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Nintendo Switch Lite announced at $199, launches September 20th, "dedicated handheld" (smaller, has D-Pad, has gyro, no HD Rumble, no dock/TV output)
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I want a better Switch with a better d-pad and no detachable joycons. The Mini appears to solve those problems, but at the cost of not being a "Switch" anymore. WTF.
Nintendo is like we do it our way, random and i like it. Still strange they didnt announce it at e3
They're trying to differentiate the products as much as possible so they can sell as much of both as possible.
But flagship games like Zelda seem like tv experiences. Maybe I'm wrong though, considering there is a better level of intimacy of playing handheld.
What about performance? Isn't handheld mode poorer performance. Why couldn't they somehow allow for tv output even if through selling of an additional accessory
Ok this explains why I struggle to sift through all the crap in shop and find something worth buying, no wonder!
Wait people are upset by this? This seems like a great option for those that wanted a more portable Switch. If you want to use a dock so fucking bad buy the normal Switch or wait for it's upgrade.
I would assume there's a decent bump in sales immediately after e3. Announcing it would have led to a lot of people holding out.
I doubt it, but I rarely play undocked at home. It's great for flights/when I'm in a hotel but when I'm home it doesn't leave the dock.
Big agree!
Handheld mode does run at a lower performance profile. They could absolutely allow for docked play, they just chose not to. They get that functionality for free with the Tegra, they just have to wire up the USB-C connector and put a fan in a plastic housing and sell it for $80.
I can't imagine many (sane) people would have much interest in playing CTR on 4 player split-screen where every player has an inch of screen real estate anyways but I've been wrong before.
People are afraid of buying a regular switch when a pro model is lurking around the corner.
$200 US is £159 at the current exchange rate. Add a 20% VAT and you get £192.
So it will probably be £199.
I bet you were one of the people complaining about the Witcher even existing on Switch
Clearly there is an audience for the Lite lol. They cut features and adjusted price accordingly, and it'll be marketed towards a different demographic. The original option still exists. What is gained by attacking more options?
Love how it looks. And it has an actual d-pad
Since the screen is a bit smaller, it could have a higher pixel density right?
Games will look a bit more crisp :)
I will leave my current one in a dock-only configuration, and keep this new model as the "on the go" model.
Cloud saves mean that I can keep playing the same game in both consoles right?
Since the screen is a bit smaller, it could have a higher pixel density right?
Games will look a bit more crisp :)
I will leave my current one in a dock-only configuration, and keep this new model as the "on the go" model.
Cloud saves mean that I can keep playing the same game in both consoles right?
When I first saw the video, I was all in. The colors, the D-Pad, etc. Then as I started watching, I became less excited.
After thinking about it, I think the Switch Lite is a bad value proposition at $199 relative to the $299 Switch.
1. Yes, it's smaller, but it's not THAT much smaller. This isn't a device you can easily slip into your pocket.
2. Lack of Joycons. This was expected, but it literally means some games just won't be playable. And with the Switch, you get 2 of these, which is basically an extra controller.
3. Not dockable. A Switch that doesn't Switch.
If this console was smaller, or could dock, then I think it would be worth it. But for an extra $100, you get so much more with the OG Switch - full game comptability, extra controller, dockable, larger screen, etc. There's this border around the screen of the Lite where it seems they could have easily made the screen larger, but didn't.
If I were a prospective Switch buyer, and was looking for a system to primarily use as a handheld system, I would still go with the OG Switch. I think the massively expanded functionality, compatibility, and extra controllers are worth the $100. And I think it's this versatility that led people to buying the OG Switch to begin with.
After thinking about it, I think the Switch Lite is a bad value proposition at $199 relative to the $299 Switch.
1. Yes, it's smaller, but it's not THAT much smaller. This isn't a device you can easily slip into your pocket.
2. Lack of Joycons. This was expected, but it literally means some games just won't be playable. And with the Switch, you get 2 of these, which is basically an extra controller.
3. Not dockable. A Switch that doesn't Switch.
If this console was smaller, or could dock, then I think it would be worth it. But for an extra $100, you get so much more with the OG Switch - full game comptability, extra controller, dockable, larger screen, etc. There's this border around the screen of the Lite where it seems they could have easily made the screen larger, but didn't.
If I were a prospective Switch buyer, and was looking for a system to primarily use as a handheld system, I would still go with the OG Switch. I think the massively expanded functionality, compatibility, and extra controllers are worth the $100. And I think it's this versatility that led people to buying the OG Switch to begin with.
Well no, that's what you're doing, if anything, the amount of discussion and disagreement invalidates that post you made.
Let's not use ableist language. There is a better way to say that wanting to play 4 player split-screen on a tiny screen is odd and non-mainstream than.....doing what you did.
If one island per Switch is true in Animal Crossing, this is the way to go for having multiple islands. I'm in.
Nice to able to sync a pro controller. I sure there will be accessories for the Lite to have a stand on the back.
Nice to able to sync a pro controller. I sure there will be accessories for the Lite to have a stand on the back.
The end of an eraLittle Nincels continue being an embarrassment
Y'all wanted a portable only switch and now you got one but now you want it to be exactly the same as the original switch that launched back in 2017?
I have to laugh!
I'm trying lol! I just really want to play Link's Awakening right away :/
No, I was not.
I am attacking Nintendo artificially limiting this option, and I am attacking them for not introducing DPI scaling to the system (so as to allow more games to be playable by more people in handheld mode).
I'm kinda surprised it won't be compatible with the dock at all
that seems like a bad decision
that seems like a bad decision
This model is more or less everything the speculation thread predicted, right.down to pricing , no dock included , no detachable joycons and no tv pls
Good work folks. I'm really interested to see what SoC is powering this.
It's using a 20% smaller battery than OH Switch but playtime is around 30% longer (4 hours BOTW vs 3 hours). So that's a 50% power boost in portable mode for a Switch Pro targeting the same battery life as OG and with a larger battery.
Who knows about docked, since it runs cooler they could go for over 50%
Good work folks. I'm really interested to see what SoC is powering this.
It's using a 20% smaller battery than OH Switch but playtime is around 30% longer (4 hours BOTW vs 3 hours). So that's a 50% power boost in portable mode for a Switch Pro targeting the same battery life as OG and with a larger battery.
Who knows about docked, since it runs cooler they could go for over 50%
This thing sucks. It removes all the unique features of the Switch now it's just a standard handheld.
I guess it's for people who wanted a 2DS though.
I guess it's for people who wanted a 2DS though.
What is there to agree with? Obviously the people wanting a portable only are different than the ones that wanted a mini that can dock.
It's also made for all of us who were waiting for a cheaper, smaller switch with no tv out, that's the main reason I didn't buy one till now.
Yet, we have a Nintendo Switch without Dock and without Joy-cons. Why would you consider those "core features" if they release a model without them ? The reason is simple : there aren't core feature and Nintendo confirmed it today.
Good business decisions are way more important than pleasing some hardcore fans that overpraise gimmick most don't care about.
A 200€ Switch mini without those awful Joy-cons, a proper D-pad and a better form factor is a killer move. You can even expect this model to overthrown the classic OG model quickly in the future.
I think the main problem is many people on internet were trying to convince everybody and themselves that a Switch without dock and without joy-cons wouldn't happen. Trying to convince people Nintendo removing the 3D from the 3DS was different, etc. It's ok to be wrong, people misread Nintendo intent hard.
Not sure why people are so negative on this. It's not replacing the original Switch.
Not a fan of the middle-gray color they went with. I'd prefer that it was either white or black.
I think black buttons would have worked better on the yellow one for contrast too.
I suspect we're going to see a lot of color variations like the 2DS XL though.
While I love playing games in 3D on the device itself, sometimes I want to just sit back and play something on a TV or monitor - especially long RPGs or Community Sim games.
The ironic thing is that I really disliked playing Breath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey on a TV because they looked and ran so poorly (which can be forgiven to an extent on a smaller display) but Animal Crossing is a game I'd much rather play on a TV.
+ $100 less than the original Switch. This is a big deal for a lot of people. Obviously it doesn't matter to the enthusiasts here that already own tens or hundreds of (expensive!) games on the Switch.
+ 33% improved battery life is great. The original Switch was very disappointing in that regard, and only lasted a couple of hours (3 hours in BotW is a lie).
+ The hardware will feel solid, rather than cheap, now that the Joy-Cons are fixed to the device.
+ This might actually be small enough to be portable now, without requiring a bag/case.
− Losing TV out is a huge disappointment. I did not expect it to ship with a dock, but to still support USB-C to HDMI cables, or an optional dock.
− The Joy-Cons are known to have a lot of problems with bad analog sticks, and this design does not protect them. I really hope they've fixed that problem with this revision.
− No HD rumble is disappointing (does it support any kind of rumble at all?)
− That bezel is still huge, so the display is relatively small. This is a problem when some games were already designed for TV mode and did a bad job of scaling content down to the original switch display (small text etc).
Not a fan of the middle-gray color they went with. I'd prefer that it was either white or black.
I think black buttons would have worked better on the yellow one for contrast too.
I suspect we're going to see a lot of color variations like the 2DS XL though.
I wish that it did though. I've been playing handheld games on my TV since the original Super Game Boy.
While I love playing games in 3D on the device itself, sometimes I want to just sit back and play something on a TV or monitor - especially long RPGs or Community Sim games.
The ironic thing is that I really disliked playing Breath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey on a TV because they looked and ran so poorly (which can be forgiven to an extent on a smaller display) but Animal Crossing is a game I'd much rather play on a TV.
I guess it really doesn't matter too much. Maybe they up clocks to run games native 720p that aren't. We shall see.
Oh, I don't think there are many of them on era. Thank goodness.
Era never knows what it's wants even when screaming for it for months
I really think Football manager plays much better in handheld mode, tnks to touch controls and that text size is not an issue here.
Haven't played Rocket League, though.
Being able to play games on a TV is not a gimmick. That functionality is core to the business of Nintendo's competitors.
There are still selling the OG Switch, it's not a replacement, so they still see them as core features.
