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Nintendo took down a Smash stage containing trans flag and suspended the player that posted it because it was considered a "political statement"

vestan

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Dec 28, 2017
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Ninty what are you doinggggg

I want to believe that this was just a mistake






At the moment it seems to have only affected one stage, there's still several out there like this. Probably just a case of trolls mass reporting them.

 
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Imran

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Oct 24, 2017
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Checking on it, there's plenty of stage builder stages that are up and have been since launch that have the same Trans Rights message or the Trans flag.

My guess is that this one got reported a lot and someone made a dumb call on it.
 

RecRoulette

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Automatic flagging perhaps?

Something similar happened in Splatoon 2 if I remember right

Edit: I'm dumb, didn't read the escalation
 

Agar25

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Thats shameful. Cue the Nintendo can do no wrong defense force in 3..2...1...
 

Jamie

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Nintendo's the only one making a statement by taking down that stage, and it's not a good one.
 
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vestan

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Checking on it, there's plenty of stage builder stages that are up and have been since launch that have the same Trans Rights message or the Trans flag.

My guess is that this one got reported a lot and someone made a dumb call on it.
Automatic flagging perhaps?

Something similar happened in Splatoon 2 if I remember right
"political statement" violating Nintendo's TOS is news to me tbh. Also if it was an automatic suspension you'd think customer service would remove it but that doesn't seem to be the case. The user in question got in touch with customer support and the supervisor told them to contact corporate.
 

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Checking on it, there's plenty of stage builder stages that are up and have been since launch that have the same Trans Rights message or the Trans flag.

My guess is that this one got reported a lot and someone made a dumb call on it.
It’s a bad look for them and they need to get their moderation in order.
Until they publicly comment on this, this is a shitty move made by a company that already has a shaky track record with this kind of thing.
 

RecRoulette

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"political statement" violating Nintendo's TOS is news to me tbh. Also if it was an automatic suspension you'd think customer service would remove it but that doesn't seem to be the case. The user in question got in touch with customer support and the supervisor told them to contact corporate.
The first time I read it the OP didn't load all of the twitter links so I didn't see the escalation to customer service, I just saw the last screenshot
 

Bookkoo

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And they allow penises on there and take down this?
They are taking everything down, not that i agree with them taking this down. I don't want people to think they are turning a blind eye to the idiots that are giving them a reason to not give us a proper online experience.

However this was probably flagged but should not have been taken down
 

Mushroomer25

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"political statement" violating Nintendo's TOS is news to me tbh. Also if it was an automatic suspension you'd think customer service would remove it but that doesn't seem to be the case. The user in question got in touch with customer support and the supervisor told them to contact corporate.
I imagine Customer Support doesn't have the authority to lift a ban.

Odds are this was just idiots reporting this, and Nintendo's system automatically removes content after a certain number of reports. Which is in of itself, a gigantic flaw in their infrastructure.

I imagine this gets reversed sometime next week.
 

Version 3.0

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It's only political because right-wing politicians decided to make it political. By that logic, anything can be made political. Hell, video games themselves are political, including that time when Nintendo teamed up with Congress to tag-team Sega.
 

jviggy43

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Oct 28, 2017
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Nintendo once again proving they have no idea what online functionality should consist of. Why would political statements even be problematic if they're not hate speech targeting anyone anyway?
 

Aters

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Not surprised, Nintendo Japan is extremely apolitical. I remember reading a banned Japanese word list for Nintendo account ID and it contains mostly anything related to politics, good or bad.
 

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Like everything, they only remove what is reported. They don't go out of their way to remove it, but they also will remove it without caring due to the "political nature" of it.
It was the same for multiple similar posts on the Splatoon 2 plaza months ago.
 

steviejd1

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Obviously a poor decision in this case, hopefully it gets reversed.

They are moderating a lot of the actual bad stuff too so can we not jump to conclusions some have in this thread so far.
 

muteKi

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I don't know which possibility is the more optimistic one: was this was the result of a mass flagging system working independently of human oversight, or did a human moderator OK taking this down?

Alternate overly-snarky, mean-spirited take: wow gee no wonder Nintendo was so happy to cover for Atlus with that lyrics debacle
 

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Obviously a poor decision in this case, hopefully it gets reversed.

They are moderating a lot of the actual bad stuff too so can we not jump to conclusions some have in this thread so far.
Moderating the bad stuff is the bare minimum expected when you have a service like this going. It doesn’t negate the fact that basic human decency is apparently ban worthy now because “politics”.
 

The Dink

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Is it considered a political statement because of the "Now" moniker? Because there's still the exact same stage available under the name "Trans Rights" with over 4000 "yeahs". Still pretty shitty to remove it. Especially since "Got 'Em" is still available.