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Nintendo Switch Lite announced at $199, launches September 20th, "dedicated handheld" (smaller, has D-Pad, has gyro, no HD Rumble, no dock/TV output)
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This is not a revision, it is a alternative model not replacing the current model, covering different needs. People without a TV, people sharing a TV or people who simply don't care about TV functionality. I know, Era exclusively consists of people who have a TV, live in households where every single member has their own TV and Switch/PS4/Pro/ One/S/X under every single TV, but you know, there is a real world out there which bought the handheld only 3DS 75 million times. And Nintendo is dumb enough to adress that market.
But yes, I get your demand for a revision and I'm not opposed to it. But corporate apologist whore that I am, I get why Nintendo isn't adressing that low demand yet.
Yes I intend to send it but as holidays are about to start I will wait till September. Hopefully they fix it within warranty (NOE).
Amazon Spain has it at 240. I hope that is not the standard price but it may be.
No, not that guy but the burden if explanation is still on you. You haven't placed numbers on any of those things (because you can't). If you want to say it's worth less than $200 to you, that's fine, but to say it "could've been cheaper" is generally taken to mean the cost of manufacturing itself is significantly lower, which you don't know.
Which goes back to "that's not how it works"; your personal valuation of a product does not determine its price or cost to make. That's what is being argued.
I believe that the purpose of this is that there's no other way to do charging, data transfer and video out concurrently.
But the reason the Lite does not have any kind of video out is likely because they have not designed the thermals around running in the higher resolution TV mode. In order to make it smaller/cheaper/lighter.
I don't think it will matter - the battery life is already stated with a nice example. It doesn't sound like a massive difference at all, and the potential changes being made to the standard sku (that also may be in Lite) are likely to make negligible difference, as with other systems. Currently you get "potentially" an extra hour out of BotW, while also having smaller screen / no rumble / no joycon charging etc. Those changes alone may account for the majority of that difference
I've looked a lot for this information but couldn't find confirmation either way.
I love the price and it looks cute, but I find playing switch handheld to be pretty uncomfortable. Especially with any game that uses the right stick for camera. Also, the current joycons are delicate and the new design has yet to be proven.
A grip could probably solve the ergonomics, though! A thing I don't use now because my switch is mostly docked.
A grip could probably solve the ergonomics, though! A thing I don't use now because my switch is mostly docked.
Well, yeah.
USB 3 has tons and tons and tons of optional things. High power charging? Optional. DisplayPort over alternate mode? Optional. Thunderbolt 3 over alternate mode? Optional. Etc? Optional. Manufacturers need to decide on what they want to support, and then cobble together a base USB 3 controller and any and all additional ICs that implement the optional functionality.
That's why USB-C ports are such a consumer mess. This port on your laptop will charge, but this one won't. This one does DisplayPort, this one doesn't. This one is Thunderbolt 3 only, no USB 3. This one is the other way around.
Manufacturers save money by leaving out any optional ICs whenever they can.
So yeah, the USB 3 spec technically allows for charging, data transfer over USB 3, and video and audio out concurrently, but none of that is guaranteed for any given port -- you get it by implementing a bunch of optional parts of the spec.
I think Nintendo would have said so if it had a replacement rumble feature.
Except my first response was to the person who said $100 difference is justified, who did not put any number on that justification either.
That's my assumption too, but not seen it confirmed yet.
If only there was a product that could address both the home console and the portable market at the same time...
It will have yo be differated with the naming, unless they dis continue the old switch, like smartphone + tablet makers do.
That is on the market and selling better than last year, which sold better than in the year before.
Gamestop here has it at 219.99 and 229.99 for the Pokémon edition.
Cool, but make a smaller revision to increase portability. It's really very simple unless you're Nintendo.
I'm not really sure that all the things you want will comfortably fit into a smaller unit than the Switch.
I would have loved a 199$ model that has TV support. I would either play handheld or with a pro controller on TV.
Game Spain has it at 219, so it's definitely a placeholder.
I've mentioned this before but this version with rumble and a small dock that could double as a kickstand with TV out would be amazing (and it could be sold as a separate accessory to keep the price low). But as others have pointed out, that model would probably cannibalize the existing OG Switch.
I'm okay with the idea of a portable model, my main disappointment is no rumble.
Yikes. Seems like an easy thing to put in? I have no idea just guessing. Wonder why it was left out completely.
Let me repeat reality one last time.
A company can:
A) release a revision of a product selling gangbusters, satisfying the demand they are already satisfying
or
B) release a product which caters to different demands and sell more units within the same family of hardware.
And yes, Nintendo is insanely dumb for picking the obvious option b), which after the insane failures like Apple and Android devices, can only lead to their doom and satisfyied costumers.
That's fine. I hate rumble in portables and it drains battery life
Except the feature rich OS the Vita had. Switch doesn't have that, and it's worse off for it.
To cut costs for Nintendo, which is generally the reason something is removed.
Money?
Say those linear steppers cost $0.50 for the pair of them.
Sell five million Lites, that's $2,500,000 spent on stepper motors. Now, what's market research say about rumble on a mobile device? Are you likely to lose more than $2,500,000 in sales profits if you launch without it? No? Cut them.
Everything's "easy to put in". It all cuts into your profits, though.
Ditto. If the screen I'm looking at is connect to what I'm holding with my hands I really don't need rumble. It doesn't give me the desired effect like when I'm holding a controller while watching it on the TV.
Handheld systems typically don't have rumble, in part due to battery concerns, in part due to costs, in part because the screen itself would be shaking.
Will never see that research, but would be interesting to see. I can tell you that for me this is actually an issue that has me on the buy/wait line and I've seen several posters in this thread react with some measure of disbelief on this issue.
Whether intentional or not, Nintendo is being stealthy and concealing this no rumble thing. They widely announced no HD Rumble and everyone is repeating that. My initial reaction was no big deal because I assumed that just meant it would have basic rumble features. I really had to dig through articles to find an answer yesterday. (I played DOOM entirely portable for example - rumble and feeling the guns was a big deal.)
I can think of one handheld system that has good rumble functionality. It is also can play Switch games.
Ugh, forgot about this. I was really thinking about grabbing one of these to use alongside my Switch but those three games specifically will all sting to not always have at the ready.
Well, maybe they intend doing something further about this, since in the cnet article it says "but how games would transfer over is ambiguous; a situation Nintendo is working on clearing up. Speaking to CNET, Nintendo of America president Doug Bowser says plans are in motion for multi-device solutions. "Yes, you will have the ability to transfer between devices, your gameplay experiences," Bowser told CNET. "More to come on there, but that is the intention."
Yet you're asking for it to be cheaper, which is wishful thinking. Basically asking for them to give it away.
the fact that they have a d-pad and normal switch users have to buy a gimped 3rd party joycon for it is stupid.
I don't have one, so I didn't know that before this thread. My b. :x
Well at least it should be relatively easy to fix with a software update, no?
The reason the OG Joycons don't have one is quite clearly because every individual joycon needs to function as its own mini controller with face buttons. Nintendo should absolutely make an official dpad Joycon but it not being the default is very understandable.
To be honest the Vita OS is one of the things that annoyed me about the system. The bubbles, the folders, the useless apps that Sony barely supported.
I'm fine with the minimal life on Switch. I have everything else for multimedia consumption.
It's also a handheld system that's expected to function equally well when connected to an external display, which the handheld system this thread is discussing is not.