Join us and #SAVETHESAVES to raise awareness!
This is Pyoro, one of Nintendo's many beloved characters.
This cute little birdie and I have a few things in common. We're both cute, we both like to eat legumes, and we're both red as can be at the moment, albeit for different reasons.Of course, I'm talking about the news regarding Nintendo Switch Online's cloud save feature. Now, this thread is NOT about online discussion, or about reactions about the amount the fee is itself (go to another thread for that), this is about calling out pure greed for what it is, and yes, this is pure greed.
Now, saving data costs money and we recognize this. Whether you paid for a proprietary memory card in days of yore, an SD card, a hard drive, a flash drive, or had the cost added in for a cart, all of that costs money, and we recognize this. The option to back up non-cart data however, has always been free of fees for consoles and PCs. Basically, what we are saying is that if you have the means, you can do it, and do it as often as you'd like without an additional fees. It's always been this way, that is until now...
PC games? Copy paste to anywhere, with anything.
Sega CD? Buy multiple RAM carts.
PlayStation? Duplicate your memory card.
Saturn? Backup memory cart.
Dreamcast? Use extra VMUs or memory cards!
PS2? See PS1
GCN? Memory cards baby!
Xbox? Memory card it!
Wii? Grab an SD Card!
Xbox 360? Use a flash stick, memory card, or hard disk.
PS3: Use a USB flash stick.
Even The Wii U: Use a USB 2.0 Mass Storage Device.
PS4: Use a flash drive.
Xbox One: FREELY USE THE CLOUD
Nintendo Switch: NOPE!
For those not in the know, there is no way to back up Nintendo Switch saves to an SD card or via USB. The only option is the cloud this fall, behind a paywall, and that is a problem. What about little birdies like Pyoro that just wanna play on the go and don't need online play? Thanks to paywalled backups, it's one wrong bump on the noggin, and birdie go bye-bye, just like your saves!
Think about it this way. You can back up your computer without paying a fee. You can do the same thing for your tablet or smartphone. All those console mentioned earlier? You've got options involving no fees, for every single one of them, except for this one. Nintendo Switch is the console that stands to benefit the most from having backups, and the one that arguably needs it the most due to its portability factor. But don't just take my word for it, here are some thoughts others in our community have on the matter. This is just here on Era, but similar sentiments can be found all around.
Backups should not be locked behind a paywall, period.
BUT WAIT, IT GETS EVEN WORSE!
So backups are paywalled and Nintendo doesn't even include the ability for backups in all games?
Greed. It's pure half-baked, anti-consumerist greed, and we can call it out as such.
I love Nintendo, and I'm certain a lot of you do too. Nintendo fans are amongst the most passionate game players on the planet, but we have to call out bad practices and anti-consumer trends for what they are. Other companies in the gaming industry have made questionable choice in years prior, but because people like you and me raised awareness, change came about. Look at the policy updates for the Xbox One after the E3 reveal, or the lootbox tweaks in games such as Battlefront II and Shadow of War, or even Nintendo themselves being more inclusive in Animal Crossing by adding new skin tone options after the limited ones in New Leaf. The point is that when awareness to an anti-consumer situation is raised, people take notice, and change CAN happen.
What we want is simple, and any of these 3 options would be acceptable.
Psycho_Mantis came up with #SAVETHESAVES, a brilliant, catchy hashtag! Use it and spread the word to tell Nintendo and the world that you just want to have peace of mind, without having to pay a fee for it. Tell them that a free option for backups is the only way to play fair! Be sure to link to http://bit.ly/SAVETHESAVESwhich links back here, so people can learn more about the issue and developments in this thread.
You can also retweet this tweet if you'd like.
Additionally, in another thread, someone mentioned this.
If you go to the console's news section and "downvote" their NSO PR, it sends Nintendo a direct message that you are not satisfied with their announcement, so take a moment to Oh. it on your system. Just another way of sending a message, albeit a more general one.
What Gaming Websites & Bloggers Are Saying About The Situation
Kotaku: Nintendo Fans Campaign For Switch Backup Saves
Polygon: Nintendo Switch remains the only console with no free backup saves
/r/NintendoSwitch on Reddit: Their thread and discussion on this very thread!
US Gamer: The Nintendo Switch's Cloud Save Paywall Has People Mad
YongYea: Why Switch Users are Pissed at Nintendo's Handling of Save Backups
So spread the word! Contact your favorite blog, use the graphic above on your own site, retweet the tweet, and remember to use #SAVETHESAVES. Together, we can do it!
This is Pyoro, one of Nintendo's many beloved characters.
This cute little birdie and I have a few things in common. We're both cute, we both like to eat legumes, and we're both red as can be at the moment, albeit for different reasons.Of course, I'm talking about the news regarding Nintendo Switch Online's cloud save feature. Now, this thread is NOT about online discussion, or about reactions about the amount the fee is itself (go to another thread for that), this is about calling out pure greed for what it is, and yes, this is pure greed.
Now, saving data costs money and we recognize this. Whether you paid for a proprietary memory card in days of yore, an SD card, a hard drive, a flash drive, or had the cost added in for a cart, all of that costs money, and we recognize this. The option to back up non-cart data however, has always been free of fees for consoles and PCs. Basically, what we are saying is that if you have the means, you can do it, and do it as often as you'd like without an additional fees. It's always been this way, that is until now...
PC games? Copy paste to anywhere, with anything.
Sega CD? Buy multiple RAM carts.
PlayStation? Duplicate your memory card.
Saturn? Backup memory cart.
Dreamcast? Use extra VMUs or memory cards!
PS2? See PS1
GCN? Memory cards baby!
Xbox? Memory card it!
Wii? Grab an SD Card!
Xbox 360? Use a flash stick, memory card, or hard disk.
PS3: Use a USB flash stick.
Even The Wii U: Use a USB 2.0 Mass Storage Device.
PS4: Use a flash drive.
Xbox One: FREELY USE THE CLOUD
Nintendo Switch: NOPE!
For those not in the know, there is no way to back up Nintendo Switch saves to an SD card or via USB. The only option is the cloud this fall, behind a paywall, and that is a problem. What about little birdies like Pyoro that just wanna play on the go and don't need online play? Thanks to paywalled backups, it's one wrong bump on the noggin, and birdie go bye-bye, just like your saves!
Think about it this way. You can back up your computer without paying a fee. You can do the same thing for your tablet or smartphone. All those console mentioned earlier? You've got options involving no fees, for every single one of them, except for this one. Nintendo Switch is the console that stands to benefit the most from having backups, and the one that arguably needs it the most due to its portability factor. But don't just take my word for it, here are some thoughts others in our community have on the matter. This is just here on Era, but similar sentiments can be found all around.
Backups should not be locked behind a paywall, period.
BUT WAIT, IT GETS EVEN WORSE!
The cloud saves that Nintendo are forcing us into paying for don't even work for all their games.
No game whether it be because the save file is to big or I might be able to exploit the game in some way should be unable to be backed up, its absurd.
I just cannot comprehend how Nintendo think this is an acceptable solution to a problem only they have its totally baffling.
So backups are paywalled and Nintendo doesn't even include the ability for backups in all games?
Greed. It's pure half-baked, anti-consumerist greed, and we can call it out as such.
I love Nintendo, and I'm certain a lot of you do too. Nintendo fans are amongst the most passionate game players on the planet, but we have to call out bad practices and anti-consumer trends for what they are. Other companies in the gaming industry have made questionable choice in years prior, but because people like you and me raised awareness, change came about. Look at the policy updates for the Xbox One after the E3 reveal, or the lootbox tweaks in games such as Battlefront II and Shadow of War, or even Nintendo themselves being more inclusive in Animal Crossing by adding new skin tone options after the limited ones in New Leaf. The point is that when awareness to an anti-consumer situation is raised, people take notice, and change CAN happen.
What we want is simple, and any of these 3 options would be acceptable.
- An update to allow the backing up of save data via microSD.
- An update to allow the backing up of save data via USB Mass Storage Devices.
- A free tier of the cloud storage feature of Nintendo Switch Online for all, removing the backup paywall.
Psycho_Mantis came up with #SAVETHESAVES, a brilliant, catchy hashtag! Use it and spread the word to tell Nintendo and the world that you just want to have peace of mind, without having to pay a fee for it. Tell them that a free option for backups is the only way to play fair! Be sure to link to http://bit.ly/SAVETHESAVESwhich links back here, so people can learn more about the issue and developments in this thread.
You can also retweet this tweet if you'd like.
Additionally, in another thread, someone mentioned this.
If your upset about Nintendo's online service plans as well as this roll out of the virtual console (if you can even call it that).
Then I encourage you to go to the news section on your Switch console and downvote (oh)
It's in the news section....
If you go to the console's news section and "downvote" their NSO PR, it sends Nintendo a direct message that you are not satisfied with their announcement, so take a moment to Oh. it on your system. Just another way of sending a message, albeit a more general one.
What Gaming Websites & Bloggers Are Saying About The Situation
Kotaku: Nintendo Fans Campaign For Switch Backup Saves
Polygon: Nintendo Switch remains the only console with no free backup saves
/r/NintendoSwitch on Reddit: Their thread and discussion on this very thread!
US Gamer: The Nintendo Switch's Cloud Save Paywall Has People Mad
YongYea: Why Switch Users are Pissed at Nintendo's Handling of Save Backups
So spread the word! Contact your favorite blog, use the graphic above on your own site, retweet the tweet, and remember to use #SAVETHESAVES. Together, we can do it!
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