Nintendo Switch Lite announced at $199, launches September 20th, "dedicated handheld" (smaller, has D-Pad, has gyro, no HD Rumble, no dock/TV output)

Which colour Nintendo Switch Lite is your favourite?

  • Grey

    Votes: 653 19.6%
  • Yellow

    Votes: 737 22.2%
  • Turquoise

    Votes: 1,197 36.0%
  • Pokémon Sword and Shield Edition

    Votes: 737 22.2%

  • Total voters
    3,324

DantesLink

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Oct 26, 2017
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We dominate, my Turquoise brethren!!!
Anywho, good price point and love the look. Figured it would have no dock packaged to keep cost low, but no dock compatibility (even if needed to be a new lite-only dock) is insane. No TV output is a deal breaker for me, especially since Nintendo/Switch isn't Single User/Multi-Console Friendly AFAIK.
 

robjoh

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Oct 31, 2017
405
Big agree!

Handheld mode does run at a lower performance profile. They could absolutely allow for docked play, they just chose not to. They get that functionality for free with the Tegra, they just have to wire up the USB-C connector and put a fan in a plastic housing and sell it for $80.
As I have not seen the design of the mini in detail I cannot state what is true or not but if they have reduced the thermal mass of the internal cooling system, which I assume with the reduced weight of the system it is not certain that an external fan will be good enough. You might actually overheat the chip before the heat has been moved out to the the space the external fan works with.

Of course that is just speculation from my part; especially as I mainly work with power electronics with quite higher power losses than a tegra but sufficient heat transfer can be hard to achieve. Nintendo might simple has gone with the simplest approach to ensure the price they wanted and good enough price.
 

kitchenmotors

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yes but that doesn’t change this device being lame.
How is it lame when the price point is good for families and people with lower income? This give people more access to the Switch that might consider the extra $100 a barrier. Not everyone can afford that extra money, and everyone deserves the same access to entertainment regardless of class. When these systems go cheaper with these “lite” models it opens the market up to a new segment.

God forbid privileged gamers want those people to have cheaper options. That’s the lame thing in this thread.
 

LakLak

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Jul 4, 2019
115
This thing sucks. It removes all the unique features of the Switch now it’s just a standard handheld.

I guess it’s for people who wanted a 2DS though.
Nintendo handhelds have always sold amazingly, for more than 20 years. Those being surprised Nintendo is releasing a pure handheld Switch are delusional. Not only it was bound to happen, it's one of the best business strategy they could go for.

There are still selling the OG Switch, it's not a replacement, so they still see them as core features.
Core features that are not shared by a console from the same "Switch" family ? That's a gimmick. If it was a core feature, it would be on the Switch Mini. It isn't, it's a gimmick.

Inb4 people stop buying the OG model and rush to get the mini versions.

How is it lame when the price point is good for families and people with lower income? This give people more access to the Switch that might consider the extra $100 a barrier. Not everyone can afford that extra money, and everyone deserves the same access to entertainment regardless of class. When these systems go cheaper with these “lite” models it opens the market up to a new segment.

God forbid privileged gamers want those people to have cheaper options. That’s the lame thing in this thread.
Also this ! Thanks Kitchenmotors. So much gatekeeping in this thread.

I'll add that putting a 300$ fragile device in the hand of children isn't a smart decision. This Switch mini looks sturdier and is cheaper.
 

Force_XXI

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Oct 29, 2017
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I’m pretty sure pro isnt coming this year. Either you announce them both at the same time or not. It doesn’t make sense to announce another switch in a couple months. Too confusing to consumers.
I was just thinking this like why would they do a pro 3 months after the lite?youre gonna get some confused people at Christmas not knowing what to pick out of the 3 models
 

SamAlbro

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Oct 25, 2017
3,370
Honest question, I understand a Lite version cutting costs and I'm fine with that meaning no dock and no high-power brick being included, the only thing I'm miffed about, why can't I put this Switch Lite in my existing dock for TV-out? You would think that the internals are this much identical to allow for this.
Smaller size might prevent it from actually fitting in the dock - the sticks, buttons, and triggers would be closer together, and might not have enough clearance to go into the dock.
 

zen1990x

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Jul 1, 2019
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Honest question, I understand a Lite version cutting costs and I'm fine with that meaning no dock and no high-power brick being included, the only thing I'm miffed about, why can't I put this Switch Lite in my existing dock for TV-out? You would think that the internals are this much identical to allow for this.

im thinking this will actually work when it comes out, just nintendo won't acknowledge it.Maybe they will come out with a smaller dock later on.
 

Meatwad

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Oct 25, 2017
1,227
USA
I think what people are missing is that this is meant as an alternative upgrade path for current 3DS owners, who for whatever reason haven't bought into the Switch. Nintendo wants to retire the 3DS, it's clearly finished and this looks to be a move to get the 3DS market over to the Switch market. I think combined with Pokemon it'll easily sell
 

Cleve

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Oct 27, 2017
406
Is therea good picture of the top of this? Does it still have the same thermal exhaust port? I wonder if they've brought the cooling needs down at all.
 

Eoin

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Oct 27, 2017
1,077
Yeah but if you're talking a minuscule difference, then it's not going to help the system be any more portable than it was.
That's the point though. Every tiny reduction in size pushes this machine across the portability threshold for someone, somewhere. By volume this new model is ~22% smaller than the existing Switch models - it's not a big difference but it will be enough that it'll be portable for more people than it was before.
 

SecondNature

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are people going to be happy with a 7 hour battery life? I feel like this should be like $150, with a 12-14 hour battery making it an acceptable $200

How long did the DS last again
 

MXT

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May 13, 2019
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As I have not seen the design of the mini in detail I cannot state what is true or not but if they have reduced the thermal mass of the internal cooling system, which I assume with the reduced weight of the system it is not certain that an external fan will be good enough. You might actually overheat the chip before the heat has been moved out to the the space the external fan works with.

Of course that is just speculation from my part; especially as I mainly work with power electronics with quite higher power losses than a tegra but sufficient heat transfer can be hard to achieve. Nintendo might simple has gone with the simplest approach to ensure the price they wanted and good enough price.
The thing is....this system clearly is running a Tegra X1 die shrink. The numbers Nintendo quotes with the smaller battery do not make any kind of sense otherwise. With that in mind + the system being of a similar thickness to the old Switch, I don’t see how they would not be able to cool the system for TV out.

The reduced weight is likely the battery. The Switch used mostly reference Nvidia components - even the eMMC board is reference part - so I would not be surprised to see Nintendo use the reference Nvidia thermal solution.
 

Dracul

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Nov 2, 2017
274
If it had TV-out would have been insta-buy. Can’t see myself playing BotW2 on such a small screen.
 

Omnicore

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Oct 25, 2017
331
Vancouver
Neat, not for me as my Switch never leaves the dock but at that price point there’s going to be a ton of new adopters! Gonna sell like hotcakes over the holidays.
Will wait for the inevitable X or Pro version.
 

hussien-11

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think I'm still strongly opposed to the existence of this device.

if people were this interested in a handheld only device, 3DS would've done much better. it will do great in Japan but i don't think it can match the main device outside.

and why limit the appeal of the original Switch?

even Joy Cons are big part of the appeal, games like Super Mario Party and Overcooked sold insanely well because of couch co-op

why kill this?
 

Zefah

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Oct 25, 2017
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Love the design of the thing, but I would hate to be locked into just portable mode even if that's how I play my current Switch 80% of the time.
 

Skyfireblaze

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Oct 25, 2017
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Smaller size might prevent it from actually fitting in the dock - the sticks, buttons, and triggers would be closer together, and might not have enough clearance to go into the dock.
im thinking this will actually work when it comes out, just nintendo won't acknowledge it.Maybe they will come out with a smaller dock later on.
Yeah I didn't think of the sticks physically getting in the way but this has me curious now, assuming this model has the same USB-C port, I am really tempted to know what happens when you use a compatible USB-C extension-cord and hook it up to a dock.
 

broony

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Oct 27, 2017
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If it was dockable then nobody would buy the OG switch as you could just buy one of those hdmi adapters. They are just protecting the current premium offering.

Mini seems cool for my kids, but need to understand what’s involved with digital licensing and cloud saves between consoles.
 

eseqko

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Oct 27, 2017
1,238
I won’t be buying this since I know I am not the demographic Nintendo is trying to attract with this model, but I must say that purely as a handheld, I’m really impressed. 5.5 inch screen makes it slightly larger than the N3DSXL (4.8 in), and the ability to still play like 95% of the catalogue without compromises. What eventually will make this sell is Nintendo pumping out games, and getting 3rd parties on board. That the real value of a handheld console.

This is seriously like the 2DS for original owners of the 3DS, I’ll be waiting for the N3DS version of this news if I plan on revising.
 

ShinobiBk

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Dec 28, 2017
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User Banned (1 week): Handwaving a violent misogynist hate movement
Combination between Nintendo fanboys and Incels, a.k.a hardcore misogynists and school shooters. Really classy shit.
Oh, I don't think there are many of them on era. Thank goodness.

Wtf? An Incel is just someone who can't get laid. Has nothing to do with misogyny or school shootings.

Still, glad the low effort troll was banned

I don't want to get into arguments about this to detail the thread don't quote me
 

shadow2810

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think I'm still strongly opposed to the existence of this device.

if people were this interested in a handheld only device, 3DS would've done much better. it will do great in Japan but i don't think it can match the main device outside.

and why limit the appeal of the original Switch?

even Joy Cons are big part of the appeal, games like Super Mario Party and Overcooked sold insanely well because of couch co-op

why kill this?
Option is bad. Also can 3DS plays Switch games?
 

ManNR

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Feb 13, 2019
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Where’s that dude at?? We told you it would remove features. Nintendo should never care about Mario Party or Labo. They made the right decision.
I was one of those dudes! Ha. Very surprised by this honestly. But Nintendo do what Nintendo do. Thinking this is perfect for my niece but my only concern is that she'd be disappointed it doesn't dock.
 

Notaskwid

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think I'm still strongly opposed to the existence of this device.

if people were this interested in a handheld only device, 3DS would've done much better. it will do great in Japan but i don't think it can match the main device outside.

and why limit the appeal of the original Switch?

even Joy Cons are big part of the appeal, games like Super Mario Party and Overcooked sold insanely well because of couch co-op

why kill this?
Because this model is not meant to replace the original and is made specifically for people who want a new, cheaper, more portable version.
 

thebishop

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Nov 10, 2017
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Given that the Mini is hitting the magic $200 price point AND cutting the docked performance profile, I think we're going to see Nintendo and 3rd parties scale back their production scope a bit for the rest of the Switch lifecycle.

Unless the rumored Switch Pro is announced, for the moment it looks like OG Switch's portable profile will have to be the "first class" development spec. Goodbye 720p30, hello 540p24.
 

steviejd1

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Nov 8, 2017
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Core features that are not shared by a console from the same "Switch" family ? That's a gimmick. If it was a core feature, it would be on the Switch Mini. It isn't, it's a gimmick.
The Switch LITE is targeted at a different market than the OG Switch. That market might not care about the core features of the OG Switch but that does not make it a gimmick. If it was such a gimmick then surely Switch sales would have been similar to that of the Wii U?
 

carlosrox

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maybe they should call it the "Stuck" ;)

Can't believe people are losing their shit over this lol.

The Switch is already a great system that does both. Get that if this is such an issue. I'm kinda surprised people wouldn't just get the Switch but there's definitely the market that just wants it as a handheld console so it makes sense for them. It also makes sense for fans who like to double dip and have spare handheld consoles.

I do hope and assume a Pro is coming though since he worded the Switch and Lite as a "family". Kinda implies more are coming, which was also apparently planned long ago by Iwata.

Can't wait for the Pro, whatever it is.

Will more than likely cop me one of these too. The Yellow one is pretty damn tempting. Grey looks cool and I'm into the Pokemon one sans the actual Pokemon designs on the back. It's got a sexy color scheme. Decisions decisions.
 

Ottaro

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Oct 25, 2017
760
This is... so disappointing. I really really wanted a more portable version of the switch but i only play splatoon docked.

I wouldn’t mind owning both, but then save files are attached to the console right? So i can’t easily hop cartridges around?
 

modsbox

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Oct 28, 2017
96
Any pre-order links live yet? I see the placeholders are up at Best Buy but still marked as coming soon.

The Pokemon one is gorgeous and will sell like crazy. Want to get a preorder in for it the moment it goes up at a retailer.