[Nintendo] Mobile game Dragalia Lost, 50 Million in Revenue since September launch
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I'm actually curious about the breakdown of spending- are people motivated to spend on the monthly packs/increased stamina/increased rewards, or the gacha itself w/ limited time banners, etc., or is it a bit of both?
Obviously the answer is a little more complex than that since the monthly uncap packs also give gacha currency, but are in turn fed by shitty rates increasing the chance you'll need an uncap or two to get the most out of a median amount of luck, and the abysmal rates + pricing to begin with probably also help in making those monthly packs look 'good' in comparison for absolute value.
Obviously the answer is a little more complex than that since the monthly uncap packs also give gacha currency, but are in turn fed by shitty rates increasing the chance you'll need an uncap or two to get the most out of a median amount of luck, and the abysmal rates + pricing to begin with probably also help in making those monthly packs look 'good' in comparison for absolute value.
I only do 20ish pulls per banner with wyrmite (and only spend wyrmite on that + 2 smithwyrms) and have 12.8k (so that’s... 85 pulls) banked currently. Not to mention 21 free single tickets unused, as well as the extra 10 ticket they gave out due to the rates mistake. I have also not done the vast majority of adventurer stories I have access to, nor have I done more than a couple stages of hard mode, so there’s a lot left untapped there.
I will note that I’ve been extremely, extremely lucky with dragons lately (less so with adventurers, though I have gotten two 5*s), so reasonably people who are less lucky will have to pull more. But since you’re talking in terms of 20-30 per banner, which is exactly what I do, I can’t quite agree with this.
I will note that I’ve been extremely, extremely lucky with dragons lately (less so with adventurers, though I have gotten two 5*s), so reasonably people who are less lucky will have to pull more. But since you’re talking in terms of 20-30 per banner, which is exactly what I do, I can’t quite agree with this.
I think you’re always gonna have people who go extremely hard on 10 pulls, but I think it’s probably more the refresh and monthly packs that drives casual whaling, yeah?
I’d think unbinding 5* T3s in particular would be attractive but then again, you don’t really need that for much currently. Not that it’d stop people from going for it, or buying that and just saving it so they’d have the instant unbinds on hand if they ever need them.
I’d think unbinding 5* T3s in particular would be attractive but then again, you don’t really need that for much currently. Not that it’d stop people from going for it, or buying that and just saving it so they’d have the instant unbinds on hand if they ever need them.
I quit playing a few weeks ago despite enjoying the gameplay and having a lot of luck with 5* units with no money sunk into it (I think I had a 5* in every element). I'd never really played a gacha game before though and the daily commitments to the bonuses and stuff was becoming a drag and taking too much of my time, I felt... I did like the main story missions and the special events, but constantly doing Avenue of Power etc was such a drag.
I didn't bother with them much. I just use the free three skip tickets daily if there are no new content. I do try to play with all the new characters once so I did mostly got all the daily bonus till now even if it's the beginner or standard bonuses. Game is still OK so far, let's see if it will last me till S2 of the main story.
Damn, doing well. I've stuck with this longer than I'd anticipated as a gacha skeptic. Play at least a little bit every day and have gotten lucky with my rolls. Def a grind but it's designed for short sessions over the long term, if I hit a wall I can put it down.
Spent some money but game is easy and playable without, you can stock up a nice amount of currency and free pull tickets for when you need them. Low drop rates help with self control too. The story is pure fluff IMO and there's F2P mechanics in there, if you can't deal with that at all I wouldn't recommend, but I still dig the core gameplay and systems which goes a long way. Will be interesting to see how it evolves once we start having to build multi-element teams, lots of room for additional depth depending on the roadmap.
Spent some money but game is easy and playable without, you can stock up a nice amount of currency and free pull tickets for when you need them. Low drop rates help with self control too. The story is pure fluff IMO and there's F2P mechanics in there, if you can't deal with that at all I wouldn't recommend, but I still dig the core gameplay and systems which goes a long way. Will be interesting to see how it evolves once we start having to build multi-element teams, lots of room for additional depth depending on the roadmap.
Trash rates? Just the other week ago I pulled both Mirabelle and Hildegarde in one Tenfold. I usually don't do the single summon as its a waste of wyrmite. Of course the game will sometimes give you the 5* wyrmprint every now and then with dupes, but then again I tend to also put importance on prints since some already put meter into your dragon transformation.
Also people are really underselling the 4-star units by a lot. I actually prefer some of them to the 5-stars.
Play with a styuls. Learn focus attacks.
Also people are really underselling the 4-star units by a lot. I actually prefer some of them to the 5-stars.
Play with a styuls. Learn focus attacks.
The game has had it's hooks in me since release, but being Canadian, I might be done with it until they do a release here. It's annoying to try and pay into it (would need to use US gift cards) and I've had my nintendo account set to US for the last little while to save my progress, which I'd rather not do.
Haven't decided yet but we'll see. The sunk cost fallacy is pretty powerful stuff.
Haven't decided yet but we'll see. The sunk cost fallacy is pretty powerful stuff.
Yes, trash rates. You getting lucky on a pull doesn't change the fact that the rates are trash. Hard numbers are not changed by your personal lucky anecdote: 0.5% featured character, 0.5% non-featured character. 1% chance. And your pity will not build much thanks to sharing the pool with stupid wyrmprints that get double the rate, as well as dragons with the same rate.
Compare that to FE:H: 3% featured character, 3% non-featured character. And you'll only be pitybroken by a 5* character. You're 1/6th as likely in DL to get a 5* character. And at percentages that low, it's really easy to run into an insane unlucky streak.
So yes, trash rates.
Compare that to FE:H: 3% featured character, 3% non-featured character. And you'll only be pitybroken by a 5* character. You're 1/6th as likely in DL to get a 5* character. And at percentages that low, it's really easy to run into an insane unlucky streak.
So yes, trash rates.
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After 10 summons, pity rates increase the odds of the featured 5-stars by 0.25% total, meaning that's split between featured characters, wyrmprints, and dragons, so divide that by 4 to get the increase to featured 5* characters: 0.0625% increase for every 10 summons. And there's a 75% chance of being pitybroken by a dragon or wyrmprint. The same pity rate is true for non-featured 5* characters.
By comparison, FE:H increases pity after only 5 summons, and it increases it by 0.25%, but that is not split between characters and other stuff, it's all to characters.
So to answer your question, no, the pity rates are trash too.
By comparison, FE:H increases pity after only 5 summons, and it increases it by 0.25%, but that is not split between characters and other stuff, it's all to characters.
So to answer your question, no, the pity rates are trash too.
Nope. The soundtrack is really good but the gameplay is whatever. The levels aren't fun and is more of a chore to do. The harder level bosses are the only ones that require strategy but before you can even fight them you need to grind a lot or spend real money to buy upgrade materials. The art on wymprints are great. The gatcha is fun and the developers are pretty generous with giving out free pulls.
With all that said, I've put a lot of hours into it even though the gameplay is whatever. It's more cause it's convenient to play, I suppose.
With all that said, I've put a lot of hours into it even though the gameplay is whatever. It's more cause it's convenient to play, I suppose.
