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Nintendo-First Party Thread |OT2| New Year. New Mii.

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Oct 27, 2017
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Could you point me towards the post saying that? I completely believe you, but amidst people growing more impatient for a Direct (which I see why), I never actually saw it!
If you need Switch rumor stuff you’ll usually find it in this topic. I “watched” the thread. It’s good for reference.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/switch-rumor-archive-rebirth-read-posting-rules-in-op.90045/

Here’s the two sources

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...new-year-new-mii.90098/page-228#post-17184921

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...new-year-new-mii.90098/page-156#post-16924032
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This E3, I don't think Nintendo has that game to base a whole year around. Pokemon is a turn based RPG, Animal Crossing is not the kind of game that demos well, Star Fox, this alleged classic Zelda game, and Luigi's Mansion are going to be big, but they're not the juggernauts you base an E3 around, like 3D Zelda, 3D Mario and Smash are. I think they're going back to a much more varied format this year.
I don't think we can pretend to know how big the new 2D Zelda or Star Fox games are without really knowing anything about them.

For all we know Star Fox will be by far the biggest budget game Retro has ever had and Nintendo's best selling game (not named Pokemon) of the year. And maybe this new 2D Zelda will be revolutionary in the same vein as the 2D BotW demo they showed at GDC (or wherever that was).

These titles have a lot of potential.
 
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I don't think we can pretend to know how big the new 2D Zelda or Star Fox games are without really knowing anything about them.

For all we know Star Fox will be by far the biggest budget game Retro has ever had and Nintendo's best selling game (not named Pokemon) of the year. And maybe this new 2D Zelda will be revolutionary in the same vein as the 2D BotW demo they showed at GDC (or wherever that was).

These titles have a lot of potential.
This is a good point. Not one I thought of is “will they try to revolutionize 2D Zelda too?” Could they go an a big scale for this game too or play it more safe. I’m not sure. I’d lean to more safe than trying to change many conventions.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Let’s talk Nintendo First Party music.

Which IP will have the best Soundtrack in 2019?

I’m going with Either Fire Emblem or 2D Zelda. Link Between Worlds was fantastic. They did a real good job with the remixes.

Fire Emblem has had Better music with each subsequent 3DS release.

Luigi’s Mansion 3. I didn’t really like Dark Moons soundtrack. Felt lacking compared to the original. Hopefully it’s better.

Pokémon Gen 8. I really don’t know what to expect. It varies, I loved ORAS’s soundtrack but found X/Y’s forgettable. Sun and Moon I can’t say since I didn’t play it past a few hours. Let’s go was great but another remake there. Couldn’t really mess it up.

That’s all for now. I’ve been listening to Octopath/Xenoblade Music on this rainy day and thought about the exciting new music Nintendo games will have.
 
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1. Development began in mid 2014
2. The game needed much more time for polish it didn't get
3. A new IP takes much more time than a sequel to an existing franchise. All new resources, gameplay mechanics need to be created and tested from scratch, brand new gameplay and story structure, attempting something the studio has never done before. All this stuff takes time
Xenoblade 2 is quite different than Xenoblade Chronicles X. It’s like comparing Final Fantasy. And while Xenoblade 2 needed more polish, it was still playable and for the most part stable.

That and you can make a difference IP off the same engine. The reason why Xenoblade Chronicles X took so long was mostly the engine along with it being Monolith’s first HD game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This is a good point. Not one I thought of is “will they try to revolutionize 2D Zelda too?” Could they go an a big scale for this game too or play it more safe. I’m not sure. I’d lean to more safe than trying to change many conventions.
I'm probably gonna get a lot of disagreements for this but I'd be curious to see a 2D Zelda game that implemented some sort of rogue-like mechanics. I can't think of any Nintendo games that can be considered rogue-likes so I'd be really interested to see their take on it.

Maybe not a full rogue-like Zelda game but maybe one bonus dungeon having randomized elements?
 
Jan 10, 2018
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Let’s talk Nintendo First Party music.

Which IP will have the best Soundtrack?
Out of the upcoming games this year? Probably Fire Emblem or 2D Zelda. Maybe Platinum's mystery game; because i'm sure it'll have a good soundtrack no matter what the game is. Star Fox could also have a great soundtrack, but who knows.

Animal Crossing always has great relaxing music that fits the mood of that series, but that isn't what most people look for when talking about the best soundtracks.

Pokemon could be good, but it's hard to say. Luigi's Mansion probably won't be amazing, but i'm sure it'll have one or two great tracks.

If Paper Mario somehow squeezes into this year, that'll be up there for sure.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Let’s talk Nintendo First Party music.

Which IP will have the best Soundtrack?

I’m going with Either Fire Emblem or 2D Zelda. Link Between Worlds was fantastic. They did a real good job with the remixes.

Fire Emblem has had Better music with each subsequent 3DS release.

Luigi’s Mansion 3. I didn’t really like Dark Moons soundtrack. Felt lacking compared to the original. Hopefully it’s better.

Pokémon Gen 8. I really don’t know what to expect. It varies, I loved ORAS’s soundtrack but found X/Y’s forgettable. Sun and Moon I can’t say since I didn’t play it past a few hours. Let’s go was great but another remake there. Couldn’t really mess it up.

That’s all for now. I’ve been listening to Octopath/Xenoblade Music on this rainy day and thought about the exciting new music Nintendo games will have.
Can't decide the top between Zelda, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't think Retro Studios taking over development of Metroid Prime 4 is necessarily a sign of "things were going well", but rather let's take the opportunity to get Retro back on track with the franchise they have the most experience with.
No offense but I just can’t see this take being true. They’re a decade removed from the Metroid franchise, with several leads from the time gone. I’m not saying they don’t have any of the previous talent, just that they aren’t “the Metroid Prime devs” anymore. The genre they have the most experience with would be platformer with the recent DK games. Theres the potential that whatever they were working on is somehow being retooled for this game, but I’d be surprised with that as well.

In addition, what company in their right mind would take a failing piece of software and hand it to a team that’s failed to produce anything great for 5 years? On top of that, they’ve not only raised expectations for the game publicly via their PR apology (“We believe we can make this game something that will meet our fans’ expectations ”), but they also advertise requiring AAA experience on their recent job listings? It’s a recipe for stress, anxiety and crunch if Retro isn’t already a very high functioning team.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I'm probably gonna get a lot of disagreements for this but I'd be curious to see a 2D Zelda game that implemented some sort of rogue-like mechanics. I can't think of any Nintendo games that can be considered rogue-likes so I'd be really interested to see their take on it.

Maybe not a full rogue-like Zelda game but maybe one bonus dungeon having randomized elements?
I've had this idea for a 2D Zelda multiplayer mode inspired by Colosso from Golden Sun where you have up to four players go through randomized dungeons that all end up at an arena and players get to choose power ups or weapons based on the order they arrive and it ends in a free-for-all fight.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I've had this idea for a 2D Zelda multiplayer mode inspired by Colosso from Golden Sun where you have up to four players go through randomized dungeons that all end up at an arena and players get to choose power ups or weapons based on the order they arrive and it ends in a free-for-all fight.
That actually sounds pretty cool.
 
Jan 8, 2018
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Let’s talk Nintendo First Party music.

Which IP will have the best Soundtrack in 2019?

I’m going with Either Fire Emblem or 2D Zelda. Link Between Worlds was fantastic. They did a real good job with the remixes.

Fire Emblem has had Better music with each subsequent 3DS release.

Luigi’s Mansion 3. I didn’t really like Dark Moons soundtrack. Felt lacking compared to the original. Hopefully it’s better.

Pokémon Gen 8. I really don’t know what to expect. It varies, I loved ORAS’s soundtrack but found X/Y’s forgettable. Sun and Moon I can’t say since I didn’t play it past a few hours. Let’s go was great but another remake there. Couldn’t really mess it up.

That’s all for now. I’ve been listening to Octopath/Xenoblade Music on this rainy day and thought about the exciting new music Nintendo games will have.
The previous Pokemon and Animal Crossing games feature my favorite video game music of all time so I have no reason to believe this year's games will be any different.
 
Mar 18, 2018
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I'm probably gonna get a lot of disagreements for this but I'd be curious to see a 2D Zelda game that implemented some sort of rogue-like mechanics. I can't think of any Nintendo games that can be considered rogue-likes so I'd be really interested to see their take on it.

Maybe not a full rogue-like Zelda game but maybe one bonus dungeon having randomized elements?
I wouldn't be surprised if 2D Zelda was quite experimental this time.

I'd love to see something unique from a gameplay perspective for the series, like the way in ALBW. Or them implementing the calls for female Link/playable Zelda and letting that happen.
 
Nov 14, 2018
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Xenoblade 2 is quite different than Xenoblade Chronicles X. It’s like comparing Final Fantasy. And while Xenoblade 2 needed more polish, it was still playable and for the most part stable.

That and you can make a difference IP off the same engine. The reason why Xenoblade Chronicles X took so long was mostly the engine along with it being Monolith’s first HD game.
Oh I agree with the first point absolutely. That's what I'm liking about Monolith Soft and how its treating its franchise. It's familiar, yet brand new. The fact that Takahashi wants to make the next installment even more different than what's already present within the 3 entries is fantastic.
What Xenoblade 2 needed was a little more time to tighten up the technical aspects. Low resolution, occasion framerate dip, much more occasional in the Gormott field it gets pretty chuggy there. Some low LOD, textures get blurry pretty close up.
And of course some of the overall experience needed some fine tuning. They need to hire a better/more sound mixers/designers for their cutscenes because many feel like they're missing environmental elements (ambience, reverb for the voice acting, etc) or critical actions that happen on screen which don't have an accompanying sound effect. QOL fixes through player testing feedback like the updates they eventually made, and more Localization time to record lines because some seriously could use another better take.

Having a functional engine is always good too. Though I expect some technological updates in the next round of MS games by both teams
 
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I'm probably gonna get a lot of disagreements for this but I'd be curious to see a 2D Zelda game that implemented some sort of rogue-like mechanics. I can't think of any Nintendo games that can be considered rogue-likes so I'd be really interested to see their take on it.

Maybe not a full rogue-like Zelda game but maybe one bonus dungeon having randomized elements?
I wouldn’t mind a bonus dungeon only because I don’t like rogue stuff at all. I don’t play rogue games. They have zero appeal to me. If it’s kept to one mission or an extra then that’s fine or some multiplayer thing would be fine too.
 
Nov 3, 2017
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Wow, having a roguelike element in the next 2D Zelda is a brilliant idea! I think it would be interesting if it was a separate location like a revamped version of the Temple of the Ocean King from Phantom Hourglass
 
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I disagree. I think it’ll be in space. When I think Star Fox I think in space and the series should feel epic to make it truly stand out.
Yes. People are thinking about Diddy Kong racing, but for me its gonna be on the sky and space , maybe like the game is, but faces on the sky
 

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It's dead because no one visits Hangouts, and thus only participate in those OTs if they have them watched. This thread is in Video Games, so gets a more natural influx of posters.
If you can't be sussed to do something as simple as watching a thread, you're part of the problem.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If you can't be sussed to do something as simple as watching a thread, you're part of the problem.
...It's not about one person. Obviously, I do, since I've posted in it when conversation was redirected there.

It's about the fact that the general populace visits the main pages for Video Games / EtcEra, but not their respective Hangouts, because all that's in Hangouts are long-term OTs — never fresh threads. Therefore, discussion in OTs relegated to Hangouts will necessarily receive much less engagement, because only people who've pre-watched a thread will participate.
 

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I'm anxious to learn more about the five or more unannounced projects. I wonder if Nintendo will announce multiple 2020 games this year.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Hope it is this week cuz I really want to buy some Switch games but I'm saving my money in case a potential Direct has some other good games...
 
Nov 14, 2018
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I'm anxious to learn more about the five or more unannounced projects. I wonder if Nintendo will announce multiple 2020 games this year.
I'll give you a pretty good educated guess based on info from King Zell and Emily:

1. 2D Zelda which we already know exists from King Zell
2. MPT which we already know exists from...well everybody
3. Retro Studios has been rumored to release their game for 2019 pretty much since the big leak + the Metroid announcement doubles this fact (SFGP?)
4. A Wii U game which Emily made mention of being one of the 5
5. Tiny Eshop game which Emily has reiterated multiple times existing and coming

Of course to reiterate, Emily said 5 at the minimum so more is always a possibility
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'll give you a pretty good educated guess based on info from King Zell and Emily:

1. 2D Zelda which we already know exists from King Zell
2. MPT which we already know exists from...well everybody
3. Retro Studios has been rumored to release their game for 2019 pretty much since the big leak + the Metroid announcement doubles this fact (SFGP?)
4. A Wii U game which Emily made mention of being one of the 5
5. Tiny Eshop game which Emily has reiterated multiple times existing and coming

Of course to reiterate, Emily said 5 at the minimum so more is always a possibility
Emily also mentioned to look out for Platinum Games. One of those could be Kamiya’s new game.
 
Dec 8, 2017
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Some small tidbits from the new Spawncast:

-They all seem to agree that there was a January Direct and that it was scrapped, Nate even said some of the announcements he had heard were going to be made in it were announced on Twitter instead.
Metroid had nothing to do with it, apparently.
-Dreamcastguy corroborated and said the same, he heard FFXII's date was going to be announced in the Direct itself.
-Jordan Fringe says there will be new Crash Team Racing footage on Monday.
-Playeressance says he's heard things about Joker in Smash, says he sounds "dope".

Apologies if I missed or got something wrong.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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Some small tidbits from the new Spawncast:

-They all seem to agree that there was a January Direct and that it was scrapped, Nate even said some of the announcements he had heard were going to be made in it were announced on Twitter instead.
Metroid had nothing to do with it, apparently.
-Dreamcastguy corroborated and said the same, he heard FFXII's date was going to be announced in the Direct itself.
-Jordan Fringe says there will be new Crash Team Racing footage on Monday.
-Playeressance says he's heard things about Joker in Smash, says he sounds "dope".

Apologies if I missed or got something wrong.
That's very interesting; especially the first point, since that seems to go against some of Nate's posts in this very thread (if I remember correctly, he has argued against the idea of a January Direct being cancelled before). Might be mixing that up with someone or something else though.
 
Jan 6, 2019
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Some small tidbits from the new Spawncast:

-They all seem to agree that there was a January Direct and that it was scrapped, Nate even said some of the announcements he had heard were going to be made in it were announced on Twitter instead.
Metroid had nothing to do with it, apparently.
-Dreamcastguy corroborated and said the same, he heard FFXII's date was going to be announced in the Direct itself.
-Jordan Fringe says there will be new Crash Team Racing footage on Monday.
-Playeressance says he's heard things about Joker in Smash, says he sounds "dope".

Apologies if I missed or got something wrong.
Interesting. I wonder why the January Direct was scrapped if Metroid had nothing to do with it. I'm guessing that the Yoshi date was another intended Direct annoucement. Are the people on Spawncast known to be reliable?

Edit: Also, Crash Team Racing "footage" is actually a pretty safe bet. Beenox's (CTR dev) Twitter has been constantly uploading screenshots of the game. They could always just drop another screenshot on Twitter, and that would technically be footage.
 
Dec 8, 2017
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Interesting. I wonder why the January Direct was scrapped if Metroid had nothing to do with it. I'm guessing that the Yoshi date was another intended Direct annoucement. Are the people on Spawncast known to be reliable?

Edit: Also, Crash Team Racing "footage" is actually a pretty safe bet. Beenox's (CTR dev) Twitter has been constantly uploading screenshots of the game. They could always just drop another screenshot on Twitter, and that would technically be footage.
Yeah, John, Dreamcastguy, Jordan, and PE all have their connections throughout the industry. They don't BS and I can vouch for them on that. Been watching all of them for years.

And no, Jordan is an Activision brand ambassador, he was pretty clear about it being new footage. He was given gameplay of Reignited Trilogy by Activsion to upload on his channel, same deal here.
 
Jan 6, 2019
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Yeah, John, Dreamcastguy, Jordan, and PE all have their connections throughout the industry. They don't BS and I can vouch for them on that. Been watching all of them for years.

And no, Jordan is an Activision brand ambassador, he was pretty clear about it being new footage. He was given gameplay of Reignited Trilogy by Activsion to upload on his channel, same deal here.
Ahhh, so they're doing a CTR press preview or something? That would make sense. I hope Activision snagged some CTR speedrunners to vouch for whether Beenox has recaptured the feel of CTR or not if the CTR footage is from a preview.

Edit: If Dreamcastguy is legit, that means that Square Enix is considering KH3 and older KH games for Switch. Neat!
 
Dec 8, 2017
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Ahhh, so they're doing a CTR press preview or something? That would make sense. I hope Activision snagged some CTR speedrunners to vouch for whether Beenox has recaptured the feel of CTR or not if the CTR footage is from a preview.
He didn't say, but it's likely. Only footage we have is from the trailer from two months ago, so it's about time to show some raw gameplay.
 
Jan 5, 2019
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Yeah, John, Dreamcastguy, Jordan, and PE all have their connections throughout the industry. They don't BS and I can vouch for them on that. Been watching all of them for years.

And no, Jordan is an Activision brand ambassador, he was pretty clear about it being new footage. He was given gameplay of Reignited Trilogy by Activsion to upload on his channel, same deal here.
I believe Jordan Has said in the past that the Spyro Trilogy will coming to switch sometime this year.
 
Oct 24, 2017
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Of course to reiterate, Emily said 5 at the minimum so more is always a possibility
Indeed. Five is the floor (minimum) -- not the ceiling. The ceiling could be as high as 11 or 12.

It's difficult to give an exact number because any game can be pushed back to 2020 for marketing/scheduling reasons.

Let me try to explain this better.

The "Most likely" Nintendo-published game announcements for 2019. (70% chance or higher)

1. Mystery game #1
2. Mystery game #2
3. Mystery game #3
4. Mystery game #4
5. eShop game #1
6. Mystery Wii U port #1 (2013 title)
7. eShop game #2
8. eShop game #3
9. New Labo Kit

The "Maybe" games for 2019. (The wild card titles - 50% chance or less)

10. Retro Studios secret game (this is assuming it wasn't canned)
11. Metroid Prime Trilogy (assuming Zell's info and Imran's info are correct)
12. Mystery Wii U port #2


Final Update: February 8th, 2019

I am adding eShop game #3 to the list. This is shaping up to be a big year for eShop digital releases.
 
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Indeed. Five is the floor (minimum) -- not the ceiling. The ceiling could be as high as 11 or 12.

It's difficult to give an exact number because any game can be pushed back to 2020 for marketing/scheduling reasons.

Let me try to explain this better.

The "Most likely" game announcements for 2019. (70% chance or higher)

1. Mystery game #1
2. Mystery game #2
3. Mystery game #3
4. Mystery game #4
5. Mystery game #5
6. Mystery Wii U port #1 (2013 title)
7. eShop game (Safe to expect at least one)
8. New Labo Kit

The "Maybe" games for 2019. (The wild card titles)

9. Retro Studios secret game (this is assuming it wasn't canned)
10. Metroid Prime Trilogy (assuming Zell's info and Imran's info are correct)
11. Mystery Wii U port #2
Just wanted to say, I appreciate you being around. Thank you for being you

That's really exciting stuff! Even if some games get delayed into 2020, that's more than okay because 2019 is looking pretty good ignoring middle Q1. Plus the fact that your list is completely leaving out non Nintendo published 3rd party exclusives and third party multiplats, the Switch library is about to kick into high gear.
With some possible 2020 games already like maybe Monolith Soft's new IP, a maybe new 3D Zelda game (if that's what King Zell was referring to with the BotW thing), and other stuff as well... hoo boy
 
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Indeed. Five is the floor (minimum) -- not the ceiling. The ceiling could be as high as 11 or 12.

It's difficult to give an exact number because any game can be pushed back to 2020 for marketing/scheduling reasons.

Let me try to explain this better.

The "Most likely" game announcements for 2019. (70% chance or higher)

1. Mystery game #1
2. Mystery game #2
3. Mystery game #3
4. Mystery game #4
5. Mystery game #5
6. Mystery Wii U port #1 (2013 title)
7. eShop game (Safe to expect at least one)
8. New Labo Kit

The "Maybe" games for 2019. (The wild card titles)

9. Retro Studios secret game (this is assuming it wasn't canned)
10. Metroid Prime Trilogy (assuming Zell's info and Imran's info are correct)
11. Mystery Wii U port #2
Possibly eight major unannounced games for 2019? Nintendo is going to have to start doing two major releases in some months if that's true. Nintendo already has Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Yoshi, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, Daemon X Machina, DQXI S, Pokemon 2019, and Luigi's Mansion 3 as major releases for 2019.
 
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