avoid potential legal hassles is not precedential.
You should read more cartoons about copyright law, I think.
Again, you have yet to cite a precedent.
And the differences isolated:Here's a better comparison (posted by the same RandomTalkingBush )
Note that the "Spirit" also has a 4*4 non-pixel aligned slight decoloration in the pink area of the gun that is NOT present either in the original nor the Devianart sprite. It might be a mistake with a lighter brush added either by Bandai Namco or RandomTalkingBrush (waiting their confirmation).
- Left: Smash "Spirit" without transparency.
- Middle: Mother 3 translated ROM in-game-screenshot.
- Right: Devianart spritesheet with from left-to-right in-game overworld sprite, custom overworld sprite and in-game battle sprite (with mistake areas circled).
So, let's discuss the copyright status of those 40 (*5*5) pixels.
I care about fun trivia
I get your point and yes, its embarassing
Wow at people dismissing this out of hand as it being nothing. Not only did they just google the sprite and pulled the first one that isolated the sprite (which means they didn't either have the sprites themselves or bother ripping them) but that they poorly cropped an edit and accidentally included a custom sprite with it is just hilarious.
And while yes they weren't using NES roms ripped by the community, their attitude toward archivism and emulation is crap and this, in a way, is another hypocrisy of theirs. Without unofficial emulation, that sprite would have never been available for them to simply google, copy and paste.
And while yes they weren't using NES roms ripped by the community, their attitude toward archivism and emulation is crap and this, in a way, is another hypocrisy of theirs. Without unofficial emulation, that sprite would have never been available for them to simply google, copy and paste.
Try asking a file of a 12 year old project to a subsidiary (which doesn't exist anymore) of a partner company of your company. It might take a few weeks/month, if any.
Archiving is a serious issue in Japanese video game industry and Nintendo isn't immune to that but let's not pretend that files are available right away all the time.
They properly didn't lost them, somebody was just lazy and googled the sprit.
Lol, there's zero evidence they lost the files. There is a massive amount of spirits, so it was probably a better use of their time to find the sprite on google.
Every time this thread rises to the top, I hope something more has come up to justify being something worth noting. Nothing could be less of a story than this lol. This is the epitome of gamers looking for a controversy where there isn't one.
I think the majority of this thread is just everyone laughing and commenting about the ridiculousness started by the poor thread title and it has just snowballed.... with the exception of a sandwich and armchair lawyer trying to make it out to be much more than it is.
On topic, im more interested in who took the time to go through all the assets of this game and start removing alpha channels. Seems like a lot of effort for something with really no payoff
I was wondering how this got to seven pages after the sandwich bowed out. Did not expect the armchair lawyer.
And to add to this: he might not be a lawyer, but he adds to the topic. No need to be this condescending you know.
From what I gather.. the "other sprite" isn't even visible in the game, right? I assume that you're just seeing what is shown on the left? It's a massive stretch to claim they have someone else's art in the game if you can't even see it!
What is my post doing here on this thread? o_ô
And to add to this: he might not be a lawyer, but he adds to the topic. No need to be this condescending you know.
Lmao I was really confused when I was reading this why all the posts were from December last year, the last page explained it all though. Hooray it was fixed, though!
The origin of the image shown in the tweet is literally in the replies of the tweet OP quoted in his post back in December 2018, aka. day one: