Nintendo Treehouse Live: E3 2019

Oct 26, 2017
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I really don't get Nintendo sometimes. The Astral Chain trailers all made it look like the game was extremely action-heavy and almost stage-based. The second Treehouse footage now shows this pretty large city segment that is almost hidden in the trailers.
Goddamn, they're seriously underselling this game.
 

Instro

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Trials of Mana indeed looks so fantastic. I'm still blown away at getting the original via Collection and a remake, too. What a dream come true for fans.

I have to wonder, though -- how did this happen? How did this remake get greenlit ahead of something like an FFIV, V, VI or Chrono Trigger remake at this level of quality? Those were all assuredly bigger games (commercially, financially, everything-ally), and I imagine would have been surer bets on name recognition alone.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not complaining at all. This looks AMAZING and I'm so happy it exists. Just wondering how the hell it happened.
The Mana series still has champions/sponsors within the company whereas something like Chrono does not. On top of that it was probably seen as a reasonable idea because they were already going through the process and expense of localizing the original game. As for FF5 and 6 I'm sure it's something they've wanted to do over the years, just not gotten around to for various reasons. Long term I wouldn't be surprised if we see some remakes/sequels for those games you mentioned. I can imagine this game doing well would help the case for it.

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To expand on that last point, ToM seems like a medium budget remake so to speak, so I think positive reception to a game that looks good without blowing up into some AAA project probably helps to reopen the door to some other remakes or new games in series that can't command a AAA budget.
 
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Chaos17

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I really don't get Nintendo sometimes. The Astral Chain trailers all made it look like the game was extremely action-heavy and almost stage-based. The second Treehouse footage now shows this pretty large city segment that is almost hidden in the trailers.
Goddamn, they're seriously underselling this game.
The first trailer was good but the second one they showed at this E3 was indeed underselling the game.
I've to admit it did put me off until I saw the Tree house demo and my hype I had for the first trailer came back :D
 

JoRu

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Oct 25, 2017
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I also feel I've noticed that the Treehouse length has shortened this year. Like, they've only been going up to 2-3pm. Where as E3 Expo is open to 6pm I believe? In the past I swear they used to go all the way until the Expo itself closed.

Maybe their employees felt that was too much time and effort
Don't know how it compares to last year, but the first couple of years after starting doing Treehouse Live they streamed longer. Used to be lots more repeats of games back then, though.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The first trailer was good but the second one they showed at this E3 was indeed underselling the game.
I've to admit it did put me off until I saw the Tree house demo and my hype I had for the first trailer came back :D
Yeah, the first trailer was a great introduction to the concept but they really need to emphasize the exploration/RPG elements more. And we still haven't seen the two-player mode, I think.
 

Squid Bunny

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Nintendo twitter reaffirming that tomorrow is solely Indie Day:

I also feel I've noticed that the Treehouse length has shortened this year. Like, they've only been going up to 2-3pm. Where as E3 Expo is open to 6pm I believe? In the past I swear they used to go all the way until the Expo itself closed.

Maybe their employees felt that was too much time and effort
Don't know how it compares to last year, but the first couple of years after starting doing Treehouse Live they streamed longer. Used to be lots more repeats of games back then, though.
I felt at times in the past years that they ended up redoing a lot of stuff and it was pretty repetitive. By Day 3 there was almost no reason to watch the stream since it would basically be a repeat of everything we saw already.
 

Barely Able

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I felt at times in the past years that they ended up redoing a lot of stuff and it was pretty repetitive. By Day 3 there was almost no reason to watch the stream since it would basically be a repeat of everything we saw already.
I concur. I think they used to go up to 4:30 most days, but by day 3 it was essentially repeating the same demos from earlier. It seems like this year they are better at showing different slices of their demoed games. Hopefully the indie day will lead to a few announcements. My personal favorite segment from last year was the DK/Sky Skipper reveal/history lesson. I know that’s not indie but would like more stuff like that for tomorrow.
 

Mory Dunz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Next Level Games moving up in the nintendo dev tier list. Wow. Not that they were ever low.

betting time,
LM3 over or under 10 million LTD
 

Phendrift

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Next Level Games moving up in the nintendo dev tier list. Wow. Not that they were ever low.

betting time,
LM3 over or under 10 million LTD
Just a bit under, I think. Dark Moon was like 6 million, Switch boost should get another 2-3?

Speaking of sales I really hope Link’s Awakening outsells ALBW significantly. I need 2D Zelda to stand tall right with 3D Zelda, as Mario does. What are y’all thinking with that one?
 

lovecatt

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Mory Dunz

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Just a bit under, I think. Dark Moon was like 6 million, Switch boost should get another 2-3?

Speaking of sales I really hope Link’s Awakening outsells ALBW significantly. I need 2D Zelda to stand tall right with 3D Zelda, as Mario does. What are y’all thinking with that one?
Celine's thread had ABLW at 3.71m
LA is hard to predict. My range for it is 4-5m. Going too much above 5 would be surprising, but Zelda is surprising lately.

Yea Dark Moon is at 5.75 per that thread.
I'm not quite ready to dive into 10m, but I think LM3 will be huge.

Under for sure. I had Luigi’s Mansion 3 selling around 7 million.
7, let's go bigger.
 

jams

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Nov 6, 2017
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How did Daemon x Machina look? I saw the improvements it got but how does the co-op look?
I thought it actually looked pretty great! The game looks like it's faster and more responsive than the demo, but obviously it's hard to say without playing. I'm still pretty pumped for it though!

The co-op seemed good, especially when fighting the colossal immortal as a group. There seemed to be legitimate strategic co-operative play, in that everyone had different loadouts that served different purposes, and you needed to coordinate on attacking weakpoints and such.
 
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Stryda

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I thought it actually looked pretty great! The game looks like it's faster and more responsive than the demo, but obviously it's hard to say without playing. I'm still pretty pumped for it though!

The co-op seemed good, especially when fighting the colossal immortal as a group. There seemed to be legitimate strategic co-operative play, in that everyone had different loadouts that served different purposes, and you needed to coordinate on attacking weakpoints and such.
I'm not much of a stickler for graphics/framerate but I'd like to know how well the fps held in solo and co-op. Saw some people saying co-op looks rough?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Geeze, NIntendo is destroying Xbox & Sony in terms of new games coming out this year. Anyways, watched the Fire Emblem: 3 houses & Marvel UA 3 treehouse videos and I have to say, Fire Emblem is going to be a very strong contender for GOTY this year. Planning to buy Luigi Manson 3. Sucks we can't use a voucher to buy it.

First Fire Emblem; Even by watching the video, it looks DEEP in terms of strategy and how you can build your team. The school aspect the game is an excellent idea and you can easily get lost (in a good way). What I love about that feature though is that you will care for those characters and that's huge in a strategy war game like this. The more you develop that character, the more determined and careful you will be in battle to make sure he/she will survive. To me, that's really important in strategy and even in RPG games. Graphic wise, I love it. The characters in the school (beginning part) looks great and it shows that the designers took great care in creating those characters.

Lastly, the battles. I read that some didn't like the looks of the map/world/terrain. Honestly, I didn't mind it as to me, it looked like they were going w/ a mix of an anime and real world look. The actual battle cut-scenes/sequences look great and I love close the camera gets.

Second; Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. I love the marvel universe but the treehouse demo's didn't sell me on the game. Love the comic book look of the graphics and how many characters from the Marvel universe there is. However, I'm not really sure how it will work in single player mode is this game screams play with 4 players. Disappointed that they had to involve the infinity stones in the story as I wish they went in a totally different direction as I got a bad feeling that Thanos will be the last boss in the game (enough of him already honestly). Definitely not a fan of the "trials" levels or feature of the game and worried that getting A or the highest level to unlock new characters will be frustrating in single player mode.

Buying the 2 voucher deal this weekend and I think i'm going w/ Mario Maker 2 and Fire Emblem: 3 houses. Even though I usually stink in strategy games, I really enjoyed the IOS version and what they are doing in FE: 3 houses, has me sold and excited. Just hope I don't miss my bus stop while playing this on the bus on the way to work or home.
 

Seik

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Oct 27, 2017
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Check Wal-Mart, it's 64.99$CAD during E3.


Grabbed it there with Astral Chain at the same price.
I buy digital. this way I can't lose the cartridge (knowing my luck) or don't have to swap cartridges. It was either LA or FE: 3 houses for my second game w/ the vouchers the gameplay on from the treehouse sold me on Fire Emblem.
 

jams

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I buy digital. this way I can't lose the cartridge (knowing my luck) or don't have to swap cartridges. It was either LA or FE: 3 houses for my second game w/ the vouchers the gameplay on from the treehouse sold me on Fire Emblem.
If you have Nintendo Switch Online, you can get the vouchers which is basically two games for around 60 each. That's what I'm gonna do.

EDIT - Didn't read properly, my bad. Ignore this.
 

skittzo0413

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm kinda surprised there's not more hype on this forum in general for Astral Chain. Usually Platinum stuff gets a lot of attention here but I feel like this is slipping by.

Which is crazy because after the gameplay they showed yesterday and today it's easily looking like the game of the show for me.
 

Dark Cloud

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm kinda surprised there's not more hype on this forum in general for Astral Chain. Usually Platinum stuff gets a lot of attention here but I feel like this is slipping by.

Which is crazy because after the gameplay they showed yesterday and today it's easily looking like the game of the show for me.
I’ve been trying to push it lol. This and Luigi’s Mansion 3 are my favorite games n
 

foxuzamaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’ve been trying to push it lol. This and Luigi’s Mansion 3 are my favorite games n
I made a thread to push it, and itz turning out well, already on the 2nd pay, I'm gonna make one for DxM aswell matbe tomorrow since its getting late and im thinking of making one foe fire emblem aswell but dont know how to push it because theres alot of info given
 

Mory Dunz

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I have to say this again ,Trials of Mana looks good.

only downside is no multiplayer. I get it, but oh well.

I've beaten the game like 2.5 or 3.5 times, but I'm curious about the voice acting for the big scenes.
since you can choose whatever character and order.
The story obviously has the same general story beats once you get your 3rd member, but certain story stuff has a deviation based on your party.
Like Duran and a certain enemy. The cut scenes are somewhat different.
So that will be interesting.
It looks like a solid 7.5 mid tier JRPG, but I'm so day one. Out of nostalgia and everything lol.

we know it's gonna cost 50 bucks tho.
SOM collection is 40 lol.
Lost Sphyear is 50.
So now way this is less than 50. Maybe even 60 knowing square.
 

xyla

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have to say the Lucky game looks pretty good by now. Movement and camera are on point and the style is also okay.

I just think it all looks too nice. The best collectathons gave us memorable characters on top of things to collect too. Lucky looks very bland as a protagonist to me and a lot of the folks populating his worlds do too. It doesn't feel like an 'all ages' game but very much catering to the very young. If the gameplay is excellent, I might still buy but otherwise this isn't necessarily for me.