Yea, but it can mix in with hunters and federation force and pinball then.Really the number is inconsequential.
Metroid Prime 4 isn't gonna stop being 4 if they call it Metroid Prime: The Quickening or something.
Yea, but it can mix in with hunters and federation force and pinball then.Really the number is inconsequential.
Metroid Prime 4 isn't gonna stop being 4 if they call it Metroid Prime: The Quickening or something.
I mean, uncharted collection apparently has sold 5.5/6 million. It's not as much as 4 obviously, but still a damn big percentage.
Really the number is inconsequential.
Metroid Prime 4 isn't gonna stop being 4 if they call it Metroid Prime: The Quickening or something.
The number itself was about the percentage and not the total sales overall.Uncharted was always a big seller. Metroid Prime doesn't really have that privilege.
Precisely my point. It's not gonna matter to fans of the series, will definitely matter to the people that aren't yet.
The number itself was about the percentage and not the total sales overall.
But like I said, if prime trilogy is real, the 4 won't be an issue.
I think they will feel that prime trilogy, combined with good marketing and a good launch time, and some streamlined mechanics will have it sell enough and don't expect it to get to the mario or zelda stratosphere.If you think that the two situations are in any way comparable, I don't know what to tell you. The number will represent a barrier of entry, it's as simple as that. There's a reason why we've seen companies move away from numbered sequels but I guess if Nintendo is happy with the series performance, they can keep doing it.
GTA V has sold 50 million more units than IV
Number won't be a problem
GTA isn't a niche product nor been dead for 10 years. Metroid is a niche series and the Prime series has been absent for 10 years.GTA V has sold 50 million more units than IV
Number won't be a problem
gta is the one of the biggest series ever, everyone already knows what they're getting, and no one feels like they'd be missing out by not playing 4 or 3. metroid could use any help it gets, and part of that is attracting new players.GTA V has sold 50 million more units than IV
Number won't be a problem
It's more of the fact that it's generally known that each game starts with different characters/setting, and the story is a secondary feature to sandbox-ing.GTAV has an incredibly successful multiplayer mode that carried the game to these heights. Do you think Prime 4 will transcend the series?
If it's not this holiday, then next holiday will likely be odyssey 2, or even the next 3d zelda? It's never getting a holiday launch.I just want to see the Metroid series get the sales it finally deserves. I want every possible decision to be made to maximize the sales of Metroid Prime 4. Don't compare it to GTA or Uncharted or some other series. Metroid needs help, those other series don't need help.
This is why I also want it to be a holiday title. I don't want early 2020. If it can't make this holiday then I want it to release holiday 2020.
If the game is good I'm sure lot of people will pick a Metroid game for the first time, I believe Nintendo wants a BOTW effect with all their main franchises. I know people who never played Zelda but bought BOTW because they they love open world games. We know MP4 will be "a return to the roots" but I also believe it will include elements that will make it attractive to non Metroid fans. I'm sure one will be online multiplayer.GTAV has an incredibly successful multiplayer mode that carried the game to these heights. Do you think Prime 4 will transcend the series?
You do know the holidays consist of more than one month? October, November and December are holiday months...If it's not this holiday, then next holiday will likely be odyssey 2, or even the next 3d zelda? It's never getting a holiday launch.
I didn't realize October was. Nintendo has always considered holiday from november until christmas.You do know the holidays consist of more than one month? October, November and December are holiday months...
If the game is good I'm sure lot of people will pick a Metroid game for the first time, I believe Nintendo wants a BOTW effect with all their main franchises. I know people who never played Zelda but bought BOTW because they they love open world games. We know MP4 will be "a return to the roots" but I also believe it will include elements that will make it attractive to non Metroid fans. I'm sure one will be online multiplayer.
I didn't realize October was. Nintendo has always considered holiday from november until christmas.
"The holiday selling season — October, November and December — critically important to our company.
Zelda also has never been a numbered series though. There is a potential downside to having prime 4 not be numbered, like the 3 prime spinoffs.Yes, BotW which isn't a numbered sequel.
The entire point of this discussion is that there is no benefit to having a number in the title, only downsides. It might not have a huge impact but it makes no sense to intentionally limit potential sales.
Well, even then, I don't know if that would actually help. It's better off coming in some really empty month vs just stuffing it in holidays around other really big AAA games.
Zelda is way more popular than Metroid, it wasn't numbered but people knew it wasn't the first Zelda ever and that they might not get all of the story. That didn't prevent them from buying the game. I don't think MP4 will be numbered, I could see it having some name like Metroid Prime Resurrection, but I doubt the number would be such a big deal.Yes, BotW which isn't a numbered sequel.
The entire point of this discussion is that there is no benefit to having a number in the title, only downsides. It might not have a huge impact but it makes no sense to intentionally limit potential sales.
I don't think they necessarily contradict each other. You can make a linear story progression in a Metroidvania. For me it's mostly a way to say I'd like Metroid to be a Nintendo franchise chasing a certain mainstream crowd popular on other platforms. Since Metroid has no real niche as a franchise now, I think that'd be good long term since a succesful Metroid would mean more Metroid games.Don't those two contradict each other? A big focus on VA and cinematic would be the exact opposite of returning to the roots of Prime 1.
I mean, we already know that they are returning to the "roots of the original Metroid Prime game" based on the E3 Fact Sheet, and that also specifically mentions "action, isolation and exploration" as three main points. That is exactly what "returning to the roots of Prime 1" would be, not a super cinematic experience.
I do agree with your other point though; they need an online multiplayer mode to try and chase for the Halo audience and also pull in general FPS fans to make Metroid a bigger franchise.
Nintendo doesn't worry about other AAA games lol. Come on dude. Reggie just told you how important those 3 months are. Idk why you're trying to downplay the build up of a holiday released Metroid Prime game.Well, even then, I don't know if that would actually help. It's better off coming in some really empty month vs just stuffing it in holidays around other really big AAA games.
Zelda also has never been a numbered series though. There is a potential downside to having prime 4 not be numbered, like the 3 prime spinoffs.
But the whole point of what we are talking about is specifically prime 4 sales/metroid sales. Holidays are important because that's when tons of people will get systems/games on sale. Brand new games for holiday are big ones that sell themselves, not a game like prime 4. Those other AAA games should be worried about because they are going to detract from prime 4 big time. They aren't going to detract pokemon or smash.Nintendo doesn't worry about other AAA games lol. Come on dude. Reggie just told you how important those 3 months are. Idk why you're trying to downplay the build up of a holiday released Metroid Prime game.
The whole "having no number, but having a subtitle will confuse people as a spin-off" is so overblown. No one is going to think Metroid Prime: subtitle is a spin-off. The new consumers to Metroid won't even know wth spinoffs the series has.
No thanks, I'd rather not see metroid chase other big aaa series just for sales. If that's what it takes to get metroid to sell, then just let metroid go. I don't want the series to sellout to just make more games like that.I don't think they necessarily contradict each other. You can make a linear story progression in a Metroidvania. For me it's mostly a way to say I'd like Metroid to be a Nintendo franchise chasing a certain mainstream crowd popular on other platforms. Since Metroid has no real niche as a franchise now, I think that'd be good long term since a succesful Metroid would mean more Metroid games.
So you'd rather not add things that add on to a franchise rather than it not becoming bigger? We're talking what is essentially a 3D Metroidvania, just adding robust online multiplayer and making the occassional story beat more in line to what other high budget shooters do. I'd rather Metroid finally becoming succesful, espescially since the core gameplay would be the same as ever.No thanks, I'd rather not see metroid chase other big aaa series just for sales. If that's what it takes to get metroid to sell, then just let metroid go. I don't want the series to sellout to just make more games like that.
For MP4 Nintendo first and foremost needs to cater to the Metroid fans. From the little we read and info we've gathered it appears to be going in that direction- single player, first person adventure, one planet, isolation.
But they'll also want to expand the series. I think keeping some VA and cutscenes is a must. I'm not saying have a lot of it, but some. Also, expand the combat with melee options and what not. Of course, don't forget a much bigger scope since Prime 3. One huge planet to explore with clean beautiful visuals.
They're not trying to turn this into some first person shooter or something that's not Metroid. So don't mess with that.
I think the biggest draw for consumer expansion is in the multiplayer- specifically online multiplayer. Go bonkers and all out on that.
Calm down. All we've seen is a logo.It's being positioned as a tent pole title. If it delivers on the quality front it will see a huge surge in sales like most of Nintendo's 1st party.
Sure
No, because that isn't metroid. Metroid isn't halo and I want to see it take a step back from prime 3.and making the occassional story beat more in line to what other high budget shooters do.
It's ironic that people now want more story and cinematics and cutscenes from metroid, and don't want it for zelda. For me it's the opposite.
If they do, I'm guessing it will be similar to dark aether. Which I would be okay with. Prime 2 is the limit to me for how far I want metroid to go with "narrative" and more set things.
Any rumors about a Switch firmware update?
I'm still missing at least folders. So far we got a major update after 3-6 month, where the 6.0.0 online update took the longest:
2.0.0 - 03/2017
3.0.0 - 06/2017
4.0.0 - 10/2017
5.0.0 - 03/2018
6.0.0 - 09/2018
I guess 03/2019 is a good estimate for 7.0.0, hopefully after getting only stability stuff, we eventually will get some usability updates.