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Nintendo Switch Online classic games will run at HD resolutions
- Thread starter YolkFolk
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If they actually continue to do this for future systems it would be an improvement over paying to upgrade your VC library each generation!
Because it's Nintendo and you can't have any expectations with them unless you want to be let down.
No. You can't perfectly scale 240p to 1080p. You can perfectly scale it to 720p and 4K however.
It's basic math:
720 / 240 = 3
2160 / 240 = 9
1080 / 240 = 4,5
See the problem?
It's upscaled to an HD resolution.
Not actually rendered at an HD resolution.
Perfectly fine with this because it's been a thing for well over 20 years now.
Not actually rendered at an HD resolution.
Perfectly fine with this because it's been a thing for well over 20 years now.
Thanks. if the TV is still 1080p, will it look weird?
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It may look a little fuzzy, but we are talking about NES games so i wouldn't worry too much about it, i'm sure they'll look fine.
This isn't particularly meaningful for NES (or SNES) games. The actual game resolution is fundamentally fixed and it was going to get scaled up by the Switch hardware even if they didn't do anything.
Hopefully the 4:3 scaling is decent, though.
Hopefully the 4:3 scaling is decent, though.
It's always bizarre when I see a SNES game that wasn't developed with 4:3 in mind.Hoping this means they have strong scaling in place and the filter options are sufficient. Would kill for a decent scanline filter w/brightness adjustment but if not I'll gladly take a sharp integer scale. Also vibrant colours please D:
Also wonder how they'll handle aspect ratio, given that NES (and SNES) doesn't use square pixels for 4:3
Ideally, they'll have options for either of these ratios with interpolation to smooth over 4:3 horizontal scrolling like on SNES Mini
No joke, 4k is amazing for retro game emulation! A good scanline filter can really shine at the breathing room of that resolution. Even if you just do a clean non-filtered image, the scaling ends up being razor sharp thanks to pixel density + 4k being a perfect integer scale of 240p. Of course you can still achieve good results at 720 or 1080p, though compromises will have to be made one way or the other.
The vast majority of games I've seen will be stretched "too wide" in 4:3. The developers would usually fix the image for 4:3 when there were cutscene images or particular screens they felt were important, but the actual gameplay almost always looks correct in 8:7. Chrono Trigger has a lot of 4:3 screens in it, meaning that neither setting will make everything look perfect. I think Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter are supposed to be correct in 4:3 all the time, but I don't play them and don't know for sure.
Luckily Nintendo has been pretty great about giving players the option for 1:1 pixels since the 3DS VC. I wish they went further to compete with PC emulators, though.
They should do Whatever they did to make the assets/sprites from the NES and SNES Mario games look so good in Mario Maker.
They'd have to remake the games, but I'd love to see the Mario games remade like that though.
They'd have to remake the games, but I'd love to see the Mario games remade like that though.
CRT 4:3 TV (or profesional monitor) will always be the best way, since the games and console were made for that. Other solutions can work, but they always have to compromise something. Like uenven scaling, input lag, emulation lag, etc.
4:3 with integer scaling and CRT royale kurozumi shader on a 4KTV
That would look stretched pretty sure
If you're emulating on 4K TV (or anything HD TV LCD or whatever) I'd go with 8:7 otherwise shit looks too wide
@__@ Thanks for the reply ^__^;
The potential of this feature alone makes me very hyped about this service overall, even if everything else about it is straight up trash.
Please don't, bugs and glitches are a part of what defines classic games and are essential for things like speedruns and exploits.
If you look into the issue as to why it gets a bit technical
The short answer is that for some games, 8:7 is the best aspect ratio. For others, 4:3 like on the CRT was expected and it's better on those games.
Chrono Trigger is one of the ones that actually looks better on 4:3
Hope they make a filter that allows the unscanned like effect (usually called a scanline filter, even though it's the opposite) with no blur/artefact crap added.
Had to hack the NES/SNES Minis to get those, even though the emulators natively had those options.
Had to hack the NES/SNES Minis to get those, even though the emulators natively had those options.
Have Nintendo said something to make you think that? The release of the Nvdia Shield console for China complete with HD versions of Super Mario Galaxy and Zelda TP makes me hopeful that Nintendo will release key back catalogue titles for Switch.
Despite Crystal Chronicles being on PS4 as well, I still have a suspicion that Nintendo informed Square of their plans and asked if in the future they could have it as part of their service, and Square Enix instead opted to instead release the game for both platforms and.bypass the service. It would make sense at the very least why now of all times to do so.
Speculative bitching is the building block that gaming forums are made upon.
How is it trolling? Is it not speculation that the service will have goodnemulatiom as well? If we take a look back at Nintendo's history we canseec nothing is guaranteed quit being a shill .
Considering that their most recent efforts with Canoe on the NES/SNES minis were extremely high quality, I think that to speculate it'd be crappy emulation would be the bigger rush to judgment here.
Best part about playing SNES games on the New 3DS is that pixel-perfect mode looks glorious.Also wonder how they'll handle aspect ratio, given that NES (and SNES) doesn't use square pixels for 4:3
Ideally, they'll have options for either of these ratios with interpolation to smooth over 4:3 horizontal scrolling like on SNES Mini
Yeah, I happily traded off aspect ratio accuracy there for just how razor sharp that mode is! Still bums me out we didn't get that option on NES 3DS VC, the resolution is way too low to simulate the stretched 4:3
I've never seen a SNES game on the 3DS at 8:7 (or at all honestly), but seeing it at native res on that screen must be pretty nice I imagine.
Funny enough, that's actually her likeness I used for a piece I did over a decade ago now.
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Two pieces of emulation hardware have been released since then and well received. You're picking the wrong hill.
I bet it's just upscaled to 720p or whatever.
Meanwhile there are PC NES emulators that support texture packs for NES games. They look really nice too:
These look awful in my opinion. All they need is some decent scanline and CRT filters.
I really need someone to post a side-by-side because I am having a really hard time imagining how higher resolutions benefit pixel-based games at all. It's not like 3D games where increasing the rendering resolution results in less aliasing and much higher IQ. It's not like you can render pixels at a higher resolutions and upscaling pixels seems equally meaningless.
I generally don't advise people to threat their partners ;)