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Nintendo bans some Splatoon 2 players who hacked in Octolings and used them online
- Thread starter Pablo Mesa
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3DS took years to break into like 3 years
Wii only reason was cause it was almost 1:1 copy of Gamecube with exploits and everything, WiiU took over a year at best, even ripping the game from the CDs took months.
Switch software wise after 5.0.0 proved to be an stronghold, only reason Switch is currently vulnerable is a fault in Nvidia's Chip itself, but a new version of the chip without that flaw is likely to hit the market inside the Switch soon.
the only other reason is the usual Demand and Infinite Monkey Theory;
Demand: Everyone and their mother wants Nintendo to be hacked, whether be homebrew or piracy but they want it hacked. so this demand attracts hackers that want to bath in popularity, E-glory and some patreon bucks. Go to any forum dedicated to it, the amount of thread of discussion about hacking PS or XB pales next to those about hacking 3DS/ Switch
this influx of hackers creates and infinitey monkey theorem scenario, as the hacking is not the job of 1 wonder hacker but the result of the collectiveness of all em working together 1 exploit at the time step by step till they find a successful entry point.
I don't buy the slippery slopeness of it. Making your character able to be an octoling seems to be in largely the same spirit as the mod community on PC, which is usually similarly benign and harmless. This isn't about cheaters, though. This isn't about banning people who hacked their game to gain a competitive advantage and/or disrupt others' play experience.
I'm just surprised at the venom.
Splatoon 2 hacking also includes altering weapon stats for broken advantage. There was a whole thing about it a week or two ago.
This may be a mild case, but you have to take a zero tolerance approach with this shit.
If you wanna hack your Switch (or any other console), more power to you, I respect the scene and the hustle, but you don't get to play in my playground.
They are basically playing with a different skin, but it hasn't been released yet.
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public execution display. nothing more, nothing less, why wait for a problem to wide spread and its know to actually hurt users in the past?
I'm guessing people are just happy to see Nintendo actually do something about it, all their home consoles have been rife with hackers.
Thank you. So, banning them from the game seems appropriate but a console ban feels a bit over the top. Though if they're doing it in this game they'd likely try again on another one.
If it doesn't effect other players, I tend towards leniency. Once it crosses that line, no remorse.
I'm not disagreeing with you, they should totally be banned for that. People in this thread are taking it a step further and saying any hackers should have their consoles completely screwed over, which is a little overkill.
Hopefully then we'll also see reports (unless we already have?) of those who hack to gain an advantage getting hit with ban hammers.
I mean basically if they already hacked the console, it's compromised through and through. Don't let them into the game they hacked. You don't break into a store to wear the clothes and expect to be let off with a small charge and you can go into the store again. You're gonna get banned from that store
Hacking Octolings into Splatoon 1 literally crashed the game in the lobbies of players that those hacked characters appeared in. The game was not designed for Octolings to be playable and hacking Splatoon 2 to do the same before the Octo Expansion is out just runs the same risks. It's a pointless, selfish, idiotic means of playing an Octoling and the more of these hackers that get banned, the better. Every single one of them can get bent.
Yep, ban them. No room for cheaters in online play. It's good to see Nintendo finally taking this seriously.
Keep in mind Splatoon has kind of a history of people hacking/cheating and getting away with it in the first game due to a combination of Nintendo seemingly not caring that much because the Wii U was in its last months of life and I think also people found a way to get around Nintendo's bans anyway. It's just nice to see that they're actually going to be super strict this time.
People we're wondering what they were going to do about it, here you go.
Ban em outright from all online stuff, updates and everything. They knew exactly what they were doing.
Ban em outright from all online stuff, updates and everything. They knew exactly what they were doing.
The difference is with PC, you are on an open platform often with official mod support. Here you know someone broke into a closed off systems to change things, without any way to say hey only pair me with legit users because it should be assumed everyone is legit. When code gets changed you never know what unintended effects it will have on yourself or other users, which could potentially lead to someone's game getting bricked. On PC if something bricks people with know how can usually fix it, here if someone's game gets bricked they are usually out of luck. The game will have official Octoling support in a month, so they could have waited like everyone else. Instead this is basically theft, so while it might come out as a bit hyperbolic in a few instances, I don't think anything being said is unreasonable.
I don't get why people think console bans are too harsh or leniency being a good method. Those people hacked their consoles and decided to take it a step further by hacking in DLC that hasn't yet been released. There is no line that should be drawn.
No mercy. Anyone who brings a hacked console online should get it at minimum disabled from ever using any online service again.
Especially if they are charging for access to it soon, I want some hardcore policing on cheaters and hackers.
It's both. You unlock being able to play as an Octoling in multiplayer after beating the SP part.
Account ban means nothing when you can just create a new one and continue your misdeed.
At least with paid online it's going to be more significant.
It actually reads slightly dystopian future to me.
You have selected slow and horrible.
Maybe it's just a signature automatically placed on all outgoing emails from that account?
Yeah, it's likely that all user facing messages start with "Thank you for using Nintendo Switch." since Nintendo, if nothing else, is polite like that. The content of the message can then change the tone of that drastically.
I am glad that Nintendo seems to be on top of things with this, though. It is impossible to stop all cheats and hacks, but if they want money for the online, they have to make a show of trying. And this right here is a good omen.
You can play as a Octoling online with the expansion and there are few gears too.
I'll be honest, I'm happy to see any kind of banning.
In my experience, which is probably pretty common, hackers just ruined online experiences for me. From immersion, to functionality, to gaining competitive edges, to even corrupting save data (out-right breaking it, to enhancing it to the point of not having fun with the game, forcing a restart).
Now, if it was agreed upon before the game starts (99% never the case), then fine, I can take precautions. But this is barely, hardly, even the case. Instead, the hacks are put in all behind the game/lobby/rooms back, just for them to find out later, pissing every one off in the process. Ultimately, it's a waste of everyone's time, except the hacker (mission accomplished).
People value things differently. If they want to play Splatoon 2 and splat squids, that's what they are expecting. If they see anything else other than a squid...what else is to come? We have many years to draw upon as to what a hacker can do to a game lobby, and I do not think people (ERA in this instance), or Nintendo, want to chance that. Too many bad memories to draw upon at this point.
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older consoles have proved that account banned can eventually be "fixed", Console banning is practically impossible as the ID is unique and burn into the machine, then compared to a finite numbe of IDS in Nintendo servers. so is not like they can find the seed and create an ID generator. even if they do the "new" ID wont be in Nintendo Database so will still be null
Ban em all. I haven't played Splatoon 2 before. Does the game have a well suited reporting feature?
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dont by pre-owned consoles??? how big is that market anyway, I always thought rule of thumb is not buying second hand hardware cause defects/ banned/ stolen.
