What about N64, GBA, DS, Game Boy, GBC, GameCube and other legacy systems game appearing on Switch too? I'm not buying their online service until it gets much, much better.
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Nintendo reconfirms NES/SNES Classic will be gone after holidays, Switch Online main place for legacy content moving forward
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Yeah. That screen is perfect for SNES games in particular. I just hope Nintendo isn't antsy on killing the Eshop like they were on killing the Wii Shop.
I'm surprised at how many people prefer an a la carte model as opposed to a subscription service. Sure, the way Nintendo is doing the subscription service (3 titles per month) is stupid, but I think the model works better in general for these things.
It will be interesting to see what happens when they get to the SNES. Surely we're not going to still only get 3 games a month. Obviously it should be a lot more, but if they got to a stage where they were doing say, 3 NES + 3 SNES + 3 GBA + 2 N64 it's starting to look better.
It will be interesting to see what happens when they get to the SNES. Surely we're not going to still only get 3 games a month. Obviously it should be a lot more, but if they got to a stage where they were doing say, 3 NES + 3 SNES + 3 GBA + 2 N64 it's starting to look better.
Absolutely zero issues with that. Besides the fact that we can't BUY the legacy games on Switch, and because they're offering them as incentives for Switch Online, we aren't getting nearly the breadth of legacy content we would if they were selling it. So that's a huge bummer.
But, yeah, I'm more than okay with the demise of the classic consoles.
But, yeah, I'm more than okay with the demise of the classic consoles.
While the three games per-month thing is bad right now, if they keep that up as they add more and more systems, eventually we'll have a very healthy service with a good amount of games releasing every month. For now, it's just about patience.
I mean, even if it's three mario games at first, those surprise games have been undeniably good picks. I could see some good SNES games coming.
I remember when they launched VC on the Wii and I thought it'd be a netflix-like service where they'd have their entire libraries. And maybe add online mp.
In my defence I was young then…
I mean it makes a lot of sense. The "classic" line was a response to the tanking Wii U and a nice distraction and revenue earner. Now they have a system that is going incredibly well they'll get more by using the classic games as a way to encourage online memberships and also push them onto the extras like the wireless NES controllers.
Wake me when Nintendo Switch Online gets SNES games just as promised. Those NES games aren't worth it.
No they're talking about the games you get through Nintendo Switch Online.
Yeah. The Virtual Console is an amazing concept and now Nintendo has decided they don't want to do it anymore. It's just criminal. It was also a big part of Satoru Iwata's legacy and they're just throwing it away. And even this has some defenders and apologists.
This is still like my #1 pipe dream game for Nintendo to do.
I mean this is pretty much a given. I did think they were going to release the N64 classic first however.
I think in the January Direct they're going to announce SNES games.
You get a DRM subscription or you get nothing. NOTHING!!!!
I suggest you get a New 2DS XL and scoop up any games you want before they're gone.
I feel like the Virtual Console is looked back on with rose colored glasses. In the post Wii era the Virtual Console featured:
- a trickle feed (just like the online service)
- mediocre emulation (both the classic consoles and the NES games on the Switch are emulated better)
- high prices per game (compared to either the online service, the classic consoles or what third parties are doing with compilations)
- a diminishing library each generation (Wii was the peak)
- no way to share purchased games even with your own 3DS (meanwhile everyone on my $35 family plan can play the same NES games)
Personally I don't think the Switch Online service gets compared fairly to what the Virtual Console actually was in its last implementation (aka the Wii U). I feel like people either compared it to peak Virtual Console (so Wii era) or some fantasy technically possible Virtual Console people make up in their heads that has amazing emulation and every classic Nintendo game they ever wanted is offered for a great price (aka something like a legitimate retropie setup).
And I am not trying to dismiss the valid concerns, as there are many, but I feel like its equivelent to blaming all the problems in Bethesda games on an "engine." What people want isn't a reboot of the Wii U Virtual Console in most cases, they want Nintendo to do a better job of offering old content period.
What the hell? How does Virtual Console suddenly equate only to Wii U Virtual Console, on Nintendo's troubled and worst selling system? The 3DS Virtual Console is still available too and its latest (last?) releases were a lot more relevant than Wii U's. And it's not like nobody is allowed to think about Wii Virtual Console anymore just because Nintendo killed it.
Just because Virtual Console wasn't always perfect doesn't mean that the atrocity that is NOS is somehow made better in comparison.
Even at its best on the Wii the Virtual Console was frustrating. Then it was frustrating on the 3DS, and frustrating on the Wii U. I don't know why anybody would expect them to do it right on the Switch. Obviously I'd love it if every VC game I ever bought was playable on my Switch by virtue of being tied to my Nintendo account, but the last thing I want is a chance to give Nintendo $8 for Super Mario World again, then Link to the Past nine months later, then Mario 64 six months after that.
That's not how it worked in the Wii to Wii U transfer. The upgrade fee was actually really reasonable and you got to keep both copies of the game, one in the vWii and the other in the Wii U menu. That would be stratospherically better than what we have now.
Except you had to wait for the games to trickle out again before you could pay the reasonable upgrade fee if you didn't want to have to use the awkward Wii emulator (and have a sensor bar set up). The whole thing was a mess.
The best comparison for schedule/lineup so far is probably launch aligned.
Wii Virtual Console
Wii Virtual Console
- Donkey Kong (NES) Nintendo
- F-Zero (SNES) Nintendo
- The Legend of Zelda (NES) Nintendo
- Mario Bros. (NES) Nintendo
- Pinball (NES) Nintendo
- SimCity (SNES) Nintendo
- Soccer (NES) Nintendo
- Solomon's Key (NES) Tecmo
- Super Mario 64 (N64) Nintendo
- Wario's Woods (NES) Nintendo
- Donkey Kong Jr. (NES) Nintendo
- Ice Hockey (NES) Nintendo
- Tennis (NES) Nintendo
- Street Fighter II: The World Warrior (SNES) Capcom
- Super Castlevania IV (SNES) Konami
- Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
- Baseball (NES) Nintendo
- Urban Champion (NES) Nintendo
- Gradius (NES) Konami
- R-Type III: The Third Lightning (SNES) Jaleco
- Xevious (NES) Bandai Namco
- The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES) Nintendo
- Contra III: The Alien Wars (SNES) Konami
- Mario Kart 64 (N64) Nintendo
- Super Mario World (SNES) Nintendo
- Ice Climber (NES) Nintendo
- Kid Icarus (NES) Nintendo
- Kirby's Adventure (NES) Nintendo
- Alleyway (GB) Nintendo
- Radar Mission (GB) Nintendo
- Super Mario Land (GB) Nintendo
- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX (GBC) Nintendo
- Donkey Kong (GB) Nintendo
- Tennis (GB) Nintendo
- Kirby's Dream Land (GB) Nintendo
- Fortified Zone (GB) Jaleco
- Qix (GB) Nintendo
- Baseball (GB) Nintendo
- Game & Watch Gallery (GB) Nintendo
- Mario's Picross (GB) Nintendo
- Balloon Fight (NES) Nintendo
- Punch-Out!! (NES) Nintendo
- Kirby's Adventure (NES) Nintendo
- Balloon Fight (NES) Nintendo
- Baseball (NES) Nintendo
- Donkey Kong (NES) Nintendo
- Double Dragon (NES) Arc System Works
- Dr. Mario (NES) Nintendo
- Excitebike (NES) Nintendo
- Guosts 'n Goblins (NES) Capcom
- Gradius (NES) Konami
- Ice Climber (NES) Nintendo
- Ice Hockey (NES) Nintendo
- The Legend of Zelda (NES) Nintendo
- Mario Bros. (NES) Nintendo
- Pro Wrestling (NES) Nintendo
- River City Ransom (NES) Arc System Works
- Soccer (NES) Nintendo
- Super Mario Bros. (NES) Nintendo
- Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES) Nintendo
- Tecmo Bowl (NES) Koei Tecmo
- Tennis (NES) Nintendo
- Yoshi (NES) Nintendo
- NES Open Tournament Golf (NES) Nintendo
- Solomon's Key (NES) Koei Tecmo
- Super Dodge Ball (NES) Arc System Works
- Metroid (NES) Nintendo
- Mighty Bomb Jack (NES) Koei Tecmo
- TwinBee (NES) Konami
- Adventures of Lolo (NES) HAL Laboratory
- Ninja Gaiden (NES) Koei Tecmo
- Wario's Woods (NES) Nintendo
I got the SNES first and was kind of shocked at how much worse the NES version is. I've decided to just box my NES as a collector's item but I'm keeping the SNES Classic hooked up in my living room for years to come.
I was so excited for the SNES Classic until it was revealed the best game in its library was left out.
The thing is worthless without Chrono Trigger.
NES games were never good, the 8 bit era is rough.
The thing is worthless without Chrono Trigger.
NES games were never good, the 8 bit era is rough.
People expecting the Switch Online service to fulfill that retro fix must have never owned a Wii or WiiU. At the rate they normally go at with 3-5 games a month, the Switch will be replaced before they have a library even approaching what the Wii had.
I can see why they would hold back on production for the NES/SNES classic at this point considering they haven't been difficult for find for awhile now. I have two of each and think they are very neat to look at, and hopefully that continues with a N64 classic.
I can see why they would hold back on production for the NES/SNES classic at this point considering they haven't been difficult for find for awhile now. I have two of each and think they are very neat to look at, and hopefully that continues with a N64 classic.
Oh, so you had to use the sensor bar to play games that previously required the sensor bar? Oh boo hoo!
First you talked about the price, but when that didn't hold up, you instantly find something else to complain about. Are you complaining just for complaining's sake?
I was referring to how you needed a sensor bar just to boot into Wii mode to play VC games, unless I'm remembering wrong. The point is the whole approach was dumb and having to wait for the library to trickle out again before I could upgrade my VC games meant the console's lifespan was basically over by the time I had my collection all in one place.
I'm not saying what Nintendo us doing now is the answer, but the idea that if they just did Virtual Console again it would be great us ridiculous. At least now I get to try out some NES games that I would never spend $5 on individually.
Thinking about it, Nintendo should keep making these console here in Brazil, but they need to stop to charging $200 for each one...
Well one thing to remember is that we are also now getting lots of classic collections from other devs. VC is no longer the only channel for classic content on a Switch, so the drip feed isn't quite as much of an issue.
I'm hoping with Nintendo Switch Online they have been working on a future proof solution that will allow them to quickly port over the existing library over to the Switch's successor. But this being Nintendo, I have my doubts.
I wouldn't be against for the option to buy games individually. (No reason to be. Options are great). I think the $20 monthly fee is low enough to be worth it anyway though. Even if there are only one or two NES games you want to play now, that keeps you going for an entire year and who knows what else we will get.
I wouldn't be against for the option to buy games individually. (No reason to be. Options are great). I think the $20 monthly fee is low enough to be worth it anyway though. Even if there are only one or two NES games you want to play now, that keeps you going for an entire year and who knows what else we will get.
I could've sworn you can aim the Wiimote at the game pad thanks to an update.
It was so odd to me that it took until Wii U for us to get Duck Hunt when the novelty of IR aiming and the zapper would have fit better on Wii.
I definitely prefer the sub based library as opposed to buying things one at a time. I just don't understand why they're doing the drip feed thing rather than adding as much to the library as they can for immediate value. Is it a logistics deal? Like they just aren't able to get the rights to some of these games easily?