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No Mans Sky introduces logic and electricity systems (a fully functioning game of Rocket League can be played out within the game)
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To be fair in one of the recent smaller updates there wer log entries in side missions that alluded to large worms and beasts, so I feel like they are definitely planning to do something eventually
That's super exciting. I really really hope they do.
I think I'm going to head over to the OT and discuss a few things I need some "guidance" on before I dive back into this.
My biggest disappointments are still the lack of actual solar system simulation (orbits, rotations, stars actually being there) and one-biome planets.
I don't expect either to happen until a theoretical NMS2, as orbits would probably mean fundamental changes to the game, but if they can re-roll all the planets to get more variety I don't see why they can't do multi-biome planets in the current NMS.
Both things aren't in NMS because it was originally designed for players to hop from planet to planet. But most features added since launch have encouraged staying on planets long-term, which means you'd actually see celestial movements over time, and you'd have time to explore more regions of a single planet.
Orbits and rotations would certainly have to occur at "normal" real-life speeds, as the length of a day on a planet would have to be determined by the actual rotation. You'd only start to notice those orbits over very long periods of time, like months in real life. Elite Dangerous does this and people are perfectly fine with it.
Elite also solved this way back in the 90's with Elite II by just giving you a map of each solar system (even procedural ones). You have both a simple 2D map and a 3D orrery view. You just put a waypoint on the planet you want to go to without having to actually look at the planet. This is one UI feature I really want to see added to NMS because in that game, plotting a course to a planet is already a pain if it's behind another planet. In every other space game I've seen you can just plot a waypoint and supercruise handles the rest for the most part.
My other disappointment is actually that the planets in NMS are still "small". You can never see a crater this big in NMS for instance. Exiting and entering the atmosphere feels really short, but they probably did that for gameplay reasons. Star Citizen is doing the same thing, as realistically-sized planets would have atmospheres so big that actually landing on one from space would take like 20 minutes. Sometimes it does take that long in Elite Dangerous (you can still only land on airless worlds in ED but some of them are bigger than Earth and it can take a long time to safely approach and land).
Video games are just not good at dealing with real-life-scale geography like this.
I don't expect either to happen until a theoretical NMS2, as orbits would probably mean fundamental changes to the game, but if they can re-roll all the planets to get more variety I don't see why they can't do multi-biome planets in the current NMS.
Both things aren't in NMS because it was originally designed for players to hop from planet to planet. But most features added since launch have encouraged staying on planets long-term, which means you'd actually see celestial movements over time, and you'd have time to explore more regions of a single planet.
Orbits and rotations would certainly have to occur at "normal" real-life speeds, as the length of a day on a planet would have to be determined by the actual rotation. You'd only start to notice those orbits over very long periods of time, like months in real life. Elite Dangerous does this and people are perfectly fine with it.
Elite also solved this way back in the 90's with Elite II by just giving you a map of each solar system (even procedural ones). You have both a simple 2D map and a 3D orrery view. You just put a waypoint on the planet you want to go to without having to actually look at the planet. This is one UI feature I really want to see added to NMS because in that game, plotting a course to a planet is already a pain if it's behind another planet. In every other space game I've seen you can just plot a waypoint and supercruise handles the rest for the most part.
Surely...
No, it can't be
My other disappointment is actually that the planets in NMS are still "small". You can never see a crater this big in NMS for instance. Exiting and entering the atmosphere feels really short, but they probably did that for gameplay reasons. Star Citizen is doing the same thing, as realistically-sized planets would have atmospheres so big that actually landing on one from space would take like 20 minutes. Sometimes it does take that long in Elite Dangerous (you can still only land on airless worlds in ED but some of them are bigger than Earth and it can take a long time to safely approach and land).
Video games are just not good at dealing with real-life-scale geography like this.
I'm a little hyped for this but I've been burned by VR ports before (like every single one i've played)
I wish they'd release the update early, I've been wanting to start the game really bad but I want to jump in when the update is live so I get the improvements from the beginning.
Edit: Also any idea when this goes live?
Edit: Also any idea when this goes live?
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Same here. I installed the game yesterday to be prepared lol
Can't wait to jump in
Thanks, just played a couple of hours without the game crashing thanks to you.
I just jumped back into this game after a long ass time of not playing it. And even though my GTX 950 is potato for this game, it runs well enough that I'm finally starting to enjoy the game. Something just clicked and holy shit does this game have a lot of content and a lot to do. Excited for the new update/expansion.
Has Sean ever talked about EVA/space walks? I keep hoping that makes it in and we could explore derelict ships that way or help random NPCs. Imagine doing an EVA onto a capital ship that's sparking with damage, getting on board and finding panels with lore of what happened to the crew and stumbling onto those horror creatures.
Most likely in the morning/early afternoon EST. NEXT dropped at about 12-1pm EST on PC and PS4 an hour or two later iirc.
Don't have the source on hand, but unfortunately in one of his recent interviews he called out both space walks and Gas Giants as things explicitly not on their current planned feature set. His reasoning was that he thought people would get frustrated if they accidentally engaged space walk mode and floated off to their death. Seems kind of a bad reason to me personally, but I think the secret real reason is they don't want to have to think about 6dof movement in zero G scenarios.
That being said I'd loooove to be able to land on abandoned freighters and frigates, which wouldn't even require reworking any controls.
Jumped back in over the weekend to rap up the base missions and about to unlock the expcraft terminal. Once the new update hits I'll jet off and find my new home planet to start my big base build with the new features. I'm playing on Xbox one x but will pick up the PS4 version if the VR is good.
I've long considered NMS one of my dream games come to life, VR is taking it to heights I never could've imagined . Definitely expecting an Interstellar moment the first time I throw on the headset.
You now, might actually have to rewatch the film tomorrow night for maximum hype.
You now, might actually have to rewatch the film tomorrow night for maximum hype.
Did they say anything about new trophies/achievements? I'm going to dive back in regardless, but it would be the cherry on top....
It's a really great sign that despite all the features they keep adding to the game, there are still so many more like this that can be added. I think some features will require a next gen only sequel (running water/lava, multi biome planets, gas giants, planetary rotation with real stars, overhauled animal AI and draw distance, etc) but there are definitely a lot of features that could still happen with the current game, like a space overhaul and combat overhaul.
Well, I don't have anything to lose, so I guess I'll give this another spin.
Haven't touched it since a week after it launched lol
Haven't touched it since a week after it launched lol
That seems like just a lame excuse. Design a warning before you jump out or some sort of airlock/depressurization timer if you're worried about someone doing it by accident.
In the current update both is true. You can join a random lobby (or with a friend) for full multiplayer (you can see the player models, their ships/freighters, etc.). However, you can also come across a player in the wild in the form of a "glitch" (visible as an orb and only the position with voice chat capability).
We assume the new update will get rid of the orbs and allow full models etc. to be encountered in the wild.
Yeah I rolled my eyes real hard when I read it. That's why I just inserted my own subtext that it's hard to design a new zero g movement system, and they're focused on improving existing parts of the game for now. Btw the article was here.
:}I've long considered NMS one of my dream games come to life, VR is taking it to heights I never could've imagined . Definitely expecting an Interstellar moment the first time I throw on the headset.
You now, might actually have to rewatch the film tomorrow night for maximum hype.
That was basically me when they showed the trailer, even without the VR ingredient, it's such an underrated game at this point.
This looks really good.
Haven't played since around launch, though I did put a good amount of hours into it. Need to decide if I should continue on PS4 or start over on PC. Have PSVR but not sure how much I'd use it. Prefer playing games on PC, but it would be nice to continue my original journey.
Haven't played since around launch, though I did put a good amount of hours into it. Need to decide if I should continue on PS4 or start over on PC. Have PSVR but not sure how much I'd use it. Prefer playing games on PC, but it would be nice to continue my original journey.
If you haven't played since launch, your old save will be completely different and possibly broken. I think you're better off starting over, as it's such a different game now even before the Beyond update.
I remember very briefly trying NMS Next and was able to load my save. Probably better to start over though. I guess I'll see how lost I feel and how good VR is, and make a decision from there.
VR seems worthy of a new save. Need that intro buildup to that first flight.
Yep, this is why I'm starting over. I want to experience everything for the first time again.
The space act as zero g in the game but isn't void. Being out of your ship can be controlled exactly as ship (basically, when you turn, you turn) but with limited speed.
Are we sure VR won't be a new category on the menu like Survival and Creative with a separate save? I was thinking about that last night. If now, then I will also start a new game.
It's isn't. Old saves are compatible and VR people share the world with everyone else.
I believe Sean Murray said that VR was a selectable view mode, just like toggling between third and first person. I don't remember which article I read that in; I'm looking for it now.
They've been saying it's not a separate mode or port but maybe it does have a separate section for control/config reasons.
I hopped in right away on the last major update and the bugs killed it for me. How long does it typically take for things to settle down post patch?
Oh I see. I was not was not aware is just a toggle instead of a new game mode. New Save it is then!
Sounds fine on paper, but you need a propulsion system, and reworked inertia, etc for it to not feel terrible, and you'd also need to rig up new animations for all the player models etc in 3rd person mode.
It's not a tiny amount of work, and they'd also have to you know program the actual gameplay around it to make it have a point. I could see it being the focus of an entire update if they want to do it properly. (which they should)
Does anyone know how the multiplayer side works without PS+? Like will you not see anyone wandering around even or will you just not be able to interact in the social hub?
Currently, you cannot join lobbies without PS+ but you can see other players as orbs. Interaction is limited to voice chat and "monument" building (basically a permanent memento of two players meeting).
I hope they add resolution and performance options in game to the ps4 pro version. If i want to play it somewhat close to a decent frame rate i have to manually put my ps4 pro's output resolution to 1080p
Totally understand, I was just making an off handed remark. TBH I totally forgot this was coming out for PSVR (I play on PC and was thinking of those VR components). Guess we'll find out Wed. I was just really throwing out the sentiment that wouldn't be crazy/ironic if NMS went from what was promised / delivered originally (backlash, etc) to be a VR Gem that broke down some barriers for people?
