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Nintendo Switch Online: New Info (Cloud Saves, 20 NES games, Family Plan)
- Thread starter Atheerios
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What would really be welcome is if they just let the phone app be a bluetooth connector that lets the voice chat come through the audio with the game audio. Something like that should be possible, right? The phone receives audio (your chat) and sends it to other phones which send that audio to the bluetooth attached console.
I love how you align yourself with investors rather than other people who may game on Nintendo in this thread.
Wouldn't trust investors or news sites to be making positive changes to gamers.
A) I'm not aligning myself with anyone, I'm laughing at the huge divide between the two groups. I think the requirement of the app is still utter bullshit and them holding saves hostage behind a paywall is even bullshittier.
B) I am actually an investor. As an investor I see this is going to make them a hell of a lot of money, despite the protests from forums like this.
If it means getting those features, then so be it. Nintendo needs to catch up on these standards.
Those are obviously the best points of comparison as to whether Nintendo's offering is something on-par with what's already available in the market.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most of those features have nothing to do with those platform's paid service, rendering them moot to the discussion. Also, I wouldn't call the PS4 browser "competent" by any stretch of the imagination, but I suppose your mileage may vary.
As for the actual benefits, the games (which are obviously not free, as they're included in your monthly fee) seem to be the one perk you've listed (EDIT: and obviously online perks such as party chat, but we still have no true idea how that will work on Switch, so there's no point of comparison). As I said in my original post, Nintendo obviously offers games as well, and if this first month is anything to go by, in much larger quantities - albeit retro games, but for an extremely smaller fee. As far as my personal preferences are concerned, I'd much rather pay much less and get random retro games instead of much more and get random recent ones, as considering both Nintendo's initial games and the usual PS+ month, the vast majority of the titles on offer won't be stuff I'm actually interested in.
Of course, that is considering a similar quality of in-game online connection, but that's obviously something that can't be judged until Nintendo's service goes live.
So I'm still confused why some people seem to think other console online paid services are a better deal when they cost significantly more and in turn offer an extra benefit (in the form of "modern" games) that is by no means an objective measure of quality. Mind you, I think all of them are close to a ripoff in current terms, but as I said, if I absolutely have to pay in order to get access to online, I'd much rather pay much less and make do with a retro game selection which includes some all-time masterpieces.
And then there will be people bitching that it costs too much. There was backlash with PS+ too.
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Christ, keep letting them shovel total shit into your mouth then. Lap up the slop graciously whilst you're at it.
Fuck me.
Well that's kinda a silly argument. I can steal games too but that doesn't mean it's right.
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I'd rather pay more for something than something for nothing
Backlash that lead to nothing. It's time for Nintendo to catch up.
If this had:
(I'm still getting this anyway as I can't do without online in Pokémon. Yes I know that I am part of the problem.)
- a way to backup your saves to a physical device for non-subscribers
- system level voice chat
- a system level messaging app
- the ability to download your games to more than one system simultaneously
(I'm still getting this anyway as I can't do without online in Pokémon. Yes I know that I am part of the problem.)
I think a lot of people on this forum are underappreciating just how big a draw a library of NES with added online features will be to the average Switch owner, particularly if the library does continue to grow like Nintendo has promised. Look at how huge the NES classic was, without online functionality. I think a lot of people would pay $20/year for that service alone. I mean, even with just the initial 20 games, you're still only paying $1/year per game vs. $5/game in VC. It'd take 5 years for the VC to be the cheaper option, and by then the library of available games will (hopefully) be much larger.
I'm curious about how good the "special offers" will be. I remember beforehand they called it eshop discounts... Even if the discounts are rather small the minor price of entry for the subscription will probably make it cheaper overall to subscribe, depending on how many games you get.
Could I ask, people keep mentioning this 'NES Classics' branding as a sort of replacement for Virtual Console. Where are people getting this from? Isn't it NES: Nintendo Switch Online?
One could arguee even less since it will have exclusive discounts. Without counting the fact that with just 2 people is already cheaper to get a family option
Also this is from their PR:
So clearly there's a way to retrieve saves on a new system, even if they're encrypted.
Same! I'm already ok with the value I'll get for $20/year, but the discounts could make that even better for me. Combine that with the rewards program and we'll be cooking with gas.
It's not when you're constantly seeing people defend a crap service because it's cheap. Seeing everybody defending absolute rubbish just because it's Nintendo is incredibly frustrating to read.
I never realized their didn't actually say all 20 games. I'd be more curious if there more than maybe 2 NES games I might want to play.
Ah, there it is then, right in front of me lol. Glad that's settled, thanks. Gotta wonder about the people who don't want to retrieve their data if they lose, break or purchase an additional Switch, what is great for them? ;)
Who are you to make a value judgement for other people?
Do you really think that somebody looks at what Nintendo offers at the price they are offering it and say "I would pay 20 bucks for that?" If so, that's borderline delusional. That's not how value proposition works.
No, i think you need to tack a step back from this online discussion, no matter how anyone feels about this service, their opinion shouldn't warrant you likening them to eating shit. it sounds incredibly childish. they have found value were you obviously don't and there is nothing wrong with that.
Yeah I'm betting if you buy enough games in a year the service will pay for itself fairly easily.
Agree 100%. I would be more okay with paying PS+ prices for an online featureset Sony and Microsoft offer over paying $20 a year for almost nothing. I don't care about being able to play a copy of Ice climber that I don't own. Having a way to back up saves should be free, even if it's not cloud based.
It's 1/3 of the price of there competitors, even if is lacking in some areas, this reaction feels a bit hypocriticle
The only thing I care about in this feature list is cloud saves, so I'd literally be paying to store my saves online since I don't care about mp or the NES games. Pretty bonkers, paying for a service that should be a free update or should've been available at launch.
The NES Classic contained a bunch of 3rd party games, so ... who knows. It's certainly possible, especially if there won't be another way to purchase NES games.
What about the "special offers" which were previously called "exclusive discounts"?
I expect Nintendo will push a firmware update to allow save backup to SD card eventually. So a physical device thats down to you to own, which im sure 99% of switch owners will, period. The cloud saves are for the lazy and rich!
This. I want Nintendo to actually get with modern times. People actively cheering anti-consumer and terrible policies is stupid. Nintendo seems to be the only company where people are actually happy with crap policies and shitty decisions. No other company would get away with this.
If Sony or Microsoft was offering this level of services in 2018, gamers on those systems wouldn't accept it. Nintendo is about two generations behind with regards to online features. We knew there were problems last year but I expected Nintendo to deliver a fully-fledged online service once they started charging. People saying, "well it's only $20", I say this- you're paying $20 for an extremely substandard level of service. I'd pay $60/year for a standard level of service; I already have 2 XBL subs and a PSN sub for my family as it is. Having a "discounted" price for crap service is not a selling point, to me. What Nintendo is offering here isn't worth any amount of money. Zero. Zilch. NES games? LOL is that a joke?
I think I may sell my Switch now since they are still fetching good money on Craigslist. This year has been particularly bad for games on the system and while I like Smash, the killer app for me is going to be Metroid. I'll just rebuy the system when that comes out next year. Splatoon 2 gets a lot of play in my house still but this online plan is trash, it's a slap in the face on top of the other problems with the Switch.
Yes. That's what Sony has done, and Playstation Network is a fine online service now, just about as good as Live, which is the gold standard IMO.
I think I may sell my Switch now since they are still fetching good money on Craigslist. This year has been particularly bad for games on the system and while I like Smash, the killer app for me is going to be Metroid. I'll just rebuy the system when that comes out next year. Splatoon 2 gets a lot of play in my house still but this online plan is trash, it's a slap in the face on top of the other problems with the Switch.
Yes. That's what Sony has done, and Playstation Network is a fine online service now, just about as good as Live, which is the gold standard IMO.