Do you think there will be a Switch Pro before the next Nintendo console?

  • Yes, we will get the equivalent of a New 3DS.

    Votes: 292 28.8%
  • No, the OLED was the final Nintendo Switch revision before Switch 2.

    Votes: 519 51.2%
  • Why does everybody care what I think on this subject? We're all in the dark

    Votes: 202 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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indospot

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Jan 13, 2021
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it makes me so deeply sad that other people don't enjoy tabletop mode

it's the best part of the switch and I'm glad we're getting a new kickstand (and screen for that matter) to improve it

Just here to reiterate this sentiment. Tabletop mode is awesome, even if I admittedly don't use it all the time. To be fair, I haven't been with friends for months, so it's harder to warrant.
 

indospot

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It just occurred to me that with the new kickstand, at least those Bluetooth adapters that plug into the USB-C port don't have to make the Switch topple over in tabletop mode. It'll look funky, but it will probably work.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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this post is on the money

these everlasting rumors can't still be true three years later. something behind the scenes has changed

I am guessing chip shortage and pandemic, along with their extended success for the current model.

We get the updated screen and the enhanced battery.

Oled will be in Switch 2, along with updated controllers and internals.

I honestly think the next switch will be looking at updated internals along with controls.

Thus expanding in current iteration along with adding their next evolution.
 

kimbo99

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Horses should be held about RDR2 on Switch Pro. Simply based on the fact that Rockstar is finally giving Nintendo another shot with their relationship. I reckon we'd need to see good sales from the Remasters(if they are coming to Switch) before Rockstar would get a dev kit for a Nintendo Switch Pro. I don't buy it.
 

Skittzo

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What makes me confused about everyone talking Switch 2 is that Nintendo has said repeatedly that they want the Switch to last longer than other consoles and that it's still, as of it's 5th year on the market, about halfway through its life span.

None of that points to a traditional successor happening in 2022/2023. Instead it points to a life span longer to the 3DS, which lasted like 8 years. Instead of the new 3DS being 4 years after launch, the new Switch can be 5 or 6.
 

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A larger focus on tabletop mode due to the SwOLED is the perfect opportunity to make a multiplayer co-op DnD-like, right, Nintendo?
 

9-Volt

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Horses should be held about RDR2 on Switch Pro. Simply based on the fact that Rockstar is finally giving Nintendo another shot with their relationship. I reckon we'd need to see good sales from the Remasters(if they are coming to Switch) before Rockstar would get a dev kit for a Nintendo Switch Pro. I don't buy it.
Now that RDR1 is on the cards, it's safe to assume RDR2 on Switch project is shelved.
 

Oregano

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What makes me confused about everyone talking Switch 2 is that Nintendo has said repeatedly that they want the Switch to last longer than other consoles and that it's still, as of it's 5th year on the market, about halfway through its life span.

None of that points to a traditional successor happening in 2022/2023. Instead it points to a life span longer to the 3DS, which lasted like 8 years. Instead of the new 3DS being 4 years after launch, the new Switch can be 5 or 6.

The obvious answer is that the Switch will be supported with more software, for longer because of a lengthy cross-generational period.

The PS4 is going to have a 10 year lifespan despite PS5 launching at Year 7.
A larger focus on tabletop mode due to the SwOLED is the perfect opportunity to make a multiplayer co-op DnD-like, right, Nintendo?

Reminder that the last game famed Nintendo exclusive developer NSpace made was an asynchronous multiplayer D&D game.... for PS4/XBO/PC
 

Paper Cheese

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What makes me confused about everyone talking Switch 2 is that Nintendo has said repeatedly that they want the Switch to last longer than other consoles and that it's still, as of it's 5th year on the market, about halfway through its life span.

None of that points to a traditional successor happening in 2022/2023. Instead it points to a life span longer to the 3DS, which lasted like 8 years. Instead of the new 3DS being 4 years after launch, the new Switch can be 5 or 6.
Yeah, I’m with this, a Switch Pro of sorts makes way more sense than a successor in the context of Nintendo’s repeated guidance on how long they expect the switch life cycle to be. I’ve not been keeping up with the thread, what’s up with the sudden lack of belief in the switch revision? Has something happened?
 

Raccoon

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May 31, 2019
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I've not been keeping up with the thread, what’s up with the sudden lack of belief in the switch revision? Has something happened?

Nintendo-Switch-OLED-with-White-Joy-Con


this happened
 

Sandfox

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Oct 25, 2017
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Kelios said there are new leaks that he won’t be sharing, but I haven’t seen them posted anywhere.
 

Dakhil

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Didn't Nintendo say the successor system will be drastically different? They meant new concept new gimmicks. Any graphical boost, whether it's small or big, will make Switch a Switch Pro not Switch 2. The successor needs more than that.
Are you referring to when Shuntaro Furukawa mentions that whilst Nintendo constantly thinks of ideas for new ideas, many of them aren't feasible due to cost and technology limitations. And if any of the ideas becomes feasible, Nintendo devotes resources into developing the technology?
 

Oregano

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I would also point out that Nintendo also insisted that the 3DS would continue to be supported beyond 2019 and that the Switch was absolutely not succeeding the 3DS.

I never bothered to look into Sword Coast Legends… why does it sound exactly like what I wanted lmao

It was literally the perfect concept for a Wii U game...
 

Skittzo

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The obvious answer is that the Switch will be supported with more software, for longer because of a lengthy cross-generational period.

The PS4 is going to have a 10 year lifespan despite PS5 launching at Year 7.

I mean, yeah. I totally agree.

That's one of the reasons why I maintain there is zero effective difference between a theoretical New Switch and a theoretical Switch 2 outside of marketing.

But going back to that PS4 comparison, if we're expecting the Switch to have a lifespan longer than the 3DS (meaning more than 8 years) then a Switch marketed as a Switch 2 coming in year 5 or 6 would make it much more difficult to maintain Switch 1 sales and support for another 4-5 years. If instead it's marketed like the new 3DS was, then you're signaling that the base Switch is not completely obsolete and will still get most of nintendo's output until a more traditional successor comes.
 

TheGamingNewsGuy

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Checked the dark parts of the web - there's no Legends leak yet though apparently there's blurry screenshots (but i haven't seen them)
 

Oregano

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I mean, yeah. I totally agree.

That's one of the reasons why I maintain there is zero effective difference between a theoretical New Switch and a theoretical Switch 2 outside of marketing.

But going back to that PS4 comparison, if we're expecting the Switch to have a lifespan longer than the 3DS (meaning more than 8 years) then a Switch marketed as a Switch 2 coming in year 5 or 6 would make it much more difficult to maintain Switch 1 sales and support for another 4-5 years. If instead it's marketed like the new 3DS was, then you're signaling that the base Switch is not completely obsolete and will still get most of nintendo's output until a more traditional successor comes.

That also means committing to only having a refresh for the next several years despite being past the peak of the platform. Keeping in mind that the peak of the PS4 was 2016, where PS4 Slim and Pro launched at the end of the year, and the platform immediately declined from that point.

The Switch will be 5 years old in March and with the OLED at the end of this year we're getting it end of 2022 at the earliest. It's going to launch solidly after the half way point.
 
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I expect a lot of heated discussions about Pokemon Arceus this week
It makes me glad the NMHIII previews aren't until the following week. It would have gotten completely steamrolled.
Now that RDR1 is on the cards, it's safe to assume RDR2 on Switch project is shelved.
What's the logic behind that? You don't think them revealing RDR1 Remastered and RDR2 couldn't capture a lot of impulse buys?
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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That also means committing to only having a refresh for the next several years despite being past the peak of the platform. Keeping in mind that the peak of the PS4 was 2016, where PS4 Slim and Pro launched at the end of the year, and the platform immediately declined from that point.

The Switch will be 5 years old in March and with the OLED at the end of this year we're getting it end of 2022 at the earliest. It's going to launch solidly after the half way point.

To be fair we don't know for sure that we're past the peak. Q1 was down 20% but still up 100% from 2019. New hardware is launching in Q3 (and the initial shipment will be in Q3) and Q3 and Q4 software is much, much more impressive than last year's.

Either way, I don't think the timing of the peak is terribly important, it's still moving very good numbers and that's when you want to introduce an upgrade.
 

Oregano

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To be fair we don't know for sure that we're past the peak. Q1 was down 20% but still up 100% from 2019. New hardware is launching in Q3 (and the initial shipment will be in Q3) and Q3 and Q4 software is much, much more impressive than last year's.

Either way, I don't think the timing of the peak is terribly important, it's still moving very good numbers and that's when you want to introduce an upgrade.

Nintendo's official guidance is that hardware, software and profits will all be down this year.

The point is that if we're not getting a real successor for another 4 or 5 years we don't need good numbers now, we need good numbers for the next several years.
 

NotLiquid

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Legends Arceus' reveal was leaked including substantial info that hasn't even been formally revealed yet so I wouldn't be surprised if leaks from the coming Presents are already floating around somewhere in the grapevine
 

NateDrake

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Oct 24, 2017
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It's kind of bizarre though right? Like apparently Nintendo informed devs about this thing ages ago, yet it's taken at least 3 years to get it to market? Surely it must have been expected earlier in the Switch's life. Unless it got canned or revamped to the Switch 2.
The 4K DLSS Switch wasn't known to developers until late 2020. Not sure where this three to market concept is stemming from.
 

9-Volt

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Oct 27, 2017
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the statement doesn't imply anything more than they looked into RDR and RDR2 for Switch
That statement didn't but RDR2 was leaked for Switch in that year. We had Switch Pro Controller layout found in the game's files. Meaning it was in full development in some point. What Totilo heard confirms it.

Now it's been 2 years since then and now Kotaku heard that Rockstar is considering RDR1 remaster. Nothing about RDR2 port on Switch. Of course it still can be a secret, even bigger secret than GTA Trilogy remasters, but I don't think so.
 
Aug 15, 2020
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It sounds like they tried to make RDR2 on base Switch a thing but didn't work out. They could start the work on RDR on base Switch now and hold RDR2 off until the Switch Pro is out.
The article made it sound like RDR Remastered was still a ways off let alone what engine it'd be on (like the GTA trilogy moving to UE). I'd suspect given the the extensive amount of work it'd already take with the code, they'd probably try to reuse some of the same tech/assets as RDR2 in which case they could have both coming to Switch. Depending on how much work for 2 was already done of course. Or they could both skip the base Switch. Or maybe it'll be on UE as well. I dunno.
 

Plum

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May 31, 2018
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My tempered glass screen protector's got a big crack in it :(

Now should I take it off until my new ones arrive, or keep it on and deal with the crack for the time being? I'm still spooked by all the reports of scratched screens from docking the console.
 

Gravijah

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Oct 25, 2017
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RDR re-mastered would still be on Rockstars internal engine. It's tied pretty directly into the physics systems and other stuff of the modern games. GTA III-SA don't really have that.
 

NateDrake

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Stephen Totilo said he was told in 2019 that RDR2 was in development for Switch & Switch Pro.
I see.

I know RDR2 was tested for the Switch around then. I was also aware of Rockstar project for Switch in mid-2019, too -- not related to RDR2.

I'm not sure I'd take that as confirmation of a dev kit being distributed vs the plan was to bring the game to the revision once it became available and discussions, as far as expressing intents to bring such a revision to market, was discussed with select companies around then.
 
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