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spam musubi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah - I probably should have read more of this thread, i'm not here to defend games where you're rubbing kids. Both rubbing kids and shooting people in the face are objectively wrong though. It IS interesting that people are highly offended by child stuff but totally ok with violence. I'm not trying to defend either, but I do find it interesting there is nearly universal acceptance for violence but zero tolerance for creepy anime shit.

Every time we get these "I don't wanna defend pedophilia, but why don't we treat violence similarly? Just asking questions" posts
 

Polioliolio

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Nov 6, 2017
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Or just questionable games period.

Remember when everything was highly curated? You could almost count on every games coming to PS3's PSN or Steam was playable and possibly brilliant.
Now it's piles and piles of garbage that obscure even good games from recognition.
 

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not gonna lie, i would have preferred if nintendo didn't let literally everything to come to the eshop and there was some curation and quality control, but i get why they've left the flood gates open.
 

iamaustrian

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Nov 27, 2017
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Vita caught a lotta flak for its skeezy library. I think this is pretty well established.

Gotta say, I laugh every time I see the names of Vita homebrew/jailbreak tools, because those folks seem to have really leaned into that identity.

I know that it caught alot of flak but surely not only from "Ninty" fans.
The wording OP used makes him sound like a post-traumatic sega genesis fanboy still @ war with nintendo.
 

.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know that it caught alot of flak but surely not only from "Ninty" fans.
The wording OP used makes him sound like a post-traumatic sega genesis fanboy still @ war with nintendo.

Not getting that at all. But perhaps I enjoy the gentle ribbing/ self-deprecating humor since I own both and recognize the pattern.
 

Deleted member 8593

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The most frustrating part about many of these anime games is that occasionally one comes around that you feel might be interesting like To All Mankind

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Which is basically a very low-budget female-only survival game in a post-apocalyptic Akihabara. And you see the art and it's like "sure, I'll give this a chance, maybe it will surprise me!" and then you look at screens and it's like

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_002.jpg


"ok this is very low budget but that's okay, those can be good as well"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_029.jpg


"look at them working together, this is very precious"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_033.jpg


"... i mean this is a difficult situation and everyone needs human intimacy"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_02-21-19_032.jpg


"oh no"



To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_031.jpg

"OH NO"

So basically, regardless of how I ever felt about anime or anime aesthetics, nowadays it's almost always a massive red flag.
 

PontyfaxJr

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Oct 28, 2017
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I remember reading an import review of a DS game in a UK Nintendo magazine where you had to poke little girls to see if they were witches. It scored a NO/100 and they riffed on 'Witch Touching' for months.

Ah, I miss NGamer.
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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Which is so SAD it still lack major franchises that vita had no problem getting but .... 2019 and all. I guess we will see what E3 holds.
That goes both ways though. Vita never got mainline Elder Scrolls, Doom, NBA 2K, Diablo, Crash, Sonic, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, Yokai Watch, etc.

The only "major" 3rd party IP Vita seemed to get that Switch hasn't yet are just COD, Borderlands and Metal Gear. Two of those were Sony financed and the other was only a set of remasters. Vita very much had a problem in this area and to a demonstrably greater degree than Switch.
 

Nathan.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really care, good for people who like that. But I would definitely welcome games of the same scope as Muramasa, Ys, Persona portable etc. VITA has some good titles. That's why I'm still using mine !
 

Alex

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Oct 27, 2017
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The most frustrating part about many of these anime games is that occasionally one comes around that you feel might be interesting like To All Mankind

20190411_021020_thumb.jpg


Which is basically a very low-budget female-only survival game in a post-apocalyptic Akihabara. And you see the art and it's like "sure, I'll give this a chance, maybe it will surprise me!" and then you look at screens and it's like

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_002.jpg


"ok this is very low budget but that's okay, those can be good as well"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_029.jpg


"look at them working together, this is very precious"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_033.jpg


"... i mean this is a difficult situation and everyone needs human intimacy"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_02-21-19_032.jpg


"oh no"



To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_031.jpg

"OH NO"

So basically, regardless of how I ever felt about anime or anime aesthetics, nowadays it's almost always a massive red flag.

The kind of tame fan service fluff they can put in console games is difficult for me to get upset over. Lot less offense to than the extreme violence and gore that is routinely put on trade show streams.

But that's my view, some think the same others think differently.

What the console store fronts should be doing is applying tag systems like Steam and letting people filter things they do not want to see. Content qualms aside maybe you really hate puzzle games for some reason? Should be able to filter anything, IMO.
 

Scarlet Spider

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Yeah - I probably should have read more of this thread, i'm not here to defend games where you're rubbing kids. Both rubbing kids and shooting people in the face are objectively wrong though. It IS interesting that people are highly offended by child stuff but totally ok with violence. I'm not trying to defend either, but I do find it interesting there is nearly universal acceptance for violence but zero tolerance for creepy anime shit.

Of course it's wrong. Anyways, from what I've learned is that kids generally aren't interested in these types of games. It's mostly older teens to adults. Kids are interested in shooters. Doesn't matter if they're 6 years old or 15, they will always go for the shooter game to play with their friends. ESRB means nothing since parents don't really care given how many of them are on their mic, making YT videos or just talking about it irl. Hell back when I worked at Best Buy in the gaming department most of my customer's kids went for Call of Duty or whatever shooter was hot. Despite telling the parents the age rating and contents, the kid got what they wanted by begging. It's kids and teens that actively play these violent games.

Though I can sorta understand since I enjoyed violent video games as a minor simply because I found it cool and funny. Video game violence is just something that's become amusing or a non issue for some nowadays.
 

iamaustrian

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Nov 27, 2017
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This didn't stop Terminator releasing on the NES.

Because it has nothing to do with the game (software) itself.
Like someone already posted before, the nintendo sign of quality is just to make sure it doesn't set your house on fire.

It basicly stands for a licensed, tested and approved piece of hardware (the cartridge).
There were tons of unlicensed garbage games in flimsy, NES connector damaging cases during the 8bit era after all.
 

Driver

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Oct 27, 2017
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Of course it's wrong. Anyways, from what I've learned is that kids generally aren't interested in these types of games. It's mostly older teens to adults. Kids are interested in shooters. Doesn't matter if they're 6 years old or 15, they will always go for the shooter game to play with their friends. ESRB means nothing since parents don't really care given how many of them are on their mic, making YT videos or just talking about it irl. Hell back when I worked at Best Buy in the gaming department most of my customer's kids went for Call of Duty or whatever shooter was hot. Despite telling the parents the age rating and contents, the kid got what they wanted by begging. It's kids and teens that actively play these violent games.

Though I can sorta understand since I enjoyed violent video games as a minor simply because I found it cool and funny. Video game violence is just something that's become amusing or a non issue for some nowadays.

Thats a good point, I never really thought about the age of the people that are playing these games.
 

Thuddert

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think it's even more dangerous, because the switch is a family friendy device.

So to have not only skeevy material, but straight pedobait on it is not a great look.
 

Komo

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I think it's even more dangerous, because the switch is a family friendy device.

So to have not only skeevy material, but straight pedobait on it is not a great look.
But the switch has parental settings that hide and won't allow access to these things if they are enabled.
 

P-Tux7

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Mar 11, 2019
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Yeah, Nintendo is really tarnishing their family friendly image by allowing this garbage on their platform.
Family friendly image? What about Bayonetta?

Also, this isn't just "mature content" that is anti family friendly. It is trashy content that objectifies women over men, which not even an adult should take enjoyment in.
I know "porn isn't supposed to educate", but at the same time it has the responsibility to remind you of the humanity of women, and how a great personality is just as attractive a feature of a woman as having big boobs or ass.
This is exactly why anime and games can take advantage of the waifu phenomenon - it is much more wholesome to like a character's personality AND appearance, because that is how you should do it in real life.

Also, just saying, if some porn/"sexy game"(DOA Volleyball) releases (in video or game form) can't do that, maybe those ones ARE objectifying and sexist.
 

john_ick

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Dec 4, 2018
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not gonna lie, i would have preferred if nintendo didn't let literally everything to come to the eshop and there was some curation and quality control, but i get why they've left the flood gates open.

Why?
Adults can make own choice what we want to buy.
Adults do not need multinational corporation doing sort of "screening" for us.
Yes, it takes more time; but remember, one person's trashes is another person's value.
 

foxuzamaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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The most frustrating part about many of these anime games is that occasionally one comes around that you feel might be interesting like To All Mankind

20190411_021020_thumb.jpg


Which is basically a very low-budget female-only survival game in a post-apocalyptic Akihabara. And you see the art and it's like "sure, I'll give this a chance, maybe it will surprise me!" and then you look at screens and it's like

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_002.jpg


"ok this is very low budget but that's okay, those can be good as well"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_029.jpg


"look at them working together, this is very precious"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_033.jpg


"... i mean this is a difficult situation and everyone needs human intimacy"

To-All-of-Mankind_2019_02-21-19_032.jpg


"oh no"



To-All-of-Mankind_2019_03-14-19_031.jpg

"OH NO"

So basically, regardless of how I ever felt about anime or anime aesthetics, nowadays it's almost always a massive red flag.
Thats all?
 

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Yeah I'm not sure this To All Mankind is relevant to the specific issues people are taking with games like the sort mentioned in the OP. Those are adults, for one thing, surely?

Fuck off with that. I'm not defending anything. It's ok to talk about why one thing is acceptable and one thing is taboo. I had University ethics class that discussed this very thing.

I mean I don't really like the COD series either but, I mean, it's the only one being brought up in this thread that has the support of the American MIC behind it
 

Tayaya

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Oct 31, 2017
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I swear to god not every anime porn game is "Pedobait" guys

100% this. I guess one positive about this thread is that it brought to light that there is a "banned" games list - I honestly didn't know that we had such a thing in place, and while I would generally disagree with the concept of banning meaningful discussion, some of the games on that list are pretty worthy of not being mentioned again.

I do collect games like this, though, because they exist in a weird "these are the kinds of games that kept western publishers from bringing more stuff over in the 90's" space in gaming history, and on some levels I find the over the top innuendo entertaining and funny (which is a far cry from "arousing" which seems to be what everyone is worried about). I've got the school-based rail shooters and the original "bumping scratch" game, and I actually enjoy both for what they are, as does my fiance. I don't disagree with the decision to censor some of the ones that got censored though.

I'm glad I can pick up games like this on the switch, and am glad that they are put on the shop without any fanfare or formal listing - they're there if you want them but they aren't being paraded around for kids to look at and buy. I think that's a good way to handle it.
 

Bird

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Dec 7, 2017
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Florida
I swear to god not every anime porn game is "Pedobait" guys
Some people will say a character is underage even if they are and look more "adult" than real life adults, just cause it wasn't drawn western-style.

There is probably a lot of overlap between those people and people who had a prominent "japanimation" section at their Blockbuster growing up.
 

Madao

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Oct 26, 2017
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what does the OP want? Nintendo to start turning away 3rd party games and get back in the hole they've been wanting to get out since the SNES days regarding 3rd party support?

if you really are against the games, don't buy them. the games bombing will make them stop getting made eventually.
 

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what does the OP want? Nintendo to start turning away 3rd party games and get back in the hole they've been wanting to get out since the SNES days regarding 3rd party support?

so, uh
Did stuff like Criminal Girls become a tentpole release game when I wasn't looking? I thought that shit was the niche-iest of niches

inb4 "well, for a certain definition of tentpole release"