Its depressing that they kept pushing this back and literally only added one thing. Im so dissapointed in Nintendo.
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Nintendo Switch Online: New Info (Cloud Saves, 20 NES games, Family Plan)
- Thread starter Atheerios
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Yeah the money is nothing but their vision is horrible and i dont want to support it. Luckily they have nothing i'm dying to play online.
Kinda insane that voice chat is still app based. You'd think the fee would give them enough money to make it work on the system itself.
20 bucks a year to not be able to message my friends online which all the other systems can do for free. 20 bucks to still not be able to invite friends on fifa. There's no defending this with "it's cheap" they're making us pay for a service that doesn't even provide the bare minimum.
Certain games won't have cloud saves. My guess is games like Pokemon, where they don't want people trying to dupe saves, or games where you lose your save if you die.
I just mean the online service as a whole, as a subscription service for games, this isn't half bad (I would still have liked a purchase option).
Do you even know the meaning of "derivative"... ?
The Legend of Zelda, Super Mario Bros. 3, are genre defining and great games even today. Both SMB3 and Kirby on the NES are on par with the best indie production.
There are silent films like Metropolis or A Trip to the Moon or Battleship Potemkin that are maybe a bit tedious for some but are still pretty cool examples of cinematography - and so you can find stuff like Sweet Home, the first Final Fantasy, Mega Man I and II and Metroid on the NES.
Looks like a losing battle :/ seems the majority of people are confused as to why some folks are annoyed by this, which I don't even know how to argue against.
So, if I have two Switch systems, I can have all my games downloaded to both? And I can start a game on one on the go, then switch to the docked one and continue my game later?
Yep, I'm with you. This service completely sucks.
Whilst that's true to a degree, you can't enter a market with a product several iterations behind the competition, say "We'll catch up" and expect it to take off and be widely accepted.
Yep I can stomach the paying for online (though I don't like it on any console) and I'm fine with the 20 NES games (playing the original Zelda on the switch is actually something I look forward to) and maybe SNES and N64 stuff comes out later down the line but, If you are locking the only way of backing up my game saves behind a paywall and even then not let me use it for all games. Then this will be the first console I hack before it becomes unsupported because fuck you Nintendo that is stupid beyond belief.
This is embarrassing and cant be tolerated. I already lost my save games once because my switch was stolen. I get that cloud saves are part of the paid online and i'm fine with that, but not implementing a function to backup your saves to an SD card???
People saying "oh online is cheap anyways compared to other systems". I have zero interest in playing online on the switch, the entire online ecosystem is an absolute disaster and archaic. And the "oh but youre getting free NES games" argument doesn't cut it either. You can run those on a freaking calculator. If they included 2 Wii games every month then it'd be more reasonable. Their competitors are releasing multiple current gen and last gen games every month, this is the equivalent of Switch and Wii U games.
Homebrew cant come soon enough, I'm sure as hell not updating my switch beyond 4.0.
People saying "oh online is cheap anyways compared to other systems". I have zero interest in playing online on the switch, the entire online ecosystem is an absolute disaster and archaic. And the "oh but youre getting free NES games" argument doesn't cut it either. You can run those on a freaking calculator. If they included 2 Wii games every month then it'd be more reasonable. Their competitors are releasing multiple current gen and last gen games every month, this is the equivalent of Switch and Wii U games.
Homebrew cant come soon enough, I'm sure as hell not updating my switch beyond 4.0.
I get this lingering feeling video apps like Netflix are also going to be locked behind this.
Well I pay for Xbox live to play online. Thats why I will do for switch and its hella cheaper with extra shit.
I'm cool with it. The NES games would likely be 5 dollars a pop to buy individually, getting 20 out of the gate sounds like a great deal with more on the way later. They will have to expand to other systems eventually. Gameboy/Color/Advance and Snes all seem possible.
Nintendo only allows games to be stored on one console at a time. To install games on another console requires disabling the games from the first. They are advertising cloud saves as a way to back them up, not a way to save to the cloud and load to another device.
I didn't grow up with it either; this isn't just nostalgia talking. The games are largely straightforward, quick to get into, and fun. On at least two fronts, that's more than can be said for most modern games.
I think it might help to look more into the console's 1000+ game library before writing it off.
Love it.
I was less enthused when it was to be one rotating title per month, but there's a ton of potential for Ninflix, very curious to see how they grow it.
The price point makes up for any other shortcomings, in my mind.
I'm sorry guys, i really need the cloud saves. You can hate me if you want, i will completely understand.
Exactly. Because management seems to be completely out of touch with the modern world. It's laughable.
Still can't message friends.
Still can't invite friends in certain games like Fifa.
Still can't voice chat properly.
I don't care if it's cheaper, they're not offering the bare minimum.
I dont do that stuff anyway on Switch. I can use discord or XBL. Your bare minimum dont mean a damn thing to me. All I care about is playing online.
I don't care about online play, so I'm definitely not getting this unless 1) they offer a significantly better selection of retro games, and/or 2) the discounts on e-Shop purchases are worth it.
I'm curious, though: what do the people decrying this as the worst thing ever think about the online programs for Xbox and Playstation? Because frankly, I have no interest in paying significantly more to have an offering of more recent games I mostly don't want to play instead of retro ones I mostly don't want to play. I'm not thrilled about this program, but I still think the price makes it substantially better than something like PS Plus (of which I'm not a subscriber on my PS4, nor do I feel any interest in becoming one).
I'm curious, though: what do the people decrying this as the worst thing ever think about the online programs for Xbox and Playstation? Because frankly, I have no interest in paying significantly more to have an offering of more recent games I mostly don't want to play instead of retro ones I mostly don't want to play. I'm not thrilled about this program, but I still think the price makes it substantially better than something like PS Plus (of which I'm not a subscriber on my PS4, nor do I feel any interest in becoming one).
They want to keep people from being able to give a game to their friends for free. Doesn't seem laughably out of touch to me.
But that's half the reason to even have cloud saves so u can play Ur files on other consoles or friends consoles lol
I'm actually happy with the service. A growing library of classic games is appealing.
Gross
Maddening that we are not throwing childish tantrums and making a mountain out of a mole hill? Because this is exactly what it is. I get wanting local backup saves too for those that want it. That is a SEPARATE discussion however.
I am paying 20 bucks for a Netflix style service, starting with 20 games that will grow from there. Plus eshop exclusive discounts. Plus cloud saves. I see no issue.
I'm fine with it. Cloud saving was never really a big deal for me, so that's a nonfactor. I don't play a whole lot of multiplayer games so I'll probably pay as I need the service.
You've used the final version of the online app they are going to release in September? There hasn't been any hints that you can't message friends in the upcoming online service. But it does mention supporting "online messaging services"
So what? I used to pay $50 a year for PS plus. This shit less than $2 a month.
Yeah that would need to be adressed, i can already hear the the riots in the streets if pokemon doesn't support the feature.
I was more ok with this back when they originally announced it, which seems like ages ago. Now I'm used to playing Switch games online for free. I don't care about cloud saves, so this feels like being charged $20 for a bunch of mostly dated NES games that I've already played a thousand times. I understand they'll add more games later and I hope they do it in a way that makes this feel like a better value.
Really all I wanted from this was for Nintendo to add some kind of basic OS-level messaging system so friends can easily invite me to games I'm not already playing. Paying for an online system where my friend has to text me to ask if I want to play Rocket League because I am playing Wild Guns is just stupid.
Really all I wanted from this was for Nintendo to add some kind of basic OS-level messaging system so friends can easily invite me to games I'm not already playing. Paying for an online system where my friend has to text me to ask if I want to play Rocket League because I am playing Wild Guns is just stupid.
Nintendo's offer is access to cloud saves, online play and a bunch of NES games with online play for £18 a month. I, as a consumer, am happy with that offer and will gladly pay it.
Whatever issues you lot have with the service, keep the rest of us the fuck out of it. Implying that we're dragging the rest of you down with us is outright fucking insulting, we're adults who have made a decision for ourselves. If you're not happy, ok cool, you're absolutely entitled not to be. Shout, stamp your feet, do what you have to for as long as you have to, but keep your fucking finger pointing to yourselves.
Whatever issues you lot have with the service, keep the rest of us the fuck out of it. Implying that we're dragging the rest of you down with us is outright fucking insulting, we're adults who have made a decision for ourselves. If you're not happy, ok cool, you're absolutely entitled not to be. Shout, stamp your feet, do what you have to for as long as you have to, but keep your fucking finger pointing to yourselves.
I feel most people will pay for it for the low price and are more forgiving for the exclusion of features in XBL and PSN. But should be interested to see how many subscribe.
$20 for more than 20 NES games on your Switch might be the biggest sale for most people than continuing to play online.
$20 for more than 20 NES games on your Switch might be the biggest sale for most people than continuing to play online.
There hasn't been a single hint that you can. They've detailed Switch online and there wasn't a single mention of it, why would I assume that you'll be able to but they just couldn't be bothered telling us?
It's still a crap service where you have to pay to not have features all the other systems have for free.
Microsoft, Sony and Steam/PC have found a way to operate within this modern feature(s).
seriously. Because I dont find value in sending a message I am bending over? I feel like I'm defending my stance for liking it instead of Nintendo.
I don't want to play NES Soccer. No one does. Charging any amount for it is too much.
They will do better.
Given time and money.
Seriously, people freaking out over anything Nintendo announces that isn't exactly according to their own unrealistic projections is always a sight to see.
They haven't "detailed" Switch Online, they've mentioned a few features and said that they were going to reveal more about it later on. And the site does say it supports "messaging services"
I definitely think the factor of being able to play online will be a lot bigger once Smash and Pokemon come out, considering how huge their online scene is. Nintendo could've included literally nothing in this and just asked for money and those people would still pay for it. Pokemon fans already do with the Pokemon Bank thing.
not sure what the point of bringing ps or xbox into this is
You get a lot more features in free mode and paid on ps4 and tons of free games around 6 to 8 monthly across ps4 ps3 and ps vita let alone already established party chat and lots of video and music service and a competent browser
I have less experience with xbox live but I'm sure it is significantly more online feature rich than Nintendo's offering and also has a few games each quarter or so with gwg and now are offering bc with og xbox and 360 so there is obviously far more valur proposition from an old games content invariably here
I honestly dont care about those features other than playing online so get out of here with that