Nintendo isn't that quite like that. F-Zero needed to have a string of underperforming games before they put it to sleep.
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Nintendo isn't that quite like that. F-Zero needed to have a string of underperforming games before they put it to sleep.
Opportunity costs. Time spent on gimmicks could be spent on conventional games that more people are interested in. Nintendo loves their gimmicks, though, so I expect them to keep pushing Labo and whatever weird idea comes into their head.
The amount of bitching of people paying for re-release of SD games isn't worth it even if it's an E-Shop only game, especially from Metroid fans who acted like a bunch of brats over Federation Force.
Yea, but right now every ninteno series is basically having record breaking numbers. This is the time for them to realyl push metroid. If it still just doesn't work, then ice it. I would rather see them go all out then just play it safe, when it could still flop anyway.
Okay, but if prime trilogy is really happening like people are saying, then why would they make it digital only? Like A prime trilogy remaster collection is way too big to not get physical. Every wii u port has even got physical.
How did Samus Returns do? If that performed below expectations and Metroid Prime 4 underperforms as well, that would make two flops in a row for Metroid.
We already know Labo is continuing. The point is there's a difference between Wii Sports, where the core and casual audience loves it, and 1-2 Switch...
That takes a lot more work and money than I think you think it does. They aren't remastering Prime trilogy to just shadow drop it digital only. That's honestly beyond silly.
I'm just being selfish I guess. But none of those appeal to me and I've been wanting for a new big game since Xenoblade 2/Odyssey, so it's super frustrating. I would rather have more bigger games on the go at once.
Nintendo said it had stern sales, which is is a good sign because they could have just not said anything at all.
About the only thing we agree on is Metroid. I don't want them to play it safe. It's the Switch era. Nintendo has huge momentum with the core audience. Go all out with Metroid Prime 4. I have a feeling it will have a substantial online too.
I never said they would shadowdrop Metroid Prime Trilogy. Shadowdropping something bigger than a mobile game or whatever is stupid. A more simple remaster of the Metroid Prime Trilogy does take work and money, but not as much as, say, a full HD remaster or remake. I think Nintendo would want to keep the budget small for a MPT re-release.
True, it'd be nice to see a new AAA single player title from Nintendo again. But those are generally more expensive to make, and usually aren't the majority of Nintendo's output. Nintendo should cover as wide of a base as possible, especially since the Switch has such universal appeal.
They aren't fully remaking this from the ground up, obviously. It's likely going to be a twilight princess HD tier remaster.
Samus Returns probably did the best that a new 3DS title in 2017 (that isn't Pokemon) could. It reached around half-a-million worldwide (physically; that doesn't include digital sales).
This is true however I can really only speak for my own desires :)
I don't recall LABO selling particularly well (not bad, just not hot off the shelves), and as others have stated I don't think the extra ways to play in the other games are their key selling points - seems like a lot of wasted time and money (Labo aside).
I wish they would shadow drop a digital only port of Samus Returns =[
Ah, that isn't too bad. Metroid Prime 4 alone wouldn't be able to end the franchise unless it is somehow a colossal failure, something like Solo or Mortal Engines (very unlikely, given the hype and anticipation the game enjoys among a subset of gamers).
In the very same interview with USGamer, Takahashi lied about not having solid plans for the future of the Xenoblade series. One month after the interview happened, Monolith Soft announced they were hiring for what's surely a new Xenoblade game. :P
From what I've read, Samus Returns met exceptions. Metroid has never been a big series with the first Prime game being the best selling, and 2 million worldwide. So their expectations for Metroid isn't going to be sky high.
I don't see them going to go 'all out' for a series that best game sold about 2 million. Even if this is the best selling Metroid, it can be that if the game sells 3 million. Very good, but not worth a giant marketing budget that can eat into profits. Not helping is that Metroid is extremely niche in Japan.
So far, we only have rumors that Prime Trilogy is happening. That and the Prime Trilogy are not Wii U games. Two are Gamecube games and one is the Wii U game that you probably can buy in one pack on the E-Shop.
I would assume a great many ARMS buyers play with the default motion controls. It's not the selling point, but Nintendo isn't getting much of a message that unconventional controls are a major negative.
Metroid Prime 4 should sell around 4-5 million. It'll be easily the best selling Metroid. No it doesn't need Mario or Zelda marketing, but a notch below would be great.
I'll be quite content with Animal Crossing as long as it is as content-filled or greater than New Leaf :)
Labo was never intended to sell like a traditional Nintendo release, where most of it sales come from the first year. Nintendo's even said that it's doing well enough to keep going and that they're looking for ways to make sure that sales have long legs.
Nintendo has always been about "gimmicks", even during their hey day. People keep saying that they should focus on the "hardcore" but fail to understand that not making stuff like Labo or 1-2 Switch doesn't make a new F-Zero or Mother game come out any faster. Even their more conventional games have "gimmicks"
Personally, I really like it when Nintendo lets their developers make whatever weird idea they like, so I hope it continues.
This is not a given, the game could end up being trash and selling nothing.
I don't really see 4 million for the simple fact that Metroid doesn't sell well in Japan, which means 90% of those sells will have to come from the US and Europe.
The game can be good and still sell mediocre. I can see it surpassing Prime 1, however, given how well other Nintendo franchises have done. Like people call Star Allies mediocre compared to other Kirby games and it's currently the best selling game of the series.
That's your opinion. I already know how this will play out. It's Metroid Prime. High quality every time.
For one thing they literally can't just straight put the separate games on the eshop because of controls. And there is no precedence for that happening at all. Where did this come up all of the sudden, prime trilogy just being the seperate games shadow dropped on the eshop. Yea Metroid isn't too big, but you are guys are seriously underplaying it to an extreme that they are going to treat it like some rando indie game.
Man, I really hope Nintendo eventually start bringing over those GameCube/Wii titles currently exclusive to the Nvidia Shield, and continue making more of them. With some ISO alternations (to add traditional controls to Wii games) and Deep Learning (added to the Twilight Princess port recently), they could make them into semi-remasters without a whole lot of effort on their part (as they're still emulated at their core).
Except the people who made the first three Prime games are not making Prime 4, so you shouldn't assume it will be high quality just because it has 'Prime' in the name.
There's also no reason to assume it will be trash, unless you are just negative.
Nobody is assuming anything, just saying its not a sure thing for any game to sell 5 million copies just because its (apparently) a popular franchise.
The game is still in development, by a developer that hasn't worked with the series, the previous developer has nothing to do with the game that we know of, we haven't seen even a single screenshot or even a concept art. 5 million is definitely counting your chickens before they hatch.
What do you mean controls? All the Prime games have already been outfitted with an unified control scheme and the collection could have been bought all at once on the Wii Shop. That shouldn't change for a HD collection.
I also never said anything about a shadow drop.
Makes sense. Very unfortunate wait times though. I would be legit confused if games like TLOU2 and the new Halo come out before Bayo 3 or Metroid Prime 4 or even retros game. Its like other consoles keep having these big event tier 1st party releases and we get Mario Party. Now I love and bought Mario Party but that aint one of them heavy hitters.
Never said it would be. I just said you can't just assume it will be as good as the other Prime games since it isn't even the same team. It can be good and be very different from the other Prime games. The fact is, we don't know a thing about it since all we've gotten is a name tag.
Those controls can't be straight ported to the switch. It will need new controls.
No.
These games will HAVE to be playable with the Switch controls in portable mode this time.
Therefore, 3 will have to be adjusted accordingly.
Even then, the motion controls aren't the same.. Joycons aren't the same as the wii mote/nunchuck, no IR.
IR pointing can be simulated with gyro, which despite the occasional drifting, still gives you the same level of percision. Perhaps more so since you can adjust the sensitivity.
Even so, that still doesn't mean that they can't put it all on one package since they did it before with the original Prime Trilogy. And they will have to revamp anyway since they have to make those games HD and raise the resolution to at least 720p.
I really hope there is an option. Going back from trilogy controls to standard would suck.
Yea..you're making our point. Why would they do all of that just to put it eshop only? That makes zero sense at all. I would avatar bet for a year that it won't be digital only.
I have some doubts about that. I can't think of a game that was built around motion controls being re-released without an option to turn them off from Nintendo.
And Metroid is not even that popular, sadly. One of my favorite franchises out there. Now I'm not saying it won't sale like crazy, but Metroid is not your typical Pokemon or Zelda in terms of popularity.
Nintendo should let Hollywood make a movie about this one to start the "um yeah, I always been a fan of Metroid since it's first game" among people /s
Well Metroid franchise is so popular that games can sell over 5 million easy without even showing a single screenshot or video. So obviously people won't care if the game is digital only, they will still buy it. And if you disagree you're just being negative.
The Nvidia Shield Wii ports removed the motion controls from Super Mario Galaxy and New Super Mario Bros. Wii; they could easily do the same for Prime 3 in the Switch trilogy re-release.
Also Prime 3's motion controls wouldn't really work in Handheld Mode. That helps.
Well, as others have pointed out:
So the changes won't be major. The biggest change is again, changing the game to HD from SD if they chose to do a big re-released.
I honestly can't tell what people are being serious and sarcastic at this point.
Okay. The game still won't be digital only. If it is, I will have the other m boxart with a heart over it as my avatar for a year.
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