There is a weird dichotemy on this board between Dont sexualize the women!/Don't censor the sexualized women in my japanese games!!!
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Nintendo of Japan apologizes for not telling customers that TMS #FE Encore is based on altered Western version of the original, offering full refunds
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Why did Nintendo even risk going with the controversy in the first place? Did they really think people in Japan would just be fine with it?
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Yeah, sorry about that. I'll get the title changed to say the "altered western version" if that is any better?
How is this a power play exactly? All this is gonna do is make an already niche game sell even worse. If this was supposed to be there attempt to have more control over the content in their games they picked a really shitty game to start with.
Personally I think the western version was probably just the most convenient one they had access to and used it to develop Encore.
Oh wow, the changes were that bad? That's not sexualization, that's a normal wedding dress...
Imo there was no real audience for this in japan for the Wii U, unlike now for the switch but this being a thing will put off a handful of buyers
Really?
Because I guess the localizers must suck at their jobs if we compare this games sales to the comparatively unaltered Xenoblade 2's.
I wonder if that's because it's the game someone here (at least I think is was here. Or back on GAF?) mentioned that had the sexy stuff added because management was afraid their otaku crowd won't buy it and the west got what was originally supposed to be. They didn't name it, but that was the most common guess in the replies IIRC.
Nah. It just they didn't port Genei Ibunroku ♯FE but port&localized Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE instead XD
Well said. Fully agree. Game deserves much better than being at the centre of this rather silly controversy.
I have to say, there's some creepy stuff in those complaints, but seeing that, If I wanted to paly the game, I'd become an activist for anti-censorship too. The fuck is that lol.
Nice. Getting rid of this creepy stuff in all versions of the game makes me more interested in it, not less.
Don't worry we are just disgusting perverts who need our vagina bones...
It's so obvious some people in this thread probably saw one tweet about them censoring an underage looking girl and then say "boo hoo your underage girl is covered" as if that's where the censorship ends. More shit was censored than that people, you all look foolish.
they apologize to Japanese fan for lack of information that the game gonna use western version.
Well that's the point. If you want a "definitive version" to sell more than on a dead console, why would you base it on the most controversial version you have?
My take on the whole "censorship" thing:
Thing is, I enjoyed the game for what it was on the Wii U. I really don't care about the whole bikini DLC thing, especially if they're 17 year of age. To me, the changes made to the Western version were fine. The story was fun, the gameplay worked really well. I am not fine with sexualizing under age characters anyway.
Fan-service hasn't done anything for me for years now, and it always comes across as trying too hard. It makes it obnoxious an annoying at one point. So yeah, I intend to pick up the game on the Switch. For me, nothing has changed compared to my previous experience anyway.
Thing is, I enjoyed the game for what it was on the Wii U. I really don't care about the whole bikini DLC thing, especially if they're 17 year of age. To me, the changes made to the Western version were fine. The story was fun, the gameplay worked really well. I am not fine with sexualizing under age characters anyway.
Fan-service hasn't done anything for me for years now, and it always comes across as trying too hard. It makes it obnoxious an annoying at one point. So yeah, I intend to pick up the game on the Switch. For me, nothing has changed compared to my previous experience anyway.
What other examples of censorship does the game feature that don't involve stamping out sexualization of young girls?
No, the changes weren't that bad. The wedding dress edit is the only one that has me scratching my head. The other changes are fine (and generally an improvement IMO).
I had lots of fun with the Wii U version. This stuff I never even thought about when I played the game. It's a really good game.
Sounds more appropriate to me.
What does one thing have to do with the other?!
That's not the point. We just want to see the game as it's intended. I can't read Japanese and never played the game, but in the Censored Gaming video it shows a wall full of girls in bikinis. Is that related to the story? Is someone like obsessed with them and collects their pictures or something?
The title is incredibly inaccurate.
NCL apologized because they provided misleading informations about this version of the game when the preload went live. They've apologized because of this and offers refund to people who wouldn't have pre-ordered the game because it's based on the western version.
They're not apologizing because the game is based on the western version.
NCL apologized because they provided misleading informations about this version of the game when the preload went live. They've apologized because of this and offers refund to people who wouldn't have pre-ordered the game because it's based on the western version.
They're not apologizing because the game is based on the western version.
This looks terrible. Like if you're gonna censor then at least make it look good.
Oh wow, the Japanese incels sure have been angry on 2ch.
Like, I don't even understand the changes from a sales-perspective. They could have used it being the unaltered version as one of the sales pitches for the game.
I know, that's what I'm saying. Why can't they keep that in for all versions like they're doing now, but make it so the game's other changes are a toggle?
Well presumably the port was started from the censored version, probably because it's less work than porting 2 versions, or removing the content again so having a toggle kind of defeats that purpose (as they'd have to do the work it seems they intentionally wanted to avoid)
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"Nintendo of Japan apologizes for not telling customers that Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore is based on altered Western version of the original, offering full refunds"
That a better title?
Yeah changing entire products or not being able to release them due to the government or undermining others free speech is totally the same as a Company deciding themselves not to be total creeps and make reasonable adjustments for different countries with different cultures and societies
This thread is becoming a real facepalm mine, full of people throwing around the word "CENCORSHIIIIiiiP" and those wanting to look at boobs and panties of underaged Anime girls
Referring to this viral tweet.
Oh my god
Looking at some of these "censorship" I would complain because it's so badly made lol.
That's actually the reaction over a Star Ocean 5 character getting less-sexy underwear 'in Fear of Western Criticism'.
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It's a dumb meme from some subs of a long forgotten anime, they were very loose and irrevant with how they translated things some times
Calling this censorship is funny. But frankly all the people mad about this can stay mad and kick rocks. Game bombed on first release Japan or otherwise. Game wasnt appealing, that's why it sold like shit. Play the Japanese WiiU version if you need you girls lying on benches and your bikini DLC.
If the goal of these changes is to make the game sell better then why did this game bomb(and will likely bomb again) compared t the less altered game?
Claiming this is "localization" never made sense to me because these kind of changes are not the norm in western releases, not even Nintendo ones lately.
Yup. Although if I was picky, "Nintendo of Japan" is not a thing. It's just Nintendo, or NCL (for Nintendo co. Ltd).
Iirc the director from atlus was surprised that the game got change on the western release and was disappointed with it and with this rerelease he can't do jack shit to change that.. and pretty much all this gonna do is not make the game sell as much as possible... imo they should have just made a different build all together
White dress stays, and please don't make it look like maiko's
giving the photographer a blowjob
I honestly find people bothered by this creepy because if you are bothered by the fact that they removed panty shots and altered scantily clad outfits of teenagers their is something seriously wrong with you.