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Nintendo FY3/2020 Q2 Earnings Release, Switch Hardware 41.67M LTD, new download SW data
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From what you say Super Mario Party sales are disappointing too.
More of an observation that makes me wonder how much Nintendo is competing with themselves by pumping out all those games.
So, SMM2 sold the entire ltd of the wii u version already, surpassed the 3ds version already and will probably sell more than both combined
Oddissey ia among the best sellin 3d mario ever
But of course those salea are disappointing and nintendo should put mario to rest
Oddissey ia among the best sellin 3d mario ever
But of course those salea are disappointing and nintendo should put mario to rest
Super Mario Party doesn't need constant updates and has appeal beyond online communities; that's not a 1:1 comparison.
I don't think they're competing with themselves. They're all different games and Nintendo spread them out pretty good. It might look "worse" only because Nintendo has one system to develop for instead of 2. So all the Mario games are on Switch.
I love when companies actually give numbers.
41 million switches is very good for Nintendo.
great sales on the games as well.
41 million switches is very good for Nintendo.
great sales on the games as well.
NSMBUDX and SMM2 won't magically cease to sell after September 2019.
These games are likely candidates to be evergreen games.
The brand is a sort of "Nintendo's seal of quality" that gives visibility but what ultimately let Nintendo to churn out sequels in game franchises that are decades old is a winning formula that can be exploited by introducing new spins and by putting the right care in the development.
You shouldn't think in term of "what characters are there in a Nintendo game" instead you should look for "what the characters do in the game" or "what are the factors that makes a Nintendo game enjoyable".
These games are likely candidates to be evergreen games.
Nintendo for a long (long) time is aware that what sell a game ultimately isn't the brand but the game structure.
The brand is a sort of "Nintendo's seal of quality" that gives visibility but what ultimately let Nintendo to churn out sequels in game franchises that are decades old is a winning formula that can be exploited by introducing new spins and by putting the right care in the development.
You shouldn't think in term of "what characters are there in a Nintendo game" instead you should look for "what the characters do in the game" or "what are the factors that makes a Nintendo game enjoyable".
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They're still making more money then not releasing Mario games so the existing few can sell a few more copies.
I've heard actual arguments that games like Yoshi could've sold a million or 2 more if there weren't so many Mario games. But the logic is dumb because there's more money to be made releasing more games.
Of course.
SMM2 will substantially outsell both the Wii U and 3DS games and will likely receive a few major updates in the future. It'll be fine.
The only real issue with SMM2 imo is they haven't shared any of their plans for the game update wise. It needs a bookmark site and they need to continue adding to it. But it's sold ~4m in 3 months and 2 days without a holiday. That's solid. It will cross 8m for sure, 10m isn't out of the cards either.
I hope the silence on SMM2 means they're just hard at work at a big beefy update. Would be incredibly stupid for them to kill the momentum of that game as an evergreen title
I respect Imran and all but there is no way he is talking to people at the paygrade to know if MM2 sales are in line with expectations or not. I doubt many people in the US outside Doug Bowser really know that. Double so as this is a game that was used specifically to drive online subs (being bundled with it at a higher price).
For whatever reason a group of people seem to have an irrational dislike of the game here on ERA and will latch onto anything that gives some credence to the game underperforming when even raw numbers + logic tell us otherwise
For whatever reason a group of people seem to have an irrational dislike of the game here on ERA and will latch onto anything that gives some credence to the game underperforming when even raw numbers + logic tell us otherwise
It's unlikely Switch will see another 2d Mario.
Nintendo already mentioned they want MM2 to become an evergreen title.
No it's not. The Switch probably has another 3-4 years life. 2D Mario doesn't take long to make. All we got was a port of NSMBU and a sequel to Mario Maker which isn't part of the mainline 2D Mario games.
If they did it they'd need to do something big like Odyssey did in terms of gameplay, the same with the art style, they've really exhausted the current NSMB art style.
No. But by December 31st, it should be over 50M, at which point this might hold true. If not then, then by the end of March. At any rate, it'll happen within the next 6 months.
the result is they are eating sales each others. not to mention yoshi which is still a game in the same universe.
Metro said it is around 43m...
As for MM2... NSMBUDX sold 4.6m copy this year, around 8.6 million copy of a 2D Mario game were sold this year.
Disappointing or not, selling 8.6m 2D Mario game in 9 months is incredible, but it feels like both games are eating into each others sales.
I mean, you almost had me. Which is more than you usually manage so good job I guess.
Thanks all. Just an amazing turn around for the big N.
Yoshi number is just for 3 days, so it can sell 1 million more and be at the million seller list for this actual fiscal year . (until end of march 2020)
Nintendo will need to actually update MM2 for it to become evergreen.
Super Mario Party disagrees. Also, it literally just got an update a few weeks ago.
It did finally get an update which was really nice.
But one update in four months for this type of game is extremely non-aggressive.
There is still a TON of potential for evergreen sales of MM2. There are so many DLC possibilities that could breath new life into the series. A well timed DLC right around the holidays could be just the 🎫 ticket.
Maybe updating a game for free over a long period of time doesn't make too much sense for Nintendo. they don't sell in-game items in those games. for now, they still don't operate live-service games but prefer sequels over that.
Will Mario Maker 2 add SMB2/Mario Odyssey style within the next two weeks in time for Black Friday? Who knows, let's see!
You logic fail when other titles have become evergreen without updates.
Why are people calling Mario Maker 2 sales disappointing? Didn't the game sold more than the Wii U and 3DS version?
I think another 2D Mario is a long way off. Both deluxe and MM2 will sell for a long while and no, I don't believe that Nintendo thinks MM2 sales are disappointing. I mean maybe they would want it to sell like a hit 2D Mario game but that would be foolish. MM2 will outsell the older versions by a large margin.
XB1 is likely over Switch, but not because "it was at 41m by the end of 2018 no way sales fallen that bad" (because to be honest yes they fallen REALLY bad), it's because we talk about shipments numbers.
Let's start with the fact that the 41m figure is an estimate and not an official number, but let's say it's true, that was sold through. Sell in numbers should add 1/2 million more, so it was likely 42/43m sold in.
So even if XB1 literally sold 0 units in 2019, it would still be above Switch in term of sold in numbers.
But this doen't matter that much, because before the end of this year Switch will 100% surpass it (sold in and sold through).
Yes, but that will depends on how much hardware they will move on Q3. They are currently at 6.93 millions. Shipping at least 10 million units this quarter is doable. They got Switch Lite + mainline Pokemon to do it. Selling 3 million in Q4 is easy when they got Animal Crossing in March.
Mario Maker 2 is selling a lot less than Smash right now and needs updates to reignite the hype for it.
Ahh...we don't have any up to date official or close to official numbers to go off of? Still, those estimates are definitely surprising
Oh I fully believe and know that the Xbox One has still sold more units than the Switch has atm and that the Switch will outsell it soon enough. It's just surprising that the Xbox One has had such a sharp decline in sales this year. I guess I figured it's sales would hold stronger before its successor dropped
You want the New Super Mario Bros art style again? ;)
It is possible but not easy. To do that they need to ship 10m device this holiday and 3m in Q1-2020.
Last H2 they shipped 11.88 (9.42 + 2.46) million. To hit 20 million they need to ship 13.07 million. That's about 10% growth. By comparison Q1 was up 13%, Q2 was up 50%, and H1 was up 37%.
I think it's possible given the stronger lineup + Lite. Of course the Switch will have to sell about 10 million next quarter to do so.
I think it's possible given the stronger lineup + Lite. Of course the Switch will have to sell about 10 million next quarter to do so.
The last official number for XB1 was "almost" 10 million shipped by the start of November 2014. More accurate numbers from Microsoft, 5.1 million shipped by the end of March 2014.
Sadly MS really didn't give much data, all we can do is using some estimate from company/analyst.
Personally, i use those numbers (with the awareness that they may be off)
2013 - 3.0 million (this is the only official number)
2014 - 10.5 million
2015 - 19.1 million
2016 - 27.6 million
2017 - 35.0 million
2018 - 41.0 million
Where's that figure coming from? They sold just shy of 7m consoles last year, so I'd be very surprised to see them at nearly 5m without the holidays this year.