Maybe it will just be called switch again but Nintendo will refer to it as the new switch
'Switch Again' is a good name, but may I suggest:
Maybe it will just be called switch again but Nintendo will refer to it as the new switch
It's entirely possible OG Switch gets a new mould and more robust joycons etc and Era melts down thinking it'd the ProAh I see. I hadn't really considered that to be honest. The WSJ and Mochizuki seem to suggest the "enhanced model" is still launching this year (or if not, still soon), so it would make sense for this model to be that enhanced model. CNET and Zhuge seem to say that no "pro" model is happening this year. Emily earlier in this thread seemed to suggest that this FCC filing is for the enhanced Switch she was talking about, with 2 new colors. Nothing has suggested it will see a major boost in processing, I was expecting anything between a 0% and 50% boost.
So to me this SoC update of the OG Switch fits as that rumored enhanced Switch. But I guess it's possible that it's something different. For that to be the case though, something's gotta give. Either the WSJ is wrong (about this year and/or about production of the enhanced Switch happening in June) or CNET/Bowser and Zhuge are wrong that it isn't happening this year.
Either way it'll be interesting to keep an eye on this.
It would be absolutely illogical to offer a performance bump by way of an unmarked box. Legally, they are boxed in on how they can market the product. By not updating the manual, they are saying that the system is just called Nintendo Switch. By stating that they swapped out the SOC and the eMMC but not other components, I don't see how you get the level of cooling to really clock this thing to the limits.
It is challenging to make the facts we have at hand here fit the Pro hole. I think it would be wiser to wait for further reporting before trying to make this system match up with past reporting - it doesn't appear to match up, which doesn't indicate that said reporting was inaccurate - just that said reporting didn't address this specific update.
If the new SoC is on 16/12nm as the Lite specs suggest, they don't need to. They can get more performance with the same exact level of heat and power, it's the whole point of a node shrink.
Theoretically, with the information at hand, they can still phase out the old model and introduce this new "Nintendo Switch" with some cosmetic changes, more memory and improved battery life and/or performance.
It fits with the request for change and here is your rumored "enhanced" model or Pro.
I am not sure what we are arguing on anymore to be honest.
Ps: btw, in the new request the model number (not the FCC ID) is slightly different, as in HAC-001(001) instead of just HAC-001 so it really is a minor revision for Nintendo as well.
It's entirely possible OG Switch gets a new mould and more robust joycons etc and Era melts down thinking it'd the Pro
Whatever the case, we know there is another Switch SKU out there. .my gut feel is it's not a slight facelift to OG Switch but a new Switch category.
They have the lite and the Switch flagship
A higher tier Switch makes sense
Maybe it will be advertised as switch revision or new switch but on the actual box and manual it will still just be called switchThe New 3DS has a matching manual stating 'New 3DS' as the product name as well as a new FCC ID in general, as it wasn't a revision. Here is that manual: https://fccid.io/BKEKTR001/User-Manual/Short-Term-Confidential-User-Manual-2399323.pdf
Here is the Switch manual: https://fccid.io/BKEHAC001/User-Manual/Users-manual01-3239293.pdf
This kind of stuff matters, legally. You can't play games with the manual. it has to reflect the product being sold.
They can absolutely get more performance for free with the die shrink, what I mean to say is that a better cooling system would enable them to extract even more out of it. They leave performance on the table otherwise.
Reason for this theory is Nvidia's deleted tweet (erroneously) hyping the Lite screen. Perhaps their PR dept. knows something and ended up mixing things up thinking that the announced Switch was the beefed up version.
Maybe it will be advertised as switch revision or new switch but on the actual box and manual it will still just be called switch
There was a nvidia tweet after the lite was announced? Didn't see itYou know what?
Crazy theory here, but I think the "Pro" will actually be a revision with a 1080p display and an upgraded SoC (perhaps X2) with undocked graphics running games at the same resolution of docked mode of vanilla Switch. This would require zero intervention from devs to update games to run at higher resolutions, although docked more would obviously benefit as well if they're keen to push it as a perhaps an "almost" 1440p system.
Reason for this theory is Nvidia's deleted tweet (erroneously) hyping the Lite screen. Perhaps their PR dept. knows something and ended up mixing things up thinking that the announced Switch was the beefed up version.
A man can dream.
Ah, you mean that by designing a new model instead of a simple revision they would have got the best out of the new chip?
I agree, but then again games still would have to target the OG Switch profiles so maybe this is the best course of action for the time being.
You know what?
Crazy theory here, but I think the "Pro" will actually be a revision with a 1080p display and an upgraded SoC (perhaps X2) with undocked graphics running games at the same resolution of docked mode of vanilla Switch. This would require zero intervention from devs to update games to run at higher resolutions while in portable mode since the OS can handle the trick to ask the game to render at docked resolutions, although docked more would obviously benefit as well if they're keen to push it as a perhaps an "almost" 1440p system.
Reason for this theory is Nvidia's deleted tweet (erroneously) hyping the Lite screen. Perhaps their PR dept. knows something and ended up mixing things up thinking that the announced Switch was the beefed up version.
A man can dream.
If I recall correctly they posted something about "the new 1080p screen of the new Switch" but deleted it quickly.There was a nvidia tweet after the lite was announced? Didn't see it
Speculation is exactly that - to come up with all possible scenarios. How are you so sure that they know absolutely nothing about it? Obviously my post is now on the satirical side of things but your word and Nvidia's PR have the exact same weight here.Nvidia PR doesn't know shit about shit. The tweet was just wrong, it shouldn't be used to speculate about Nintendo's plans.
If I recall correctly they posted something about "the new 1080p screen of the new Switch" but deleted it quickly.
Speculation is exactly that - to come up with all possible scenarios. How are you so sure that they know absolutely nothing about it? Obviously my post is now on the satirical side of things but your word and Nvidia's PR have the exact same weight here.
I just wouldn't be willing to pay another 300 for 1-2 hours of battery life and that's all I get. That's silly to me. If that's their plan on selling an upgraded switch to the masses.... good luck.Personally, I think Nintendo is going to leave performance specs the same for the "New" Switch in favor of a cooler, battery-sipping Switch. Battery life on the original Switch was the weakest part of the console, if Nintendo can boost that by 1-2 hours through a die-shrink, that's probably what they're going to do.
Or they got the revised model mixed up with the liteInteresting... maybe at one point they planned a 1080p screen on the Lite?
Random intern? Come on dude, going too far with the hot takes.Why would some random intern that mans the corporate Twitter account know anything about Nintendo's plans? What's more likely: that said intern (okay, social media manager, basically the same thing) knows about Nintendo's plans or that said intern assumed the original Switch had a 1080p screen and posted the wrong thing on Twitter dot com?
Random intern? Come on dude, going too far with the hot takes.
I agree it's probably nothing but to dismiss it like they did is just weird. They could, for instance, have kept the tweet by deleting it and tweeting again with the correct information. Also, back in 2017 their PR talked about the Switch as well by describing how it was powered by the X1, during the console's launch window.
You don't happen to have the list of profiles handy? I've been looking for it, but can't seem to find it.I suspect that this will also add an additional GPU/CPU profile that will be available to games on this model (modest - 10-20% bump in clocks, keep in mind the existing Switch already has 16 different performance profiles that developers can choose, with 4 being added in the 7.0.0 system update). I think the model will also launch with Witcher 3 (Will utilize the added profile) and will have a bundle with it. I'm basing it off this tweet, which doesn't guarantee anything, but at least hints at the possibility of a Witcher 3 bundle.
There are large 720p panels. Size is not the issue, it's pixel density and a 720p 6inche screen is perfectly fineA 720p screen is the last thing a "Pro" model needs if players hope for enhanced performance or graphics... The screen is so small, what's the point ?
Another thing, Nintendo could wait until they announce it before they request a name change, why would they risk leaking what the new system is called before they announce itI don't know how you market a product one way on TV and another way on store shelves. No one will have any idea as to what they bought.
You don't happen to have the list of profiles handy? I've been looking for it, but can't seem to find it.
I just wouldn't be willing to pay another 300 for 1-2 hours of battery life and that's all I get. That's silly to me. If that's their plan on selling an upgraded switch to the masses.... good luck.
I just wouldn't be willing to pay another 300 for 1-2 hours of battery life and that's all I get. That's silly to me. If that's their plan on selling an upgraded switch to the masses.... good luck.
For those familiar, This filling does it mean we can expect a release soon. Also what's the realistic difference this new 001 model will have to original
When do you think the new colors/revision will hit stores? I'm in the market for a new Switch.
Another thing, Nintendo could wait until they announce it before they request a name change, why would they risk leaking what the new system is called before they announce it
Hm, any revision coming with an actual performance increase would need additional performance profiles, as these all max out at 768Mhz GPU clock, which has been the docked GPU clock speed since launch. And I guess those 7.0.0+ profiles are the new temporary boost profiles already used on the 2017 model in BOTW and Mario Odyssey to speed up load times (= merely higher CPU clock while GPU stays at 768Mhz).
The other question here is the RAM. The FCC application doesn't mention new RAM chips and LPDDR4 maxes out at 1600Mhz. Would a revised Switch actually benefit from higher GPU clocks with the same RAM or wouldn't the latter act as a bottleneck?
I don't remember any console name leaking before it was announcedNintendo cannot control the inventory of every single store on earth, unless they want to offer buy backs. Which they don't - buy backs are to cleanse the shelves of Wii Us. They're expensive.
You know what?
Crazy theory here, but I think the "Pro" will actually be a revision with a 1080p display and an upgraded SoC (perhaps X2) with undocked graphics running games at the same resolution of docked mode of vanilla Switch. This would require zero intervention from devs to update games to run at higher resolutions while in portable mode since the OS can handle the trick to ask the game to render at docked resolutions, although docked more would obviously benefit as well if they're keen to push it as a perhaps an "almost" 1440p system.
Reason for this theory is Nvidia's deleted tweet (erroneously) hyping the Lite screen. Perhaps their PR dept. knows something and ended up mixing things up thinking that the announced Switch was the beefed up version.
A man can dream.
A 1080p screen running games at 1080p, not at 720p, if the theoretical SoC revision or replacement would be able to do so.Adding a 1080p screen would be a stupid decision when most games barely hit 720p. Wasted energy, processing power, and added cost for little benefit: just a very small % of games would run at 1080p. Games that today look great in 720p will suddenly look worse on a 1080p screen.
Nvidia posted this yesterday after the Switch Lite announcment. It was up for over 30 minutes before they deleted it.
A 1080p screen running games at 1080p, not at 720p, if the theoretical SoC revision or replacement would be able to do so.