Nintendo Direct: E3 2019 |OT| Redacted by Request of Nintendo’s Legal Team

Moltres006

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Meh, their games no longer have any challenge in them whatsoever. I never felt like I was stuck in LM2 and it took me a handful of tries to beat the "final gauntlet" in Odyssey. Every dungeon and puzzle shrine in Zelda treated you like it was your first. The LM3 Gooigi sections looked like puzzles intended for babies to solve. In the Fire Emblem clips all they show is anime garbage instead of actual gameplay because they know their audience. Animal Crossing is a franchise that has no gameplay whatsoever and was the premier 1st party game they showcased in the Direct. I don't need to explain how much of a joke Kirby and Yoshi games are these days. This is the harsh reality. No, Nintendo is no longer "about gameplay", those times are long gone. The Octo Expansion is the only thing that offers a decent amount of challenge and mechanical involvment. Have people here forgotten about games like Tropical Freeze? Heck, even Nintendo Land felt almost impossible to 100%, but I did it after 120 hours of enduring frustration and it felt so good. Getting Perfect Score in all of the Rhythm Heaven DS minigames was such an incredibly satisfying gameplay experience. That Nintendo is gone, and noone cares.
If they didnt care about gameplay then why are Astral chain, NMH3 or daemon x machina exclusives?
And about fire emblem, maybe us fans just want to learn a bit more about story and confirm If the leak is true. I'm sure we'll see more gameplay today or tomorrow during the treehouse.
 

zakatana

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I said a few weeks before that Astral Chain was low key my most anticipated game of the year. I really liked what I saw yesterday, I hope that this and Bayonetta won't be the last collaboration of Nintendo with Platinum; specifically, daddy needs his Viewtiful Joe 3. Those games may not sell very well, but I'm sure that they do contribute a lot in the image of a console, and hence indirectly bring more sales.
Same goes for NHM, those are important game to have (and to have as exclusives even more, when most 3rd parties still skip the Switch).
 

Moltres006

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I see. Yeah, the September Direct definitely was a lot beter than the E3 one last year. I think you're right about at least Wolfenstein (although I believe it did leak as a listing right after the unveiling at E3). Doom Eternal was announced in August iirc, so you're right, there.

We'll see how the rest of this year shapes out. We have a ton to look forward to this year as opposed to last year, so that makes things a lot more relaxed.
Astral chain will be out by then so I hope we see some bayo 3 gameplay.
Its kinda weird how we've only seen one platinum games title despite them saying they'll be making multiple announcements this year.

 

weekev

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So does this mean that in 2021 we are gonna have Metroid Prime 4, BOTW2, Bayonetta 3 and Pikmin 4?
 

Timppis

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Meh, their games no longer have any challenge in them whatsoever. I never felt like I was stuck in LM2 and it took me a handful of tries to beat the "final gauntlet" in Odyssey. Every dungeon and puzzle shrine in Zelda treated you like it was your first. The LM3 Gooigi sections looked like puzzles intended for babies to solve. In the Fire Emblem clips all they show is anime garbage instead of actual gameplay because they know their audience. Animal Crossing is a franchise that has no gameplay whatsoever and was the premier 1st party game they showcased in the Direct. I don't need to explain how much of a joke Kirby and Yoshi games are these days. This is the harsh reality. No, Nintendo is no longer "about gameplay", those times are long gone. The Octo Expansion is the only thing that offers a decent amount of challenge and mechanical involvment. Have people here forgotten about games like Tropical Freeze? Heck, even Nintendo Land felt almost impossible to 100%, but I did it after 120 hours of enduring frustration and it felt so good. Getting Perfect Score in all of the Rhythm Heaven DS minigames was such an incredibly satisfying gameplay experience. That Nintendo is gone, and noone cares.
Super Mario games have never been hard.

Breathe of the Wild was probably the most difficult Zelda to beat to date if you consider the overall difficulty level and not individual frustrating dungeons.

Animal Crossing has TONS of gameplay. The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it less of a game.

LM3 Gameplay looks absolutely stunning.

Calling Fire Emblem anime carbage pretty much sums up your post, you don't like something, ergo carbage.

Tropical Freeze was a masterpiece. Absolute gem. Switch hasn't had anything by Nintendo like that... except of course Tropical Freeze.
 

MushroomSamba

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Oct 26, 2017
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I’m honestly absolutely baffled, Pokemon sword and shield looks legit bad, uninspired and too similiar. Yet I feel these games don’t get the scrutiny every other game gets, we have threads breaking down how a game is garbage because the main characters hair is too dithered, yet there is nothing they are doing in this that seems at all redeemable and yet people are hyped.

I’d be fine if it was not the highest grossing franchise of all time, but its inexcusable at this point. I love love Pokemon, it just bums me out that we are still stuck in the same formula.

Same sounds, same transitions and cameras, same type of formula, graphically/artistically very uninspired, animation very unappealing. I was just hoping for the Breath of the Wild pokemon moment...

I feel like I’m crazy for not being happy with it.
While I'm still very excited for the game (it's a rare day-1'er for me), I do agree the graphics are fairly underwhelming, at least from what I've seen in the wild area. The textures looks especially bad and something about the character facial animations (particularly fans cheering in the stands during gym battles) feel creepily off.

I guess the reason there isn't exactly an uproar about this (and the reason I'm still excited for it anyway, despite the graphics) is that those components never really meant all that much to me given what I've been used to on the GB-GBA-DS games (I haven't played the 3DS ones). I just want another Pokemon adventure.
 

Faxeo

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guys I know it's a stupid question but is Animal Crossing new horizons a game of the main series? has this been confirmed? Because I heard someone who thinks otherwise
 

Dekuman

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#1 on trending 2.6 million views on the Nintendo main channel vs. 1.4 for all of last year's direct with 12 months to accumulate views


Big win for them id say
 

Champion

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Do we know which games will be shown in Treehouse Live today?
So at the very least though, would good visuals, sound and animation ruin that in anyway? Even at the most basic of levels?

Just cannot understand how they seemingly get a free pass, where if it was any other title there would be a petition by now for them to fix it.

And my apologies if I sound like I’m descrediting peoples happiness, I guess I’m legitimately etly trying to understand.
In most cases I am not one to turn down additional/better features in a game. However what you're suggesting clearly isn't something the developer or the fanbase holds in high regard since it hasn't happened and the games are still selling like crazy.
 

Soulsis

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Oct 25, 2017
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My predictions on 2020-2021 releases:

2020:
SPRING- Animal Crossing (confirmed)
SPRING - Mario Golf (September Direct reveal)
FALL - Bayonetta 3 (will be revealed in September or during VGA)
FALL - Pikmin 4 (March reveal)
WINTER- Super Mario Odyssey 2 (revealed during VGA)

2021:
SPRING - Mario Kart 9
SUMMER - Paper Mario
SUMMER - Xenoblade Sequel
FALL - Breath of the Wild 2
WINTER - Metroid Prime 3

2021 gonna be lit
 

Procheno

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Games/things showcased in the direct:

Dragon Quest x Smash announcement trailer
Dragon Quest 11S Definitive Edition release date trailer
Luigi's Mansion 3 gameplay trailer
The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance Tactics announcement trailer
Link's Awakening Remake gameplay/release date trailer
Trials of Mana remake announcement trailer
Collection of Mana announcement trailer
The Witcher 3 Switch announcement trailer
Fire Emblem: Three Houses story trailer
Resident Evil 5+6 Switch announcement trailer
No More Heroes 3 announcement trailer
Contra Rogue Corps announcement trailer
Contra Anniversary Collection announcement
Daemon X Machina release date announcement trailer
Panzer Dragoon remake announcement trailer
Pokemon S&S gameplay snippet
Astral Chain story trailer
Empire of Sin announcement trailer
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 trailer
Cadence of Hyrule release date announcement trailer
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games announcement trailer
Animal Crossing New Horizons reveal/release date trailer
Spyro Reignited Trilogy Switch announcement snippet
The Sinking City Switch announcement snippet
Alien Isolation Switch announcement snippet
New Super Lucky's Tale announcement/switch announcement snippet(?)
Dauntless Switch announcement snippet
Banjo Kazooie x Smash announcement trailer
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 announcement trailer

I'd say that was a pretty dang good showcase guys. Mix of first party, third party, indies, mulitplats and exclusives

Combined with other E3 announcements prior:

Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Minecraft Dungeons
Just Dance 2020
Gods and Monsters
Elder Scrolls Blades
Final Fantasy 8 remaster

This is probably the most prominent third party showcase Nintendo has ever had in a decade
 

Phendrift

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I am afraid that we might get a comparatively weak September Direct since they already got Animal Crossing for March and teased the next 3D Zelda. Plus, it would be the fourth good Direct in a row and we all know that good things don‘t last. :p I wouldn‘t be surprised if they focus on remasters/ports like Metroid Prime Trilogy and Pikmin 3 as far as first-party announcements go.
Metroid 5 should be the big finisher there
 

Momo

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I'm sad at no Xenoblade news of any kind.
It’s sad, but to be fair, we just got a game last year through Torna. They began recruiting for the Xenoblade team in October 2018. I imagine they’re fairly early in development of the next game at this point. There was a recent interview with Takahashi saying that his games generally take 2.5-3 years to develop. I think the earliest we’ll see anything is in the 2020 Fall Direct or the 2021 January-February Direct.
 

nocdaes

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I'm sad at no Xenoblade news of any kind.
Fair.

Spare a thought for the Retro fans though...

And everyone that wants a decent online service...

And anyone that wants a big single player game this year, that they haven't already played before...

*sigh*

Oh and Witcher 3 is cool and all, but I seriously hope Nintendo didn't bend over backwards for it, because the elephant in the room is that GTA V was the one to bend over backwards for...
 
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Harald23

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Dec 21, 2017
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Wow, Angry Joe's reaction was fucking terrible lol
To me it seems a reaction made just for the clicks.

Regardless of how the presentation was, you can tell they were so uninterested even before the Direct started, Nintendo could have announced Half Life 3 and they would have been unimpressed anyway, so why are you even watching it besides clicks?

I sense also a bit of prejudice on Nintendo from certain channel, to the point reaction would have been far more positive to some of the announcement in the Direct but because they were coming from Nintendo they have to keep that sad face all the time... idk why, if i have to guess probably Nintendo of Japan's strictness on copyright.

I'm sad at no Xenoblade news of any kind.
Takahashi gave an update on a recent interview: next Monolith Soft project has been in development (not Zelda) for 10 months, map is already done and all that comes from it, estimated dev time: 3 years, so it should be ready in 2021.
 

Raccoon

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The best things about this direct for me were

1. Nintendo announced nothing first party for 2020
2. Nintendo announced barely anything for q4 2019

I'm confident we're getting a shitload more stuff throughout the year and i couldnt be happier
Are you sure? Animal Crossing is 2020, and Q4 has Pokémon and (presumably) Luigi’s Mansion.
 

ShinUltima

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Oct 30, 2017
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re: Xenoblade news

Thanks for the replies. Though to be more specific, what I was really looking for was any kind of news about a XCX port on the Switch, if not an update/sequel. Yeah, I know, "too expensive" and all that, but I was kinda hoping that things might be different now, somehow. I'm itching to play it again from the beginning and was holding out that I might get to play it on newer hardware. But I guess I'll have to fire up the ol' Wii U gamepad to play it.
 
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Metroid 5 should be the big finisher there
I like the way you think. With a release in mid-2020?

It‘s gonna be interesting to see what else they will show/tease from their 2020 lineup. Animal Crossing will hopefully not suffer another delay and Bayo 3 should also be ready, barring any development issues. Pokémon is most likely having an off year and I don't think that the next Zelda will make 2020. 3D Mario and Kirby are definitely due for another entry next year, however.
 

Momo

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Takahashi gave an update on a recent interview: next Monolith Soft project has been in development (not Zelda) for 10 months, map is already done and all that comes from it, estimated dev time: 3 years, so it should be ready in 2021.
This isn’t true btw. All of this was done through Google Translate. In the interview, Takahashi described the general process of game development at Monolith Soft. Here is the full translation by Lugalbanda:

The interviewer asks how Takahashi comes up with the plot, and he says:

Takahashi: When it’s still on paper, I say “there’s a world like this, with characters like this,” and that’s all I’ve decided on. After that, I come up with a basic storyline and say “These are the kinds of things we’re doing for this script,” and that’s what I tell my staff… After that, the planners, game designers and programmers group together and head to their desks to create a game flow. If there’s a problem, we get feedback, fix the plot, tidy up the characters, and we get down to the nitty-gritty of the script once all of that game progression is set into stone.

Interviewer: And how long would you say it’s taken at that point?

Takahashi: About eight to ten months. By that point, we know what we need to make and have the proper environment to do so, and then we start making all the assets, and we’re at the 2.5~3 year mark.
More in the link below:
 

Phendrift

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I like the way you think. With a release in mid-2020?

It‘s gonna be interesting to see what else they will show/tease from their 2020 lineup. Animal Crossing will hopefully not suffer another delay and Bayo 3 should also be ready, barring any development issues. Pokémon is most likely having an off year and I don't think that the next Zelda will make 2020. 3D Mario and Kirby are definitely due for another entry next year, however.
hmmm.

It’d definitely be only early 2020 stuff. If 3D Mario (likely an Odyssey sequel) was coming early 2020, I think it would’ve been shown in yesterday’s Direct. Similar to Galaxy 2 reveal to release timeframe. I can see it late next year though, but unlike you I also see Zelda as late next year.

Metroid 5 seems ripe for a general non-E3 direct opener or closer though. We had that insider who teased SR also tease that too about a couple years ago. It should be ready to be shown off soon and I can see it making that date.

As for Bayo 3, hopefully the next general direct is after August 30th then it’s fair game. I can’t see it not being 2020. Definitely late though. I only don’t expect it right now because of Astral Chain and fully believe that game is in a showable, progressed state.

Pokémon is off next year definitely I agree, Kirby could be up but I’d prefer they take their time and really do something different with that one. Maybe we’ll finally see Pikmin.

And then there’s Prime Trilogy but I don’t even wanna begin on that, I feel like it’s cursed
 

Harald23

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This isn’t true btw. All of this was done through Google Translate. In the interview, Takahashi described the general process of game development at Monolith Soft. Here is the full translation by Lugalbanda:



More in the link below:
Oh okay i read that interview through Google Translate too haha
 

MicH

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Just remembered that we didn't see Game Freak's Town at all. I was actually pretty excited to hear more about it so that's a bummer.
 

skittzo0413

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Just remembered that we didn't see Game Freak's Town at all. I was actually pretty excited to hear more about it so that's a bummer.
It's not a Nintendo first party game, they're not even publishing it. I'm sure Game Freak will show off more when they feel ready to. Nintendo rarely talks about previously announced third party games in Directs (or especially E3).
 

Momo

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Oh okay i read that interview through Google Translate too haha
I do the same thing too, honestly haha. It’s always best to wait until someone can provide an accurate translation.

That being said, the good news is that it’s already been 8 months since the project began. Actually, it may be even further along in development since Takahashi could’ve even started brainstorming ideas before Torna came out. Torna came out 9 months after XC2, so technically the whole 8-10 months thing might’ve started before Takahashi posted the recruitment drive for his team in October 2018.
 

Psyborg

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An absolutely stellar E3 showing but one thing I noticed...perhaps I missing something but did Nintendo not announce anything new from them at all except BOTW2?

I guess they had so much to show from known quantities (plus tons of third party stuff) that they didn't need to announce new things. That definitely makes for a unique Nintendo E3 and makes me wonder what they are cooking up behind the scenes.
 
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hmmm.

It’d definitely be only early 2020 stuff. If 3D Mario (likely an Odyssey sequel) was coming early 2020, I think it would’ve been shown in yesterday’s Direct. Similar to Galaxy 2 reveal to release timeframe. I can see it late next year though, but unlike you I also see Zelda as late next year.
I think that their internal date for Zelda is 2020 as well and it would explain Zell's hint. But as I've said before, I totally expect it to be delayed in true Zelda fashion. Definitely want it for next year though. BotW2 and Odyssey2 for the holidays would be quite something and I am sure that they're going to set them apart from their predecessors.

Metroid 5 seems ripe for a general non-E3 direct opener or closer though. We had that insider who teased SR also tease that too about a couple years ago. It should be ready to be shown off soon and I can see it making that date.
Yeah, definitely agree with you there. My only concern so far has been that we don't really know who's been working on it. MercurySteam makes a lot of sense but they've been mostly tied up with Spacelords per Álvarez.

As for Bayo 3, hopefully the next general direct is after August 30th then it’s fair game. I can’t see it not being 2020. Definitely late though. I only don’t expect it right now because of Astral Chain and fully believe that game is in a showable, progressed state.
Last three Fall Directs have all been in September, last two even on the same exact date and I don't see that changing. Date seems to work for them.

Pokémon is off next year definitely I agree, Kirby could be up but I’d prefer they take their time and really do something different with that one. Maybe we’ll finally see Pikmin.
Kirby on Switch is interesting because they've been way more conservative on the Switch. During the 3DS era we got several spun-off mini games in-between. Maybe they are pouring more time and care into the next one.
 

Tron1

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Really disappointed I didn’t get a release date for bulletstorm or Grid. The only two games that concern me right now.
 

Archduke Kong

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And anyone that wants a big single player game this year, that they haven't already played before...

*sigh*

Oh and Witcher 3 is cool and all, but I seriously hope Nintendo didn't bend over backwards for it, because the elephant in the room is that GTA V was the one to bend over backwards for...
I mean, Pokemon, Luigi's Mansion, Daemon x Machina, Fire Emblem and Astral Chain are all single player (albeit some with co-op options but it really looks like it's an option and not a forced mechanic). I realize besides maybe Pokemon, none of them are Oddysey/BotW tier but they all cover widely different genres (Turn based RPG/puzzle-adventure/Mech shooter/strategy/action). If anything, there doesn't seem to be anything that covers solely multiplayer. Mario Maker and Ultimate Alliance, kind of, but those seem to straddle the line. Compared to last year, this year seems REALLY single player focused.

As for Witcher, I believe it's been confirmed that it's using 32GB cartridges for the physical edition so I have a sneaking suspicion they bent backwards for it. However, I feel like that might bode well for the future of GTA V, if they understand what a get that would be. Here's hoping (even if it's not a game I plan on getting).
 

mmmmmm6

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I’m honestly absolutely baffled, Pokemon sword and shield looks legit bad, uninspired and too similiar. Yet I feel these games don’t get the scrutiny every other game gets, we have threads breaking down how a game is garbage because the main characters hair is too dithered, yet there is nothing they are doing in this that seems at all redeemable and yet people are hyped.

I’d be fine if it was not the highest grossing franchise of all time, but its inexcusable at this point. I love love Pokemon, it just bums me out that we are still stuck in the same formula.

Same sounds, same transitions and cameras, same type of formula, graphically/artistically very uninspired, animation very unappealing. I was just hoping for the Breath of the Wild pokemon moment...

I feel like I’m crazy for not being happy with it.
I think if they made the character models without an outline similar to what they look like to the Let's Go games and if the textures and wilderness felt more fleshed out sort of like how Breath of the Wild or Animal Crossing New Horizons looks, then I think it would be worth the $60. Right now, I feel like it looks more like a 3ds game.
 

mmmmmm6

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guys I know it's a stupid question but is Animal Crossing new horizons a game of the main series? has this been confirmed? Because I heard someone who thinks otherwise
I think it is a new game in the mainline series. It wouldn't have much of a focus or an apology for a delay if it were a spinoff. I'm sure that they are making it super fleshed out, so we have to build up the town like building and placing buildings and creating event places for special NPCs.
 

MisterSpo

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I'm liking these possible 2020 line-ups, even though 2019 is full-to-bursting and I don't know how I'm going to afford everything or find time for what I want on Switch.

I see the next 3D Mario as a late 2019/early 2020 reveal and potentially a summer release, like Galaxy 2. Right now, I think Nintendo are targeting late 2020 with Zelda, hence why they were confident enough to reveal it yesterday - but Animal Crossing is proof once again EPD isn't free of delays and Zelda is legendary (pardon the pun) for delays. Right now, if I had to guess, I'd see something like this as a basis for 2020:

Q1: Pikmin 3 or Wonderful 101, Animal Crossing
Q2: Mario Golf, 3D Super Mario, Kirby
Q3: Monolith Soft, No More Heroes 3, 2D Metroid
Q4: Zelda (hopefully), Bayonetta 3

Obviously there's more in the works, but I think the schedule, so far as there is one, is looking something like that. I'd expect another potentially big seller scheduled for the second half of the year - maybe a new IP, but I'm not sure what it could be. I'm conscious that as that list stands, Monolith Soft's game, 2D Metroid, NMH 3 and Bayonetta 3 will be relatively small releases (in the 1 to 2 million range). Maybe a new EPD IP.