1. LordKano

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    http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high...lions-de-switch-vendues-en-france-en-2018.php

    In a nutshell :

    - Switch is still doing big numbers, they now have high goal for most of their game releases
    - Goal is to reach 2 millions sales by the end of this calendar year. It did one million in less than a year.
    - Selling 20% more games than last year, software dynamic up YoY
    - Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze almost above 100k unit sold
    - Zelda BoTW & MK8DX are still charting every week
    - They only expected 20% of LABO yearly sales to be sold until september, and the remaining part should be sold in the Christmas period. Says that "market curves are different for a toys-like product compared to a standard video game".
    - About E3 : they prefered to keep it close, to only talk about games releasing in the coming months. Says that they've got plenty of opportunities to show more, during Japan Expo (July), Gamescom (August) or Tokyo Game Show (September).
    - Three big games this holiday : Super Mario Party, Pokémon Let's Go & Super Smash Bros Ultimate. First two are family-oriented games and should bring casual audience to the Switch.
    - Pretty ambitious goals for Pokémon & Smash, says that so far public response has been above their expectations.

    EDIT : I corrected a small mistake about the LABO statement, it's 20% of "yearly sales" and not "stock", which could have been interpretated as launch stock.
     
  2. pswii60

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    Didn't we have a couple of 2019 games on there though? Daemon x Machina for example.
     
  3. K Samedi

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    Yeah, they will hit that 20 million target with ease. Im also confident we will see more third party announcements and surprises the coming months.
     
  4. Dr. Mario

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    That's a low goal if they expect to sell less on average than last year? Or do they mean 2 million sales in this year alone?
     
  5. LordKano

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    It's one million from March to December when, last year, it did one million from March to March. So they expect to sell more.
     
  6. Doesn't sound like it did well. Can we get context here? Is this a good number? How does this look in relation to Wii U ver sales etc
     
  7. Zedark

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    Oh dear, bubble's 'bout to burst.
     
  8. Apa504

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    2 million more in this fiscal year. Wrong info.
     
  9. LordKano

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    It's a great number. 100k units in France alone for a game like that is big.
     
  10. Mark H

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    Their wording kind of suggest that it's releasing early next year, Jan/Feb/March.
    That would still be consistant with "coming months" statement.
     
  11. Joseki

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    The reaction to Smash outside of of the forum bubble (probably 0.5% of the audience) has been amazing. Social are full of hype. I feel like Pokémon is a bit more mixed instead, but probably because kids don't have Twitter.
     
  12. Zedark

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    Splatoon 2 did 250k in about 6 months, BOTW 410k in 10 months, MK8D 500k in 8 months, SMO 510k in 2 months: https://www.mcvuk.com/business/nint...s-soar-ea-to-support-platform-and-why-vr-is-a

    I'd say it's a great number for DKTF, going head-to-head with titles like Splatoon 2 and maybe it can sell over half of what BOTW did.
     
  13. Dr. Mario

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    Ah right, that makes sense.
     
  14. Bonejack

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    Would've been nice if they also said if they achieved those expected 20%. But nice to have a confirmation from at least one branch of Nintendo that Labo is expected to be a long seller.

    2, iirc. Fire Emblem and Not-Armored-Core. FE was announced for 2018 last year, though they didn't state wether it's FY or CY. Might be possible that the delay was decided not too long ago and they didn't bother to not show it like Yoshi and other 2019 games.
     
  15. Wiped

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    Remember this is just France and this is just a few months. Wii U version didn't do that lifetime IIRC.
     
  16. yep; that's awesome. Thanks for the info
     
  17. Nostremitus

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    They did, but maybe it'll release before the end of the fiscal year? Or maybe the developers really pressed for the reveal.
     
  18. LordKano

    LordKano
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    It's 20% until September, so we're not quite that here now.
     
  19. TheMoon

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    they namedrop Tokyo Game Show, an event they have NEVER been to?!
     
  20. Bonejack

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    Technically, they did reveal the Wiimote in one of the opening talks of TGS ... but yeah, you're right, iirc they've never been there as an exhibitor. ^^
     
  21. CaviarMeths

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    I think you might be misreading that comment. It's not about a specific goal. They're saying that they're expecting 80% of Labo's YTD sales to occur during the holiday shopping season. Like, say for example Labo sells 100k from launch to September, they're saying they'd expect it to sell another 400k from October through December. Reasoning is that they're expecting it to sell more like a toy than a video game, which typically have huge spikes during the holidays.

    It basically just reinforces what we've known all along: Nintendo wasn't expecting Labo to be a big seller out of the gate.
     
  22. Glio

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    It was always evident that LABO's strategy was to launch it early so that it would give time to fill up with creations and that the real marketing will arrive at Christmas.
     
  23. Bonejack

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    Yeah, misread, you're right, my bad!

    I actually agree with this here. I just kinda misread, yeah.
     
  24. Dark Cloud

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    Lol even France is commenting on E3 because they see all the people complaining XD
     
  25. Dr. Mario

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    That's an attach rate of about 10%.
    I think in the US DKTF for WiiU sold 150k after a few weeks, at an install base of 2M WiiU, so 7.5% attach rate. If France was similar, DK is now doing better than on Wii U.
     
  26. Mory Dunz

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    don't really get the e3 comment.

    1. Nintendo doesn't do much at TGS.

    and...uh yea...of course you can demo games at gamescon and whatever. As usual. There's always opportunities to show more.

    unless it means...announcing new stuff?
    If so, you're Nintendo so you do that whenever you want. So yeah don't get it.
     
  27. Bazry

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    Top selling physical games in France 2017 (right side)

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  28. cw_sasuke

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    Well there it is....yet some people expected Zelda/Mario type first week sales for a product like Labo.
    They will start marketing again for the Holiday season to get families to pick up the Switch if they are deciding between multiple systems.

    They always have a big fall conference around TGS...also JPN 3rdPartys announce content around that time.
     
  29. LordKano

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    Actually they do that every year. Nothing out of the ordinary.
     
  30. They’re still keeping their cards very close to their chest with that LABO comment. Probably because they really have no fucking clue how well it’ll do. It’s gonna be interesting to see if their projection holds true later in the year.
     
  31. Mory Dunz

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    well yeah.
    hm, maybe I should read it in Reggie's voice cause it seems like a non-statement of things will be shown later, like always.


    yeah that worked.
     
  32. Dark Cloud

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    I’ve never seen them comment on E3, but ok if they have.
     
  33. ethomaz

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    Nope.


    They did 1 million from launch (March) to mid February (less than a year)... now they believe they will do more 1 million from mid February to end of December.

    That is about 10% increase in sales in France (projection)... they need near 35% increase in sales YoY WW to reach 20 million.
     
  34. Raijinto

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    Yeah but then you also have the Jan, Feb and March '19 sales that you're so conveniently ignoring to meet that 20 million FY.
     
  35. Clefargle

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    You think PLG and SSBU won’t move systems this holiday? They absolutely will. I have been notedly skeptical of Pokémon Let’s Go, but even I see the sales potential it carries. If they can successfully pull in a fraction of the Pokémon Go crowd, (~20m Daily active users) and some of the core, it will move units.

    Same goes for Smash, if they can pull in lapsed smash players from Melee with things like returning chars, improved mechanics, and GameCube controller comparability, they will likely outsell the last entry and move millions of Switches off the shelf before end of this FY.
     
  36. ethomaz

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    I talked about increase... not overall sales... they need avg. 35% increase in all months to reach 20 million including Jan, Fev and Mar.

    Yeap my % increase include these months.

    France estimates shows 10% increase avg. per month. Do you think Jan, Feb and Mar will have an astronomical increase to cover all the others 10.5 months to reach 35% in the year? C’mon you can’t be serious.

    France is one of the strongest Nintendo markets and these estimates didn’t align with the 20 million Nintendo Forecast... they should be around 2.2 million at end of December for that.

    You have four options here:

    - This France’s forecast is too conservative.
    - The others countries will have a way stronger increase YoY to cover France (way over 35%).
    - Nintendo’s forecast is too optimistic.
    - A mix of all them.

    Edit - Added a 4th option.
     
  37. Shauni

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    Literally a couple, yes.
     
  38. pswii60

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    I'm only ever literal with my use of 'couple', to be fair.
     
  39. Zedark

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    I meant ERA's bubble where Pokémon fans would say that this wouldn't be a big deal (for Pokémon's standard) and that the reception for the game was lackluster.
     
  40. *Guaraná

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    About the 2019 games that was in their Direct, it seems they are to be released during the first months of the year, that's why Reggie and this PR said "6 to 9 months). I trully believe all of those gomes will be available during the 2018 fiscal year.

    If that's true, the good think about it is that 2019 seems better planned than 2018 so the first couple of months won't be dry like this year.

    At least if those games are, in fact, schedule for a Jan to March release.
     
  41. *Guaraná

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    people are waiting four freakin hours to play Pokemon during E3.
     
  42. Zedark

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    Exactly.
     
  43. shaneo632

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    I don't have much faith in that Labo projection but happy to be wrong.
     
  44. Zedark

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    Which games did they have for 2019? I remember Daemon X Machina and Fire Emblem ( ;_; ), but what else was 2019?
     
  45. Noppie

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    That was it. Yoshi got delayed, but wasn't shown or talked about. So just the 2.
     
  46. Zedark

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    Ah yeah, Yoshi, too, indeed. If H1 2019 is Yoshi, Fire Emblem and Daemon X Machina from a first party perspective (and probably something more, either a high-profile port like NSMBU or a big game like Animal Crossing), then that's a pretty good/great H1 from a first party point of view.
     
  47. *Guaraná

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    plus the new Pokemon.
    The rest, as Nintendo said before E3, will be reveled later this year.
     
  48. *Guaraná

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    yeah, the key will be third party. Nintendo must try a different approach to increase it's support.
     
  49. Creamium

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    Damn, this is great right? I'm so happy this game got a rerelease on Switch. I hope we can get some combined numbers for this game at some point so we can compare with WiiU. Of all the rereleases, this is the one I really want to see do well.
     
  50. Phabh

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    Those 2 statements contradict each other. They have nothing big other than those 3 for the rest of the year and Q1 2019 probably. They're not keeping it close, that's a lie.