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Nintendo-First Party Thread |OT2| New Year. New Mii.

Nov 7, 2017
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Revision, E3 2019 will be all about the revision. If its coming this year, I think it will he around September, unless Nintendo has an NDA protected press conference in the upcoming weeks to launch it before summer. But yeah, E3 2019 will be heavily about the revision, Nintendo will he there with their own live conference because of the revision, and focus will he on several games.
Revision will most likely be announced in some random Youtube video in the middle of August

They wont focus their E3 on better battery and wifi
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Just call it Metroid Prime. God of War did it. Nintendo knows how to market. The point is to grow the franchise and to push it like it’s on a level it deserves to be on with the likes of a Zelda or Mario. Everyone will know what Metroid Prime 4 is at the end of the day with the amounts of marketing Nintendo will do.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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I very much doubt final name will include the number 4 as well. Everybody knows it’s the 4th game and the only purpose it serves is to discourage newcomers.

What I want from Prime 4:

  • Back to the Prime 1 roots of 3D Metroidvania gameplay
  • Big focus on graphics, VA, and cinematics
  • Unique online gameplay to give Metroid a real chance of becoming a big franchise
I want them to take inspiration from the original Metroid Prime. Back to basics, less cutscenes, more isolation. And focus on graphics, and music. The world itself should tell a story. They don't need to be too ambitious just focus on a tight level design and a good overworld that has variety. Quality over quantity, if the game world is as big as Prime 1 I would be satisfied.

However I also want a competitive multiplayer mode and chase the Halo crowd. They can differentiate it from other shooters with cool abilities from the Metroid world. Have another seperatley team work on this so it doesn't affect the quality of the singleplayer mode.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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  • Back to the Prime 1 roots of 3D Metroidvania gameplay
  • Big focus on VA, and cinematics
Don't those two contradict each other? A big focus on VA and cinematic would be the exact opposite of returning to the roots of Prime 1.

I mean, we already know that they are returning to the "roots of the original Metroid Prime game" based on the E3 Fact Sheet, and that also specifically mentions "action, isolation and exploration" as three main points. That is exactly what "returning to the roots of Prime 1" would be, not a super cinematic experience.

I do agree with your other point though; they need an online multiplayer mode to try and chase for the Halo audience and also pull in general FPS fans to make Metroid a bigger franchise.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Just call it Metroid Prime. God of War did it. Nintendo knows how to market. The point is to grow the franchise and to push it like it’s on a level it deserves to be on with the likes of a Zelda or Mario. Everyone will know what Metroid Prime 4 is at the end of the day with the amounts of marketing Nintendo will do.
please no, i hate when they reuse the exact same name of an earlier game, then in 5 years we all would have to call it metroid prime 2019 just like doom 2016.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just call it Metroid Prime. God of War did it. Nintendo knows how to market. The point is to grow the franchise and to push it like it’s on a level it deserves to be on with the likes of a Zelda or Mario. Everyone will know what Metroid Prime 4 is at the end of the day with the amounts of marketing Nintendo will do.
GoW was also a soft reboot though. Like way more than prime 4 is geared up to be, with it still be first person, going back to the roots of prime 1.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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they should just drop the 4 even if it's a complete narrative sequel to the first 3 games. numbers past 3 aren't cute in game titles and turn away newcomers. that's why we're not on assassin's creed 9 now. fighting games or games like final fantasy can do it because either the story is not important or each new game has a complete new story, but unless it's a super niche series and they're not looking to attract new people to the game, a 4 in the title is a bad idea.

Metroid Prime 2019 has a nice ring to it. 😏
I would honestly accepting calling it "Metroid Prime (2019)" if I was able to play it in 2019.
lol, get ready for metroid prime late 2020
 
Oct 26, 2017
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They won't drop the 4, but at least they'll throw in a subtitle.
Do we know for sure it's a new trilogy? And even then, halo 4 was also starting a new trilogy. Uncharted 4 wasn't at least for now, and still kept the 4. If prime trilogy is real like what every insider is saying, that pretty much locks in that it will be called prime 4.
Tanabe said he wants to continue with numbered sequels but I think it's silly. The Dark Samus/Phazon storyline is done, it's been like a decade since Corruption, it's a new developer and many long-running properties are moving away from numbered sequels. God of War dropped numbers, Halo dropped them, Assassin's Creeed dropped them, Monster Hunter dropped them. There's only a few holdouts like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Resident Evil or clumsy transitions like Battlefield V.

The series has never been a big seller and and it's the perfect opportunity for a soft reboot instead of being held back by what came before it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Don't those two contradict each other? A big focus on VA and cinematic would be the exact opposite of returning to the roots of Prime 1.

I mean, we already know that they are returning to the "roots of the original Metroid Prime game" based on the E3 Fact Sheet, and that also specifically mentions "action, isolation and exploration" as three main points. That is exactly what "returning to the roots of Prime 1" would be, not a super cinematic experience.

I do agree with your other point though; they need an online multiplayer mode to try and chase for the Halo audience and also pull in general FPS fans to make Metroid a bigger franchise.
Yea, they do contradict, especially focus on VA. I want this to be as isolated as possible.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Tanabe said he wants to continue with numbered sequels but I think it's silly. The Dark Samus/Phazon storyline is done, it's been like a decade since Corruption, it's a new developer and many long-running properties are moving away from numbered sequels. God of War dropped numbers, Halo dropped them, Assassin's Creeed dropped them, Monster Hunter dropped them. There's only a few holdouts like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Resident Evil or clumsy transitions like Battlefield V.

The series has never been a big seller and and it's the perfect opportunity for a soft reboot instead of being held back by what came before it.
I really don't see it having a 4 attached to it or not being the difference in finally making it some big time series. If prime trilogy comes out, everyone can figure out how it's a sequel to prime 3.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Metroid Prime Trilogy HD in 2019
Metroid Prime 4 blowout at E3 and releases this year.

Y'all need to make up your minds....you can't have both. I don't think it makes much sense for Nintendo to do both.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I really don't see it having a 4 attached to it or not being the difference in finally making it some big time series. If prime trilogy comes out, everyone can figure out how it's a sequel to prime 3.
Most people aren't really gonna care about the trilogy and it isn't like any of it will matter in Prime 4.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Metroid Prime Trilogy HD in 2019
Metroid Prime 4 blowout at E3 and releases this year.

Y'all need to make up your minds....you can't have both. I don't think it makes much sense for Nintendo to do both.
Only way it could happen is prime trilogy coming out next month, and then prime 4 in october, or december, but that seems unlikely at this point. More likely is prime trilogy in april or possibly like in august, and then prime 4 in march 2020.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Metroid Prime Trilogy HD in 2019
Metroid Prime 4 blowout at E3 and releases this year.

Y'all need to make up your minds....you can't have both. I don't think it makes much sense for Nintendo to do both.
I don’t think MP4 is releasing this year. I don’t see MPT releasing until April or May. That’s too close for a MP4 release this year
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The series has never been a big seller and and it's the perfect opportunity for a soft reboot instead of being held back by what came before it.
agreed. they had the perfect opportunity to do a reboot. it's been a long time since the last console game, the original trilogy is done, it'll be the first HD metroid game, all the stars were aligned for a reeboot and reinvention of the series but no, let's do prime 4

Metroid Prime for Switch. There everyone is happy.
Metroid Prime Switch Ver.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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You guys would rather have something else other than Metroid Prime 4? How else is the Metroid series supposed to return? The fans have been asking for a new Metroid Prime game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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agreed. they had the perfect opportunity to do a reboot. it's been a long time since the last console game, the original trilogy is done, it'll be the first HD metroid game, all the stars were aligned for a reeboot and reinvention of the series but no, let's do prime 4


Metroid Prime Switch Ver.
Except prime doesn't need a reinvention of the series, it needed the opposite. Fans have been waiting over a decade for it. GoW needed a reboot because the series hit surplus. Same with Zelda. 3d mario went back to the roots because it's also been a long time since then.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You guys would rather have something else other than Metroid Prime 4? How else is the Metroid series supposed to return? The fans have been asking for a new Metroid Prime game.
No, not at all. Prime 4 along with samus returns and likely metroid soon are the best return to the series.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You said you wanted a reinvention of the series though.

I think Nintendo did it right by bringing back Metroid Prime. Take that series and make the necessary expansions and tweaks.
Yea, go the mario odyssey route (minus the ridiculous collectible amount which aped botw) with going back to roots and expanding on it.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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If the series is supposedly going to get big with 4 on the switch, then I'm not sure how prime trilogy wouldn't be cared about. Seems contradicting.
There‘s plenty of people that skip sequels where they haven‘t played the previous games and not all of them are gonna buy the trilogy to prepare themselves.

On the other hand, nobody who wants to play Metroid Prime 4 is going to skip it if they drop the number.

I mean this is something Marvel figured out ages ago which is why no other series than Iron Man uses numbers.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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i meant throwing away the narrative baggage of the past games, keeping what's good about metroid prime, and starting fresh
By narrative, you mean like the lore and stuff? That's kind of considered some of the best stuff of the trilogy. I agree with scaling back from where they went especially with prime 3.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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There‘s plenty of people that skip sequels where they haven‘t played the previous games and not all of them are gonna buy the trilogy to prepare themselves.

On the other hand, nobody who wants to play Metroid Prime 4 is going to skip it if they drop the number.

I mean this is something Marvel figured out ages ago which is why no other series than Iron Man uses numbers.
I mean, uncharted collection apparently has sold 5.5/6 million. It's not as much as 4 obviously, but still a damn big percentage.
 
There‘s plenty of people that skip sequels where they haven‘t played the previous games and not all of them are gonna buy the trilogy to prepare themselves.

On the other hand, nobody who wants to play Metroid Prime 4 is going to skip it if they drop the number.
Really the number is inconsequential.

Metroid Prime 4 isn’t gonna stop being 4 if they call it Metroid Prime: The Quickening or something.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I mean, uncharted collection apparently has sold 5.5/6 million. It's not as much as 4 obviously, but still a damn big percentage.
Uncharted was always a big seller. Metroid Prime doesn‘t really have that privilege.

Really the number is inconsequential.

Metroid Prime 4 isn’t gonna stop being 4 if they call it Metroid Prime: The Quickening or something.
Precisely my point. It’s not gonna matter to fans of the series, will definitely matter to the people that aren‘t yet.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Uncharted was always a big seller. Metroid Prime doesn‘t really have that privilege.



Precisely my point. It’s not gonna matter to fans of the series, will definitely matter to the people that aren‘t yet.
The number itself was about the percentage and not the total sales overall.

But like I said, if prime trilogy is real, the 4 won't be an issue.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The number itself was about the percentage and not the total sales overall.

But like I said, if prime trilogy is real, the 4 won't be an issue.
If you think that the two situations are in any way comparable, I don‘t know what to tell you. The number will represent a barrier of entry, it‘s as simple as that. There‘s a reason why we’ve seen companies move away from numbered sequels but I guess if Nintendo is happy with the series performance, they can keep doing it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It’s not hard to recognize why a consumer seeing the number “4” might be turned off from buying that product even if Trilogy comes. Not everyone will play Trilogy or know about it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If you think that the two situations are in any way comparable, I don‘t know what to tell you. The number will represent a barrier of entry, it‘s as simple as that. There‘s a reason why we’ve seen companies move away from numbered sequels but I guess if Nintendo is happy with the series performance, they can keep doing it.
I think they will feel that prime trilogy, combined with good marketing and a good launch time, and some streamlined mechanics will have it sell enough and don't expect it to get to the mario or zelda stratosphere.
 
Apr 26, 2018
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4 will probably have a subtitle since 2 and 3 did. I guess a Nintendo game like Xenoblade 2 could have sold a lot more if it didn't have a number... but it didn't hinder it from being generally successful. Prime 4 will have a higher target, of course, but there's also less expectation among costumers that they'd be lost, since I'm sure the box and marketing will emphasis "The series returns with an all-new story!"
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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GTA V has sold 50 million more units than IV

Number won't be a problem
GTA isn’t a niche product nor been dead for 10 years. Metroid is a niche series and the Prime series has been absent for 10 years.

Again, I wouldn’t be too worried because Nintendo’s marketing should be doing its job and telling all new consumers this is a new story.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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GTA V has sold 50 million more units than IV

Number won't be a problem
gta is the one of the biggest series ever, everyone already knows what they're getting, and no one feels like they'd be missing out by not playing 4 or 3. metroid could use any help it gets, and part of that is attracting new players.
 
Apr 26, 2018
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GTAV has an incredibly successful multiplayer mode that carried the game to these heights. Do you think Prime 4 will transcend the series?
It's more of the fact that it's generally known that each game starts with different characters/setting, and the story is a secondary feature to sandbox-ing.

I mean, I should also hope a lot of potential buyers are generally aware that Metroid isn't a story-heavy cinematic game or RPG.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I mean it's kind of a pointless debate since we might not know potentially until e3. Either way, we'll find out if prime trilogy is even a thing that actually exists next week. If a direct next week exists.