https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...g-dont-go-on-holiday-after-march-29-jnfmrgsj9
Get out now while you still can, UK-Era!!
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No-deal Brexit travel warning: don’t go on holiday after March 29
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Get out now while you still can, UK-Era!!
I assume they mean don't book now for a holiday after March as no-one knows how the border will work, not that we'll all be banned from leaving the country from March 30th. Hopefully these kind of stories will keep putting the pressure on to call the whole thing off.
This has already been the position in our household for some time - we're not booking anything until the dust has settled and we know what terms the UK will exist on. Even if I were an optimist and believed in a favourable outcome of the negotiations, the pound is far too volatile at the moment.
There is, at least, the schadenfreude of the inevitable shocked gammons who didn't realise their leave vote might actually have an impact on their Benidorm holidays.
There is, at least, the schadenfreude of the inevitable shocked gammons who didn't realise their leave vote might actually have an impact on their Benidorm holidays.
Hunt being PM would be a fucking travesty, May doesn't do shit but he's probably the de facto worst case scenario
Why would it impact on holidays taken outside of Europe? We already have long established travel guidelines with countries like the USA for example.
I'm assuming it's the sheer level of uncertainty, which also affects things like how we manage our airspace.
Yeah that makes sense. Although you don't fly over any of the rest of Europe to get to the USA but I can see how airspace would be an issue for other routes.
With how repugnant, uncaring and out of touch with reality our British ruling class is, I can see why France had a revolution...
They're denying it with their favourite stock response.
BBC News: Ministers deny planning no-deal Brexit holiday warnings
BBC News: Ministers deny planning no-deal Brexit holiday warnings
Downing Street has dismissed claims that people will be warned not to book holidays beyond March 2019 as part of no-deal Brexit contingency plans.
It comes after the Sunday Times said senior officials had examined the idea.
But a No 10 spokesperson rejected the report as "categorically untrue."
And travel agents' body Abta told the BBC: "The European Commission has said that even in a no-deal scenario, flights will still operate between the UK and EU, and a visa is not required."
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What a time to be alive, Brits.
Is this why I saw so many British tourists in Krakow a month ago? I heard British accents more than any other accent there.
P.S. In the event of a No Deal Brexit, is there a possibility for the UK to emulate a USA style travel relationship with the EU? I.E. 90 continuous days of visa-free travel within the Schengen Zone?
Obviously that doesn't solve work visas. But I'm just talking about sheer movement.
Is this why I saw so many British tourists in Krakow a month ago? I heard British accents more than any other accent there.
P.S. In the event of a No Deal Brexit, is there a possibility for the UK to emulate a USA style travel relationship with the EU? I.E. 90 continuous days of visa-free travel within the Schengen Zone?
Obviously that doesn't solve work visas. But I'm just talking about sheer movement.
Another factor is that because the EU - and neighbouring regions you would reach through it, like the wider Mediterranean - is such an important market to airline operators, knocks to business there could have effects on all their operations.
Maybe they would need one of those fancy blue passports after.
That is indeed the plan, UK residents will pay 7€ for 90 days access to the EU, which is valid for 3 years. Unless there is a no deal Brexit in which case we may need to apply for a visa.
Stories like this do May a favour since her response is always "vote for my deal then" but I still don't see anything that can get her deal through. Her playing chicken with parliament is potentially one of the most damaging acts to this country since Dodgy Dave called the referendum.
Come on over fam, we welcome you to the mainland any time
I think it won't be that much of a problem if you have a job ready to go to here, and how good your German holds up is also a factor I assume. I'd say it would be an easier ordeal before this whole shitshow is finalized though...
Our air services agreement (ASA) with the USA is through the EU. If we crash out and don't agree an independent ASA with them then we don't have the legal right to land in the US. There's also matters such as recognition of pilot licenses and safety certificates which could be in a very nebulous legal state post no-deal.
The nightmare scenario of a plane crashing post no-deal, only to discover that neither the pilot or the plane had legally valid licenses/safety certificates, is one that any airline company would like to avoid at all costs.
God this whole thing is so stupid. How two of the world's greatest powers got fucked in the ass so hard by Russian trolls will really be something to behold when the history books are written
I'm really doubting planes will stop travelling to EU on no deal maybe for one day to sort out what information they need to process (though this should be sorted before a no deal brexit happens).
I thought that 7€ pass would be for if there is a deal or not (as the UK gets added to list of countries available for it like the US will be using it)
I thought that 7€ pass would be for if there is a deal or not (as the UK gets added to list of countries available for it like the US will be using it)
Reducing Brexit down to Russian trolls is some pretty insane deflection. They certainly helped, sure but there are bigger causes of the vote going the way it did.
eh i wouldnt be sure if there will be visafree traveling to japan.
no chance. uk will be considered a safe third country
I get that european travels might be effected but why international?
It is and everyone knows it and yet we're hurtling towards it anyway because the government refuses to stop Brexit.
Sorry you're right, the 7€ will in a deal or no deal case, I missed that detail. The possible delays will be at passport control and to a lesser extent customs. For UK citizens arriving at EU airports (and vice versa), you'll need to present a passport, a reason for your stay and proof (ie hotel booking, return ticket), proof of funds, and from 2021 a valid ETIS (will probably be on a database tied to passport number though, also there will probably be a UK equivalent for EU citizens). In theory that should be quick but to go from a quick scan of a passport to that will mean queues at unprepared airports. For UK citizens arriving back home, customs will actually have to do some work and will no longer be absent for EU arrivals due to VAT and customs charges now being payable.
Some of this could be skipped in an emergency but laws are laws, they can only do so much.
Honestly airports aren't the biggest problem, freight ports such as Dover and the channel tunnel will be a colossal headache in a no deal scenario.
EDIT: I did also forget to mention that there may be complications with pilot licenses etc but I don't know the details of the impact that could have to be honest, much like the government doesn't I suppose.
The wife and I were planning to visit the UK in early April to celebrate our fifteenth wedding anniversary. We changed those plans a month or two back so we didn't have to worry about how well or badly Brexit was going. I wouldn't plan to travel to or from the UK in April unless you have to.
Also most regulatory functions are done by EASA, and Air traffic control by Eurocontrol etc.. etc..
I think Uzzy did a really good job at explaining it.
To further the point, this is what the EU Brexit preparedness notice states:
Basically if there is no deal, UK can turn into a no-fly zone
sources:
European commission brexit preparedness notices: https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness/preparedness-notices_en#move
direct link to pdf: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/file_import/air_transport_en.pdf
You all have to understand: The United Kingdom is a great country with the economic might of the entire Commonwealth behind it. Once it will be able to come out of the EU's shell it will soon florish, thanks to all that amazing trade deals the new PM will setup in no-time, since everbody will be in awe once they visit them. Especially their fellow ally, the US, is probably desperate to make a fair trade deal with them, since they struggle so much with China.
Yeah, things are looking great, indeed!
But seriously. Those Torry idiots probably like the smell of their own farts. They confuse their slogan "football's coming home!" with an actuall plan.
Yeah, things are looking great, indeed!
But seriously. Those Torry idiots probably like the smell of their own farts. They confuse their slogan "football's coming home!" with an actuall plan.