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NIS America: Switch sales double of simultaneous PS4 versions, Disgaea 5C near 200k in the west
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Yeah, but they are still be called out for "only caring about big publishers" That makes Sony look bad and they don't want that image out.
Well none of the big 3 are.
The only people who think so are fan boys.
Phil went to japan etc
Yeah that's ideally why but it's hard to have any faith in Nintendo on that front,
You know that they're not guaranteed to be number 1 forever right? They'd do well to not let their success get to their head just because they've outsold their competition for now. Arrogance took down Atari, it took down Sega, it torpedoed Nintendo 64, handicapped the PS3 and Vita, and gave us the Xbox One.
I doubt the call out would have happened if Switch games weren't selling so much better for them. Their "papa" is whoever brings them the bucks.
call-out because papa Sony got replaced with hard cold cash from papa Nintendo
Everyone gets arrogant every now and again. But I think we can safely say Sony isn't gonna get PS3-level arrogant again after the PS3 wiped out a lot of what they earned from the PS1/PS2 or that Nintendo won't get Wii-level arrogant again after how awfully the Wii U bombed. When the next PS and Xbox come out, I feel that the gap will be a lot more close for the Big 3 as opposed to how lopsided it was this gen and thus all of them will have to go a bit more out of their way to sell or continue to sell their system. At any rate, in this case, I feel like this is just a case of Sony having having larger and more publishers to focus on compared to Nintendo, especially with the PS4 being such a big success, more so than Sony becoming arrogant. I'm sure they'll curate smaller publishers going into the PS5 like they did with the PS4 early on
Sony killing Vita and not pushing small to niche Japanese publishers probably angered not only NISA.
Don't really have insight, but I think it's like what Phantom Thief said. Nintendo is just providing units and distribution for NISA and SNK to get more support in the future and have a good relationship with them. They have had trouble with third party support in the past, so this is them getting a good relationship with NISA and providing them more incentive to bring their games to Switch. It helps their titles are doing well on the platform too.
I think having larger publishers to push is fine, and is a reality if a successful console business. Actively and publicly pushing away smaller developers after attempting to foster them to kickstart your new console burns bridges, though, and could come back to haunt them later.
Sony will never be PS3 level arrogant again- but arrogance of any degree could still be dangerous, not just for them, but for any of the big three.
Well, I can't blame Sony for wanting the best and PS4 userbase is not supporting these smaller games enough.
We were fed up with these smaller Japanese titles in hordes on PS3 and most of them were not good.
I guess so.
No offense to snk, but from the outside they seem low on the importance scale.
And you'd think Nintendo would at least try to get KOF 14 if we're talking SNK. Otherwise its a big meh to me. Unless there's a deal in place for kof
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Nevermind I guess this makes sense.
Getting too caught up on the game.
Those are very niche games to begin with. . Nintendo ordering a couple thousand of units is probably already enough to minimize the risk of publishing/distribution by a lot and they have the infrastructure in place.
Switch is a newer system - Nintendo is always looking for devs and games they can push as exclusives. Especially if the game looks like it might perform best on Switch anyways.
For NIS/SNK it's a big deal, for Nintendo it was just a Wednesday.
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I definitely think Arcade Archives REALLY got Nintendo's attention towards SNK. I also wonder about the wording if SNK have MORE Switch exclusives with Nintendo planned.
The King of Fighters XV?! O_o
But are they actively pushing away smaller developers or just not giving them as much of a focus? Not to say that them treating NISA poorly is fine, far from it, but I get the impression it's more so the latter than anything else. I won't be surprised and do expect that this will in some way hurt the support these smaller publishers and developers have for Sony in that it'll lead them to supporting the Switch more but I do hope that maybe Sony will try and give them more attention than they have been latelu
Definitely agree that even a small bit of arrogance is harmful. I don't want to see Nintendo or Sony make more notable mistakes out of arrogance
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Can you imagine how Capcom would look if they lost the "Nintendo VS." game to SNK? :P
I think we'd all be feeling like Capcom if a Nintendo VS game happened with SNK over them :(
Ya, it can't be denied that Sony now is getting complacent and not really supporting smaller/nicher publisher like they used to during PS3/ early PS4 era.
I'm also not sure if there's a change in Falcom or it's Sony dwindling support, but Sen no Kiseki 2 got simultaneous launch for Jpn and Asian version mainly due to Sony's support.
Sen no Kiseki 3, after half a year, still has no Chinese/Korean version or even any announcement of whether it's coming.
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I'm surprised an actual Capcom VS Namco hasn't happened (not counting Monolith's games). So arguably a Nintendo VS. Namco is actually extremely fitting, literally most out of all companies Nintendo could do this with, even more than Sega I feel.
What would make Nintendo VS SNK different from having one or two SNK reps in Smash Bros? I guess if they made it a more traditional fighting game?
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Well yeah I think it'd be the idea, basically like SNK Heroines/KOF14. But obviously with a much bigger budget with Nintendo's full backing.
Friendship ended wity SONY.
Now NINTENDO is my best friend.
Seriously tho, that's a pretty wild interview haha. I did find the SNK Heroines push fairly weird from Nintendo initially but now it all makes sense, good for SNK and NISA.
Pretty happy with NIS finding success thanks to the Switch more than anything, I'm very fond of their output and have always thought they deserve better. Here's to a bright future on the platform (please bring the rest of your back catalog too!)
Now NINTENDO is my best friend.
Seriously tho, that's a pretty wild interview haha. I did find the SNK Heroines push fairly weird from Nintendo initially but now it all makes sense, good for SNK and NISA.
Pretty happy with NIS finding success thanks to the Switch more than anything, I'm very fond of their output and have always thought they deserve better. Here's to a bright future on the platform (please bring the rest of your back catalog too!)
There are probably quite a number of smaller Japanese studios that found success on Vita, and are now real unhappy that Sony abandoned the Vita(and thus them), especially as we see quite a number of Good Vita sellers struggle to match the success on PS4.
But i understand why Sony does it.
They realized that they cant really find much more success in Japan with these smaller Japanese companies, so they focus on the japanese games that sell well to the western audience.
Now that I'd actually be genuinely interested in. Namco Bandai, Capcom, or SEGA are the ones whom I felt would be the best choice for a crossover fighter with Nintendo or with each other. Kinda weird that Capcom didn't make other VS games with other publishers, now that you bring it up
Fire Emblem X Samurai Shodown is DEFINITELY confirmed then
NISA wants to be as loved as big Japanese companies.
It's never going to happen, SIEA has been the same since they were known as SCEA. They only cared about big hits or their own quirky titles they localized to the west.
PS2 era SCEA was just ugly. They stone walled third party titles Design Works wanted to publish on PS2 in America. PS1 era SCEA was more like PS4 SIEA they only cared about big hits from Japan and didn't even bothered to bring their Arc the Lad series to west because it was in 2D. Design Works localized the entire trilogy which SCEA gave them permission to. PS2 SCEA was terrible for any publisher whether you were big or small.
Reggie likes them Waifus.
And maybe they saw how well these SNK arcade games were selling(were they not over a million already ?) and thought that maybe the same people would want a new game with some of these characters.
While i definitively dont want it to happen, i do worry that Sony could try to push VR as a integrated part of the PS5, bringing the price up for something that i firmly believe is just not ready for another 8-10 years.
But yes, i do think that next "gen" will be much closer, simply because i think the Switch will become a family of systems that Nintendo will support/develop for at least 3 "gens", and that MS might finally have found their place in the market(with the XB1X, as the highest end almost PC machine) especially if they finally just let people install some form of Steam on Xbox.
Won't stop being amusing to me that the Switch is basically a fusion of Wii U and Vita, two flop platforms, and yet is enjoying such healthy sales, both hardware and software.
I think smaller "niche" Japanese pubs really mesh well with the kind of Nintendo portfolio that Nintendo seems to be building on Switch. The platform is all about Nintendo's unique offerings, complemented by a large selection of indies and niche games. There's a lot of fantastic development going on in those realms right now that gets overlooked on more crowded platforms, but Nintendo seems to be building a strategy around signal-boosting them and cultivating an active consumer base that appreciates them. The same kind of audience was cultivated naturally on the Vita, but Sony never seemed to take notice of it. They were happy to just keep collecting the licencing revenue and completely ignore the platform.
I think smaller "niche" Japanese pubs really mesh well with the kind of Nintendo portfolio that Nintendo seems to be building on Switch. The platform is all about Nintendo's unique offerings, complemented by a large selection of indies and niche games. There's a lot of fantastic development going on in those realms right now that gets overlooked on more crowded platforms, but Nintendo seems to be building a strategy around signal-boosting them and cultivating an active consumer base that appreciates them. The same kind of audience was cultivated naturally on the Vita, but Sony never seemed to take notice of it. They were happy to just keep collecting the licencing revenue and completely ignore the platform.
With this and how they're willing to fund yet another Bayonetta sequel as well, someone there is horny.
Building relationships with companies. If it means Nintendo has to pull a deal for an SNK Waifu game to then secure exclusivity later for something like the SNK 40th Anniversary collection, it's more of an investment for the future.
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So SNK Heroines (Switch) will get a wider retail release than just the NISA store, whereas the PS4 physical version is limited to NISA store?
When you rush to shitpost but end up embarrassing yourself.
Is Nintendo anti consumer too because they got exclusive physical version?
You want to show proof of this and your other comments in the thread? Or are you just making up stuff?
I think he's talking about the built in memory it uses if you don't have a memory card.
