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Nintendo took down a Smash stage containing trans flag and suspended the player that posted it because it was considered a "political statement"
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This is the answer. They're moderating thousands of stages per day, shit happens. This is obviously not Nintendo taking a stance, it's just some moderation teammember being overzealous or an automated system.
C'mon, Nintendo. I expect so much more than this puritanical garbage.
Ironically, silencing people calling for equal rights is a political action.
Unfortunately, they 100% are. They shouldn't be, but they most certainly are.
this is my guess as well, i don't think they have any anti-trans stance. most likely it was a mistake.
Sure I agree, but it is still moderated by humans, whether manual moderating or automatic with a program that was built by a human and humans make mistakes. The moderation team here doesn't get every decision right do they?
I would agree with you if every stage (or at least a large majority) with anything to do with trans rights had been taken down.
whether it was falsely reported or not, accepting pro-trans content as "politically" flagged speaks volumes about nintendo's view on trans rights.
Well it speaks volumes about the moderators sho are probably just told to take down political content and interpret these as such. I'm actually not sure what Nintendo's official policy is on the flag. Like I said earlier, Splatoon is filled with LGBT art
Nope.
Consider for a second that someone in the moderation team just made a bad call after a stage has been reported, potentially.
Again, this was 100% a mistake, just search up "trans" on the stage builder stuff, here is just a page of stages still there
As of right now, I don't have any reason to believe the other stages wouldn't get taken down if there were enough reports for them, especially given the shitty "politics" reason they spouted.
I hope they backtrack on this publicly.
So overreaction as usual then?Again, this was 100% a mistake, just search up "trans" on the stage builder stuff, here is just a page of stages still there
Anything Donkey Kong (particularly 64) would make the most sense considering the relatively recent Hbomberguy stream
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yeah, unless they soon start taking all of these down i'd say that was just a [pretty bad and shitty] mistake and i hope it doesn't happen again.Again, this was 100% a mistake, just search up "trans" on the stage builder stuff, here is just a page of stages still there
Don't you think that they probably already have had many reports about similar stages? There are some very popular trans rights stages and they haven't been taken down and surely they would be targeted the most.
Again, if many more are taken down then I would completely agree with you.
All the posts in this thread implying that basically Nintendo is doing it on all stages and all the "fuck off etc" due to the OP without the updated info showing it's just a few stages.
it was a bad decision by the moderation team (or just one person) relegated to one particular stage. until we get more evidence of other trans rights stages being taken down I think everyone needs to relax and see what happens. if they're intentionally trying to silence people speaking out for trans rights, that is reprehensible but until we have more to go on I think it's too early to say that for sure.
The posts implying this is some corporate policy of Nintendo and expected when there's no actual evidence of any such thing
Obviously a bad look, and they need to talk to whoever made the final decision on this ban.They ought to release a public statement saying this was a mistake & that they are welcoming & inclusive to all genders, etc.. But this *appears* to be a one-off given the # of levels that are still up right now featuring trans rights messages. Don't think the vitriol in this thread is particularly productive, but it's no surprise given ERA's tendencies.
Will have to see how this transpires going forward. Will they make an official statement or will they just leave it be.
So far this is the only public case we have so I wanna see if more pop up or its just moderation making a bad mistake.
So far this is the only public case we have so I wanna see if more pop up or its just moderation making a bad mistake.
9 times out of 10, it's out of their hands re: software related bans since those aren't something CS has direct access to, unlike hardware stuff.
Ask Nintendo customer support who took it down because it was a "political statement".
Bingo.
And folks are saying Splatoon 2 did this and it was reversed? I think I remember that. Why would Splatoon 2 be pro-Trans but not Smash? It's gotta be a mistake, especially as pointed above there's loads of Trans Rights stages still up.
I'll hope this is an honest mistake and they walk it back, but if they choose to just stay silent and hope it blows over, that would speak volumes.
