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unicornKnight · Aug 14, 2019

Prime Trilogy shouldn't be that close to new Prime, it's three games, you wouldn't want your players to get franchise fatigue. I think if indeed the port was ready and was delayed there may be strategic/business reasons or decided to add extra features. I expect it early 2020 but wouldn't be surprised if it hits on December.

But really when it comes to ports there are still many options, the most obvius would be SM3DW.

Deleted member 10737 · Aug 14, 2019

possible announcement for the direct?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...-trademark-possible-new-name-for-town.134806/

Mekanos · Aug 14, 2019

mazi said:
possible announcement for the direct?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...-trademark-possible-new-name-for-town.134806/

Forgot about Town. Might be their December game. Would be weird to have two GameFreak games back to back though.

Or it's delayed like Animal Crossing, lol.

ClickyCal' · Aug 14, 2019

What's the difference between bayo 1/2 and prime trilogy? I don't get it.

Deleted member 10737 · Aug 14, 2019

i think they'll release 3D world port in 2020 and odyssey 2 in 2021.

Mbolibombo · Aug 14, 2019

9-Volt said:
Many of us expect Halo MCC to be this year's "big September Direct third party reveal". XCOM 2 or GTA5 are among the other guesses but only Halo MCC was hinted by insiders.

Yeah if Halo MCC is indeed true, it would be a good time to reveal it.

yuoke said:
What's the difference between bayo 1/2 and prime trilogy? I don't get it.

None.

I dont follow that line of thinking either, that the trilogy needs to be released close to 4. The game wont suddenly dissapear if they released the trilogy 2 or more years ahead of Prime 4.

Tibarn · Aug 14, 2019

yuoke said:
What's the difference between bayo 1/2 and prime trilogy? I don't get it.

Well, Prime Trilogy seems to be a far bigger project, as the games need a lot more work to be nice on the eyes at 2019. Besides that, not much, but Bayo 1/2 was meant to be something to fill slower months, as Bayonetta is a niche game that Nintendo keeps pushing because it's good PR for them, on the other side they are surely more interested in making Metroid Prime something bigger, and a good release date for the trilogy seems a good way to do it.

But who knows, as both Bayo 3 and MP4 seem to be delayed, it's hard to determine if they are willing to sit in a potentially finished ports for too long.

MondoMega · Aug 14, 2019

yuoke said:
What's the difference between bayo 1/2 and prime trilogy? I don't get it.

I also don't get why people are so adamant about Prime Trilogy needing to release a year away from Prime 4.

It doesn't. And since we're talking about a trilogy of games, it's probably better to space it out from Prime 4 by way over a year.

mazi said:
i think they'll release 3D world port in 2020 and odyssey 2 in 2021.

Both in 2020; like NSMBUDX and SMM2 this year.

Believe.

Hercule · Aug 14, 2019

Tokyo Mirage might be a good game to port to the Switch. It would be the closest thing to a Persona game on switch. Since P5 and Joker the Persona franchise is much more popular than it was when Tokyo Mirage released.

ClickyCal' · Aug 14, 2019

Ideally, prime trilogy should be first half 2020, then maybe metroid 5 early 2021. Then prime 4 whenever.

Deleted member 10737 · Aug 14, 2019

MondoMega said:
Both in 2020; like NSMBUDX and SMM2 this year.

Believe.

i'm team #botw2020 and i can't see them releasing both sequels in 2020. obviously it would be great if it happened tho.

Tibarn · Aug 14, 2019

Hercule said:
Tokyo Mirage might be a good game to port to the Switch. It would be the closest thing to a Persona game on switch. Since P5 and Joker the Persona franchise is much more popular than it was when Tokyo Mirage released.

It has a big problem though: no dub and only English text. You can say that Persona 5 is only in English too, but that's not a Nintendo game. I hope it's on the Switch though, but I imagine it'll be released during a slow month or even digital only.

MondoMega · Aug 14, 2019

mazi said:
i'm team #botw2020 and i can't see them releasing both sequels in 2020. obviously it would be great if it happened tho.

I kinda think the opposite honestly. I feel like BotW2 could slip into early 2021, while Odyssey 2 is a shoe-in for 2020 (since the gap in time would be very close to our last iterative 3D Mario sequel).

Think both could happen next year though; we'll see I guess, since I think Odyssey 2 might be the "one last thing" of the Fall Direct.

Mekanos · Aug 14, 2019

2020 schedule
February: 3D World port
March: Animal Crossing
June: Bayonetta 3
September: Odyssey 2
October: Pokemon D/P remakes
November: BOTW2

Source: my ass

Deleted member 10737 · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
2020 schedule
February: 3D World port
March: Animal Crossing
June: Bayonetta 3
September: Odyssey 2
October: Pokemon D/P remakes
November: BOTW2

Source: my ass

i would take out odyssey 2 and add paper mario, mario golf OR super mario party 2, and smt5.

Dwebble · Aug 14, 2019

I think people expecting a new Pokémon game next year may be in for a shock.

Mekanos · Aug 14, 2019

Dwebble said:
I think people expecting a new Pokémon game next year may be in for a shock.

Hey man the pattern never lies.

8 years between Red/Green and FireRed/LeafGreen
10 years between Gold/Silver and HeartGold/SoulSilver
12 years between Ruby/Sapphire and OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire
14 years between Diamond/Pearl and ???

So it is written.

Timppis · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
Are we still confident Pikmin 3 can be a 2019 release? Maybe in December or something?

You misspelled Pikmin 4

Mekanos said:
Hey man the pattern never lies.

8 years between Red/Green and FireRed/LeafGreen
10 years between Gold/Silver and HeartGold/SoulSilver
12 years between Ruby/Sapphire and OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire
14 years between Diamond/Pearl and ???

So it is written.

I have never seen so much hope packed in so little data.

Dwebble · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
Hey man the pattern never lies.

8 years between Red/Green and FireRed/LeafGreen
10 years between Gold/Silver and HeartGold/SoulSilver
12 years between Ruby/Sapphire and OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire
14 years between Diamond/Pearl and ???

So it is written.

I think the more important pattern is that this year is the fourth year in a row that Game Freak has released a new Pokémon RPG, two of which have been HD titles.

Game Freak have never released Pokémon RPGs 5 years in a row.

Platy · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
Can someone explain to me why they would have a September Direct when Nintendo is publishing no less than three games that month? I don't see how it doesn't cause mixed messaging in their marketing. "You know those games coming out in 2-3 weeks? Well, forget about those and look at all these 2020 titles!" October feels like a more logical choice.

The only real smoking gun is SNES games due for the NSO anniversary, but honestly, they could just announce that on Twitter.

There is also the fact that since the first direct, there was like 2 years only without a September main direct

unicornKnight · Aug 14, 2019

Dwebble said:
I think the more important pattern is that this year is the fourth year in a row that Game Freak has released a new Pokémon RPG, two of which have been HD titles.

Game Freak have never released Pokémon RPGs 5 years in a row.

Pokemon Eclipse next year.

Dwebble · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
Can someone explain to me why they would have a September Direct when Nintendo is publishing no less than three games that month? I don't see how it doesn't cause mixed messaging in their marketing. "You know those games coming out in 2-3 weeks? Well, forget about those and look at all these 2020 titles!" October feels like a more logical choice.

The only real smoking gun is SNES games due for the NSO anniversary, but honestly, they could just announce that on Twitter.

The games aren't the main thing that Nintendo will be looking to advertise for September though- the main thing will be the new revision, and portraying it as an attractive platform with a rich upcoming lineup. Games like Link's Awakening and Dragon Quest will be part of that, but so will Luigi, Pokémon, Animal Crossing, and anything else they announce.

Herb Alpert · Aug 14, 2019

Dwebble said:
The games aren't the main thing that Nintendo will be looking to advertise for September though- the main thing will be the new revision, and portraying it as an attractive platform with a rich upcoming lineup. Games like Link's Awakening and Dragon Quest will be part of that, but so will Luigi, Pokémon, Animal Crossing, and anything else they announce.

This

That's what the emphasized at E3 : "our platform has a rich and diversified line up, for each and every tastes"

Simba1 · Aug 14, 2019

yuoke said:
Kind of surprised bioshock collection hasn't been ported yet.

To be fair same could be said for Batman Collection, AC Collection, Far Cry 3/4, Tomb Raider 1/2, GTA V..

Skittzo · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
Can someone explain to me why they would have a September Direct when Nintendo is publishing no less than three games that month? I don't see how it doesn't cause mixed messaging in their marketing. "You know those games coming out in 2-3 weeks? Well, forget about those and look at all these 2020 titles!" October feels like a more logical choice.

The only real smoking gun is SNES games due for the NSO anniversary, but honestly, they could just announce that on Twitter.

You may be right, but on the other hand a September Direct could have the effect of selling the console and September games to people who are currently on the fence, by showing that there's good new content coming in the next 6-12 months or so.

I don't think announcing other games you can't buy for a while really detracts from the upcoming games all that much.

MyGamingDiary · Aug 14, 2019

Am I the only one hoping for a new Paper Mario oder Mario & Luigi in the next direct? It's been ages since a new installment of both.

Sander VF · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
2020 schedule
February: 3D World port
March: Animal Crossing
June: Bayonetta 3
September: Odyssey 2
October: Pokemon D/P remakes
November: BOTW2

Source: my ass

I think this September has done enough to challenge the notion that they will always spread out their releases to have one game per month.

Executive Taxi · Aug 14, 2019

MyGamingDiary said:
Am I the only one hoping for a new Paper Mario oder Mario & Luigi in the next direct? It's been ages since a new installment of both.

The timing seems right since neither IntSys or Alpha Dream have released a game since the 3DS days (FE:TH doesn't because primarily Koei Tecmo developed that game).

Dwebble · Aug 14, 2019

Executive Taxi said:
The timing seems right since neither IntSys or Alpha Dream have released a game since the 3DS days (FE:TH doesn't because primarily Koei Tecmo developed that game).

That's a touch misleading- Alpha Dream put out a Mario and Luigi remake this year, and IntSys put out a Wario Ware game a year ago.

Dark Cloud · Aug 14, 2019

In the end a September or October Direct makes sense. It's Nintendo try not to think too hard about what they will do lol.

I think they'll go with a 3rd straight September direct, but who knows. As far as a Botw 2 and a potential Odyssey 2 release date- either they both come in 2020 or only one comes in 2020 with the other coming in 2021.

Fintendo · Aug 14, 2019

Imagine a direct gets announced today for tomorrow with GTA 5 and Metroid Prime Trilogy announcement.

Dark Cloud · Aug 14, 2019

I just love General Directs now. We get 2-3 new Nintendo first party games nowadays. So much better than the Wii U days for obvious reasons.

I expect another 2-3 new first party games announced in this September/October Direct. Mind you I said "New" so this doesn't include a Nintendo port.

Villa · Aug 14, 2019

Dwebble said:
That's a touch misleading- Alpha Dream put out a Mario and Luigi remake this year, and IntSys put out a Wario Ware game a year ago.

Wasn't the WarioWare game a collection of old microgames though? Add to the fact it was on 3ds and I wouldn't think it would've taken a ton of resources?

cdm00 · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
2020 schedule
February: 3D World port
March: Animal Crossing
June: Bayonetta 3
September: Odyssey 2
October: Pokemon D/P remakes
November: BOTW2

Source: my ass

I know it's just speculation but new Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda in the span of 2.5 months? That's a bit overkill unless N really wants that mindshare before next gen

daybreak · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
Forgot about Town. Might be their December game. Would be weird to have two GameFreak games back to back though.

Town will almost certainly be released with little fanfare, as it's a much smaller title and digital-only (as of last update), at least. I'm expecting an October drop, honestly.

cdm00 said:
I know it's just speculation but new Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda in the span of 2.5 months? That's a bit overkill unless N really wants that mindshare before next gen

Normally I'd agree with you on the overkill point, but 2019's Aug-Nov release schedule has made me rewire any thinking on how Nintendo loads their schedules.

Dark Cloud · Aug 14, 2019

Just in case anyone was wondering about if there would be a price increase for the SNES games.

Dwebble · Aug 14, 2019

squid said:
Wasn't the WarioWare game a collection of old microgames though? Add to the fact it was on 3ds and I wouldn't think it would've taken a ton of resources?

Mostly, but not entirely- many of them needed reworking for the 3DS, and it had a pile of new modes and cutscenes too.

Not as much work as an entirely original game, sure, but nothing that can be entirely discounted.

Dark Cloud · Aug 14, 2019

Executive Taxi said:
The timing seems right since neither IntSys or Alpha Dream have released a game since the 3DS days (FE:TH doesn't because primarily Koei Tecmo developed that game).

I'm expecting Paper Mario in 2020 and Mario and Luigi in 2021.

Dark Cloud · Aug 14, 2019

So in the past 2-3 months Retro's had like 4 people leave. The biggest one of them just left was their Narrative Design Assistant. He had moved to that position exactly when Jon Verall came to Retro as the Writer in August 2016.

Jon Verall recently left earlier this year. He is the lead writer for an unannounced Retro game. He has it on his LinkedIn. I had been speculating for the longest he was brought in to work on Retro's second game with this Narrative Design Assistant, which we know there was one (a second game) going by a current employees LinkedIn.

With this Narrative Assistant leaving too I think their second game is completely done. They've had a few other people just recently leave like I said earlier. It makes me think the game is complete and some have decided to move on.

Platy · Aug 14, 2019

Why release a direct if the switch megaton just got announced outside of a direct ?

Sander VF · Aug 14, 2019

Dark Cloud said:
Just in case anyone was wondering about if there would be a price increase for the SNES games.

Yeah no, fuck off Nintendo.

Hope this doesn't actually apply to SNES. I would be OK with the idea of paying more for a big robust selection of systems, but just 'cause they deigned to drop off some roms? No, not when the service has so many issues and defeciences . Give more money for their P2P server-less service that lacks OG Xbox features just because of few more SNES roms?

Atheerios · Aug 14, 2019

Dwebble said:
I think the more important pattern is that this year is the fourth year in a row that Game Freak has released a new Pokémon RPG, two of which have been HD titles.

Game Freak have never released Pokémon RPGs 5 years in a row.

Game Freak also had never released Pokémon RPGs 4 years in a row until now. That's because now Pokémon is a truly annual franchise and before there were 1 year breaks every generation.

That said, I think DLC for SWSH is more likely than DP. But we will definitely get either of these options next year.

Foxhound · Aug 14, 2019

Ah Metroid Prime Trilogy, the rumor that refuses to die.

Tfritz · Aug 14, 2019

Foxhound said:
Ah Metroid Prime Trilogy, the rumor that refuses to die.

Kevin360 · Aug 14, 2019

I don't want the rumor to die, but it should be dead until we hear anything else from someone credible.

I've been hurt too much this year.

ManNR · Aug 14, 2019

Mekanos said:
2020 schedule
February: 3D World port
March: Animal Crossing
June: Bayonetta 3
September: Odyssey 2
October: Pokemon D/P remakes
November: BOTW2

Source: my ass

Detective Pikachu will be next year's Pokemon game.

BlueManifest · Aug 14, 2019

Dark Cloud said:
Just in case anyone was wondering about if there would be a price increase for the SNES games.

What about people that just subbed recently? I hope the price is reduced for them and they don't have resub again for the new full price

Like example new sub with nes+snes 30$ a year

Existing members that already have sub can upgrade your sub for 10$

ManNR · Aug 14, 2019

Platy said:
Why release a direct if the switch megaton just got announced outside of a direct ?

Oh wow. GOTY right here. I saw the title & fully expected a mobile game. So happy to be wrong!

Mbolibombo · Aug 14, 2019

BlueManifest said:
What about people that just subbed recently? I hope the price is reduced for them and they don't have resub again for the new full price

Like example new sub with nes+snes 30$ a year

Existing members that already have sub can upgrade your sub for 10$

I'm sure it will be upgradeable if this is the case.

KingKong · Aug 14, 2019

in 2025 when they get to the Gamecube games maybe they'll sell them for 40 bucks a pop

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