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Nintendo Switch Lite announced at $199, launches September 20th, "dedicated handheld" (smaller, has D-Pad, has gyro, no HD Rumble, no dock/TV output)
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might be a stupid line of reasoning but maybe there's no rumble because that could make dropping the Lite easier. never had that problem with my rumble controller though soo
That product remains too expensive for some people like me and for those of us who don't care about docking to a TV, who just want a pure handheld device? Switch lite does just that at a more attractive price point.
Because...its a variation of the Nintendo Switch that plays....Switch games, not a new console.
Because Switch is a brand name and the Switch Lite plays Switch games.
I'm not expecting all of you to be marketing experts, but Jesus Christ.
My god guys, it is called switch because if it wasn't,nintendo would have to heavily advertise to people that yes, this new portable also plays switch games. And that would be more work and could not go well, so they just call it switch lite to tell people "here, a budget limited version of that console if you're not comfortable expending too much money on it". That's why on the box the word LITE is in big ass letters compared to the rest.
Hey guys I have a question I've been dying to ask. Can anyone tell me why the PlayStation Portable is called PlayStation if it's not stationary? Seems like a huge oversight from Sony.
They should have called it Game Whizz to avoid confusing people
It's too bad it can't be docked, even if they sold a separate one given the difference in dimensions, but what would definitely make me pre-order one of these would be if you could use it as a gamepad with your docker OG Switch.
The Game Boy wasn't a hybrid nor the DS or the 3DS, they were meant to be ONLY handhelds(although the Game Boy got things like the Super Game Boy and Game Boy Player down the line), this Switch loses one aspect that made it the Switch.
what percentage of the switch library doesnt have handheld modes?
i dont have one, but i thought that was a major selling point. Why wouldnt you have a handheld mode?
i dont have one, but i thought that was a major selling point. Why wouldnt you have a handheld mode?
Yes, especially these three games. These are all pretty much 'lifetime' games that many spend hundreds or thousands of hours with.
like 2 or 3 games. Mario Party and 1,2 Switch being the main ones
mario party makes sense i guess
but this will be my pokemon zelda machine, so guess that works
Because Switch is the name of the Console family, and the name on the boxes with the games you can play on it.
The defining feature of the Switch, be it Og or Lite is that it plays Switch games.
You people really shouldnt take everything so literal, the Wii didnt piss in your living room everytime you booted it up, but it was still called the Wii.
They call it the Switch Lite because all the games have the Switch name and Logo on the box, and the name has brand recognition.
You dont just throw that away so your are "technically correct" when describing what the thing does with the name.
I think you made that up. TWEWY is best played in handheld mode.
Sigh ...
Nothing.
Idk how you can say that a 3DS/gameboy/etc. is a Switch. They weren't built to be hybrid in the same way that the Switch was. Not to mention, the handhelds doesn't have two different performance thresholds like the Switch does.
Imagine Nintendo calling it the Gameboy S or some shit. Average Joe is at the store and looking to get a new system, and sets his sights on the $200 Gameboy:
Joe: "Oh sweet, Nintendo dropped a new Gameboy! Where are the games at?"
GameStop: "oh they're right here!"
Joe: "but those say Switch. This is a Gameboy"
GameStop: "...well yeah, but it plays Switch games"
Joe: "okay, but where are the Gameboy games for it?"
GameStop: "sir it only plays Switch games"
Joe: "well then why is it called a Gameboy?"
....as a former GameStop and Disc Replay employee, this is exactly the shit you'd run into if Nintendo called the Lite anything other than Switch. But I guess Era marketing degrees are all the rage right now
Labo kits (Variety, Robot, Vehicle, VR), 1-2 Switch, Super Mario Party, Fitness Boxing, and Just Dance (17, 18, 19, upcoming 20) don't work while handheld. Except for the Labo kits, the latter games are still technically playable if you have separate Joy-Cons and (ideally) some way of propping the system up.
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Just Dance can theoretically work since you can still connect your phone
They recently humble bragged about having 2500+ games on the system, so since about 4 games(counting the labo kits as one) dont have out of box support for the Lite, the percentage is about 0.16% of the current library.
Right, and the Switch Lite will have all the appeal of a handheld, which has proven to be a pretty successful hardware model. I don't see the issue. The existence of the Switch hasn't killed demand for dedicated handheld devices.
...they're comparing them to the Switch Lite. I don't know how you can't see the similarity. Nintendo's had a cheap handheld only option since the GB, and with the 3DS reaching the final stages of being phased out they want a replacement for that market.
Yes, the appeal is that it's cheaper; that was a huge part of the appeal of the Game Boy and DS lines. People who liked cheaper handheld gaming then will probably still like it now. It's not a coincidence that they got the Lite down to $199.99, where the 3DS XL and New 3DS XL launched.
Forget it, my friend. Speaking as a professional naming consultant by day, let me tell you: you wouldn't believe how hard it is to sell (or unsell, for that matter) a name. Educate people all you want, but at the end of the day, if people think a name is good/bad because "I dunno, I just (don't) like it", there's very little you can do to change their mind unless they're strategically-minded in the first place.
... But here's my attempt at explaining why the "Switch" name isn't much of an issue for this product anyway:
- 2DS required a name change because, for all intents and purposes, "3DS" was a descriptive name. It does 3D, and so it has the word "3D" in it. It's very much a dumb idea to tie your product to a fully descriptive name like this, because you never know how your brand will evolve over time, and that name might not reflect the nature of the product a few years down the line, as we saw with the 3DS.
- Switch doesn't really require a name change because it's not descriptive. It's suggestive. It's evocative. Sure, one way to interpret the name is "switch between home and portable", but it's not like the system is literally called "The Hybrid" or "The Mixed Use System" either. The word "Switch" has several meanings, like "switch things up". It's vague enough to work. Plus, it's just a cool-looking and cool-sounding word. Give people a few weeks and they'll get completely used to pretty much any name. They won't even think about what it means or could mean. It'll just be synonymous with "that product I know".
I mean, do you hear people say that naming a drink "Coke" is a disaster because it doesn't even contain coke (anymore) and/or it sounds like the drug? And do you often hear people complain about the name "Wii" anymore? That shit stopped after two weeks on gaming forums, and probably never even was a thing among the general public, because people just don't think hard about this stuff. They just take it at face value, unless they're heavily invested in it in the first place - as forum goers are -, or unless they're specifically asked to think about it. Which they're not.
Welp, there goes my interest in buying a yellow one in the near future.
Superior colour is also cheaper, checks out.
People think the value of the Switch is that the *hardware* can "switch" between the handheld and the TV stuff, and that this is what the name means.
This is incorrect.
The value of the Switch is that it LETS YOU CHOOSE to play your games THE WAY YOU WANT TO. It is the *games* that "switch" from handheld to TV to tabletop; offering hardware that's specifically designed for all three uses is just one way that value can be delivered.
If I have a Switch Lite, I can still switch from using it in handheld to using it with a controller. That's a "switch." But I can also stop playing on my Switch Lite and pick up my game on my flagship Switch. That's also a "switch."
In this way, we see that Switch is about FLEXIBILITY. But how can Switch be MORE flexible? One way is by not making you pay for functionality you don't need. So they have an option for Switch where you don't need all the extras for TV play if you don't want them. They could conceivably also offer a TV only version.
None of this interferes with the core values of the brand. You can still play Switch games however you want, but now you can choose to buy only what you need and not pay for what you don't need.
I get kinda bummed out thinking about the kids that will get this for Christmas then feel disappointed by the things they can't do with it. Wanna play Mario Party? You need $80 joy cons. Want to use that cool Labo VR? ...Sorry dude.
I completely understand why Nintendo made this, and it's clearly not for me, but I can't help but feel like they made a few too many concessions. The Switch's biggest feature was "play anywhere, any way" now it's "play one specific way".
I completely understand why Nintendo made this, and it's clearly not for me, but I can't help but feel like they made a few too many concessions. The Switch's biggest feature was "play anywhere, any way" now it's "play one specific way".
Really curious to see how Nintendo handles the account system/eshop once it is increasingly likely that a household will own multiple switch units. I'll probably end up getting one for my son, and I'm sure I'll have to put some thought into how our account(s) are set up.
It is a Handheld only device...it is a portable only system where you can play all the Switch games. I think there is a big market for this device. Everyone else can buy a normal Switch if they want the hybrid functions and joycons.
I own a Switch but im buying this day one.
I own a Switch but im buying this day one.
For all those people like me who thought Nintendo should just commit to one style of console back when the Switch was announced, time just proved us right: it should've been mobile all along.
I'm sticking with my "old" Switch and I'm glad I have the option of switching between mobile or docked mode (pun very intended), but I guess we could've lived without one or the other if the option were never there from the start.
Having said that, I can totally see Nintendo's following console being a portable device that can connect to an HDMI dongle wirelessly. Best of both worlds.
I'm sticking with my "old" Switch and I'm glad I have the option of switching between mobile or docked mode (pun very intended), but I guess we could've lived without one or the other if the option were never there from the start.
Having said that, I can totally see Nintendo's following console being a portable device that can connect to an HDMI dongle wirelessly. Best of both worlds.
It wont display in 1080p at all due to the low energy revised chip set being used, this helped keep the cost down and improve battery life, just buy the flagship Switch if you need that ability and pay for it
I'm sorry for not read the whole thread but... we won't be able to have the same account logged in both consoles, right?
Welp... 18 minutes after.
Would be great to have at least 2 switchs with the same account. At least with traditional switch and lite one.
Welp... 18 minutes after.
Would be great to have at least 2 switchs with the same account. At least with traditional switch and lite one.
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It was simple. I conceded that this was not for me and decided not to complain for complaining sakes (except the Bluetooth support argh!)...