Nintendo Switch Lite announced at $199, launches September 20th, "dedicated handheld" (smaller, has D-Pad, has gyro, no HD Rumble, no dock/TV output)

Which colour Nintendo Switch Lite is your favourite?

  • Grey

    Votes: 653 19.7%
  • Yellow

    Votes: 736 22.1%
  • Turquoise

    Votes: 1,197 36.0%
  • Pokémon Sword and Shield Edition

    Votes: 737 22.2%

  • Total voters
    3,323

Rei no Otaku

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,046
Cranston RI
This definitely isn't for me. I play my Switch docked and handheld and don't see the point in a version that can't do both. On the other hand, my wife really wants the new Animal Crossing and this would probably be a good choice for her since she still plays her 3DS a lot.
 

Vivian-Pogo

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Jan 9, 2018
977
..Well Era is more negative on this than I was expecting. A $200 Nintendo Switch Portable is a slam dunk imo. 3DS launched at $250 and the Switch specs are several generations ahead compared to that 240p mess.
 

KoopaSwitch

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Jan 17, 2018
1,163
Waiting to see if GameSrop does a trade in deal for for this. Gotta dump my One S and hoping for a pretty even swap.
 

Archduke Kong

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Feb 2, 2019
245
Two problems I see with this:

1) Most people are not going to check to see if the games that use joy con only will work with the system without extra joy con or not. “Check the back of the box” isn’t going to work. I really hope they come up with a better solution to that, or there’s gonna be a lot of angry parents around Christmas when they get their kid this and Super Mario Party.

2) $200 seems EXPENSIVE considering the price of a regular Switch and the missing features. It doesn’t connect to a TV and doesn’t have HD Rumble or the IR sensor. If you want to buy a pair of joy cons for certain games or for multiplayer, that’s going to run you an extra $70. That brings it up to almost $270 and at that point, you might as well get the one that lets you connect to the TV if you change your mind for $30 more if that’s your plan. (I’ll admit that’s not who they’re targeting but since they’re giving you the option to sync the joy con, it’s worth pointing out).

Otherwise, pretty cool! Lowers the barrier to entry for people who never plan to dock the thing, the D-pad is a nice feature, longer battery. I don’t plan on getting one myself (I play handheld usually but I like being able to remove the controller at anytime if someone wants to play Smash, plus after getting a 1080p TV I’ve been playing some games docked more often) but it’ll be cool to see these out in the wild.

Also the colors are giving me major DS Lite vibes. Good stuff.
 

Raijinto

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Oct 28, 2017
6,996
Yeah, I think for me it's pretty ideal as I didn't really use any of those kinds of features and I can dig a smaller screen (extra pixel density!), but it's basically removed every feature that made the Switch unique. Some will say they've just stripped out the gimmicks, but it's surprising nonetheless.
TBH the portability was always the most important USP and that's still fine here. Better than ever even. And it looks like that uniqueness will continue long into the future considering the complete lack of any other dedicated portable gaming devices.
 

delete12345

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Nov 17, 2017
5,720
There's only one thing concerning me with this, the Switch portable play already leaves me with cramp in my hands.

This is smaller, with a longer battery life, I'm guessing this is targeting the younger gamer...
I think you can still pair Pro controllers to Switch Lite. Was it confirmed you can't pair Pro controllers?
 

Batatina

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Oct 25, 2017
2,342
Edinburgh, UK
This doesn’t make me want to sell my Switch and buy it, but if I was a new customer I would absolutely get this one. It’s just more handy for portable.
 

LewieP

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
7,441
We really are lucky to have so many hardware engineers that know more than Nintendo in this thread.
 

MXT

Banned
May 13, 2019
646
It's going to be embarrassing when this thing gets hacked and SciresM enables HDMI-out by patching a single byte.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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User banned (one day): System wars.

Linde

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Sep 2, 2018
2,338
awesome
if i were to get a second switch i would get one of these to take on the go, if you could have all games and saves shared between the consoles
 

Eoin

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Oct 27, 2017
1,077
This is my obligatory comment lamenting that the Wii U didn't sell at least enough for that wireless streaming tech to be affordable enough to be used between this and whatever enhanced version they're working on
The "wireless streaming tech" in the Wii U was just a dedicated wireless card in the console that talked to a dedicated wireless card in the controller, plus some software for encoding and decoding and handling data control.

It'd have been totally doable in the Switch if Nintendo were willing to dump two wireless cards in it.

It'd technically still be doable, if Nintendo thought that people would be willing to accept their Switch (and Switch Lite) being offline while streaming.

I think the most likely reason that there won't be any such functionality is that people mostly don't want it.

That seems like an absurd amount of functionality to give up to save $100.
It's not about saving US$100 though. It's about reaching a price point that makes the console available to people who it wouldn't have been available to at US$300.

I dunno, I kind of expected it to be smaller. DS Lite-tier redesign it ain't. I was thinking about getting one and using the cloud save feature to keep saves consistent, but it doesn't look like something I need.
The size makes sense I think. I understand the argument for smaller size from a historical perspective, because every Nintendo handheld has had one (or all) form factors with a screen smaller than this, but Nintendo will probably have considered the proliferation of 5.5-inch+ devices, the popularity of the larger DS and 3DS models, the resolution of the screen and need to account for more detailed HUD elements (some games have text that's bordering on too small on a 6.2-inch screen - that'll suck on a 5.5-inch screen but would have been even worse on something much smaller).

It's probably also getting trickier to source good-quality 720p displays in smaller sizes.

Can you use a Nintendo Switch Lite as a controller for another Switch?
No one else is answering this as far as I can see, so I'll give my guess that you can't. I'd expect that the Switch Lite will pretty much have the functionality of a current Switch so won't be usable as a controller for another Switch. Maybe they'll add that in future as a general update though.

The size difference is negligible as fuck when you account for the tablet and the 2nd joycon, which leaves me wondering: what exactly is the point of this version? 200 dollars is still pricey for the segment that you're going after (especially when they bought the 2DS for much cheaper than $200), and the elimination of features makes this arguably a worse value proposition than if you simply bought the base model.
I'm not sure why you'd account for a tablet and 2nd Joycon. There'll be people who get everything that they need from this model - they won't feel the need to account for functionality that is extraneous to them.

US$200 might still be pricey for them, yes. I'm not sure what you'd suggest as a solution to that though. There's not much scope for cutting other stuff, they're down to pretty much the bare essentials with this. They will probably aim to reach lower prices eventually.
 

Beje

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Oct 27, 2017
2,332
Seriously? You're missing the point. If I could buy a $200 lite and have it dock, even if the game doesn't act like it's in docked mode on a regular Switch, it would be very useful and I'm still wondering why the eff the removed that feature when it served pretty much no purpose of savings.
Trust me, you don't want to see a game dropping below 540p in a big screen. It looks horrible. Like, connecting an old console to a LCD TV with composite and 480i resolution kind of horrible.
 

steviejd1

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Nov 8, 2017
5,581
It's going to be embarrassing when this thing gets hacked and SciresM enables HDMI-out by patching a single byte.
Seeing as there's no public hack for even ipatched Switch's you'll be waiting a while...

Yes, and a dock can have a fan in it. The differential is not massive, and the Switch lite can just run at handheld mode on a TV if it really has to (it does not).
External cooling does not have the same effect on thermals at all.
 
Oct 26, 2017
4,151
To you. To you.

$199 means this will sell with Pokemon this Holiday season. It will outsell the normal Switch, PS4 and Xbox One. It will make Nintendo money and kids happy.
No, this isn't to me, this is based on what we know objectively about both systems.

Also, bold claim to make considering that the 3DS (most recent example) had each new iteration that sold less than the previous. Especially when you ignore the fact that the Switch right now is at 35mil sold. Pokemon and Animal Crossing by themselves, are not enough to surpass 35 million units sold (most like 40mil now considering the information was released in April).
 

Thera

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Feb 28, 2019
748
This thing absolutely will dock with a new dock if they still have the USB-C port and the two indents on the bottom to line it up.
The two indents are really weird, yes. Maybe for protection case.
I already have a switch and the lite is perfect for my GF. But she wants to be able to play Pokemon on TV if she wants, and there is no easy solution to do it.
The save system is really a problem every time you need it.
 

Shion

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Nov 8, 2017
94
Since this is handheld-only, I hope the Switch Pro is TV-only.

Please, don't inflate the price with batteries, giant touch screens and portable aspects that I'm never going to use.
 

Kito

Member
Nov 6, 2017
828
If this charges via USB-C is there a chance that third-party dock replacements could actually work to display it on TV?

If so, I'm buying my second Switch. If not, I don't think I have a use for this, because I can't even cloud save Pokemon games to use one Switch as a home console and one as a portable, right?
 

byDoS

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Oct 25, 2017
3,683
Seriously? You're missing the point. If I could buy a $200 lite and have it dock, even if the game doesn't act like it's in docked mode on a regular Switch, it would be very useful and I'm still wondering why the eff the removed that feature when it served pretty much no purpose of savings.
Because they want you to spend your money on the product with more added value and better ROI. Wait for the Pro or buy an OG one.

The Mini is just not for you.
 

RyanG

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Nov 1, 2017
647
God damn all three of those "base" colours make it look absolutely hideous. The Pokemon one is mildly better but the weirdly coloured buttons and sticks make it stand out for the wrong reasons.

I totally get the idea and the appeal of making a dedicated handheld version of a console in which the whole point was you didn't have to choose between home and portable play but couldn't they have made it look less ugly as shit?
 

Otnopolit

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Oct 28, 2017
363
I know we love to give our arm chair expert industry advice here (though we do have actual people from the industry in here, and I'm no exception since I'm coming in with a hot take myself), but I think you're doubting the huge library of games the Switch has. And now they made a cheaper product without devaluing the OG model. This is going to sell very, very well. Think about all the people that haven't bought a Switch yet for Pokemon. This is probably THE version to get for them.
 

LordofPwn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,423
if there was an all black edition I'd probably buy one even though i really have no need for it outside of the fact it should travel slightly better.
 

MXT

Banned
May 13, 2019
646
Except it does. Additional cooling. Redesigned dock. Etc.

It costs money. Buy an OG Switch if you want those features
As we have already discussed, this stuff isn't true. The ways the Switch Lite are smaller have no relation to the cooling system. 99% of the differential comes from a smaller screen and no-joycons.
 

bulbasort

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
73
No one else is answering this as far as I can see, so I'll give my guess that you can't. I'd expect that the Switch Lite will pretty much have the functionality of a current Switch so won't be usable as a controller for another Switch. Maybe they'll add that in future as a general update though.
Yeah, I'd like this. I already have a Switch, but my girlfriend might be interested in this for Pokemon, and it'd be nice to have another controller for Mario Kart or whatever.
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
5,881
This isn’t a primary switch this is the secondary one for the Pokémon and animal crossing players in your family
 

Mechaplum

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Oct 26, 2017
5,069
User X: Who even wants this thing??

Many posts describing exactly who would want it and why.

User X: See nobody wants this. Nintendo is blind. No value in this thing.
 
Oct 26, 2017
4,151
I'm not sure why you'd account for a tablet and 2nd Joycon. There'll be people who get everything that they need from this model - they won't feel the need to account for functionality that is extraneous to them.

US$200 might still be pricey for them, yes. I'm not sure what you'd suggest as a solution to that though. There's not much scope for cutting other stuff, they're down to pretty much the bare essentials with this. They will probably aim to reach lower prices eventually.
I said account for that bc the photo only shows the first joy-con beside the Switch Lite. If you compare the Joy-Con to the right side of the Switch Lite, you see a smaller size difference than the name implies. Add in the rest of the base model Switch's components, and you see a clear and negligible difference at best.
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
14,836
Haven't bought a Switch yet and was waiting to hear about this but not being able to connect it to a TV makes it a hard pass for me.