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Nobody Believed Neil deGrasse Tyson's First Accuser. Now There Are Three More. | A new woman speaks out about inappropriate behaviour for the article
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Yeah, it's what angers me, as well.
It's bad enough that a dude that I really admired is being a douche, but he had an opportunity to really be a positive force in someone's life, and decided to be a predatory asshole. And she gets to suffer in silence, watching chucklefucks like me fawn over his ass.
Fuck Neil deGrass Tyson. I'm running out of heroes, here.
Isnt he married?
That at least paints him as somewhat of a casual sleaze ball
"Rape one" in parenthesis, as if a fucking RAPE is just a side note.
Ok dude.
It was an edit cause I forgot there was also that allegation.
Chill dude.
Time to call in Phil Plait and re-shoot/record. Won't happen of course due to the cost, but I can dream.
I did like someone else's suggestion in one of these threads that Cosmos should feature different science communicators each season.
I know he's mostly just a Mechanical Engineer, but if people are worried about Season 2 of Cosmos, bring in Bill Nye.
On topic, if all of this is true (which is seeming exceedingly likely) it is pretty damn horrifying for those impacted. It is probably also frustrating for the science community to lose (rightfully) a popular spokesperson and sad for those who looked up to them. Those latter two don't really compare to the former, though.
On topic, if all of this is true (which is seeming exceedingly likely) it is pretty damn horrifying for those impacted. It is probably also frustrating for the science community to lose (rightfully) a popular spokesperson and sad for those who looked up to them. Those latter two don't really compare to the former, though.
I know it's far down the list of things he's accused of, but what a shitty thing to say to someone. Says a lot about his scumbag opinion of women.
Jesus Christ. I hope this story blows up because this man is a creep.
Disgusting.
I would be all over that. Dude has a nice voice and seems very genuine to me.
It obviously is for plenty of people that immediately yell retire, fuck him forever, or whatever.
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Do we want the guy who made a career out of shows filled with racist, homophobic, transphobic and misogynistic humor to be the face of cosmos?
Or do people forgive him for that because he makes fun of conservatives and is pro weed?
this post shows complete ignorance of how victims of sexual abuse feel. myself, some of my female friends, and women in my family have faced abuse from random nobodies, and we still felt pressured not to say anything.
The creepiest part is how he dries his hands on his jeans right beforehand in anticipation for his move. There was nothing spontaneous about that.
Sheesh.
And that took place after elevatorgate, so it's not like "we skeptical/scientific communicator folks need to be more thoughtful about how we approach and deal with women" can be explained away with "but they're awkward nerds who don't know how womenbrains work, don't hate" not that it should have ever been a valid excuse in the first place.
He was behind the new version with Tyson which is what I was referring to.
I know, but he wasn't the face of the show, it was Tyson who at the time had a clean image, and i think to a degree McFarlane knows a show like Cosmos needs a clean host and face that is not known as "the guy who did family guy", and in general not having an actual bonafide scientist as the host would hurt the show, but i also think that having specifically McFarlane host it would hurt the show.
Sorry that you had to be subjected to that 😔. This also doesn't shock or surprise me.
Yup.
The problem with people like Neil is that they're smart enough not to entrap themselves. The only way that we found out about this was the fact that someone had the gall to talk about their experiences, something that is hard to do in its own. Neil isn't some 'harmless nerd' or whatever he portrays himself as, and that should have been played away ever since he took on so much fame. That made it so he could get away with these things without people batting an eye. He managed to wash his image with the awkward nerd stereotype, which, for some reason, people openly embrace it, allowing for certain behaviors to be passed on because they feel they just can't help it.
Even with that StarTalk video, he showed how he feels about women's bodies based on body language and action in its own, and it seems like the people on StarTalk were just in on it, as if they knew about his behavior before, and they got nervous when the audience started to question it.
Either way, I think it's best to not put these types on a pedestal. Why? Because it allows for them to get away with things they would likely not get away with if they were considered a regular person. I get that he's black (I'm black and I idolized him for a brief moment when Cosmos II came out Netflix), but we really need to analyze why we give people so much stake.
This all reminds me of Master of None's Chef Jeff scene he got accused of sexual harassment. I think Neil is going to try and sweep this under the rug.
I think it's worthwhile just looking at the StarTalk video and the body language in it bit by bit. He grabs her by her arm/hand and pulls her up, pulls up her shirt, starts touching her, pulls her shirt down for her and then he grabs her arm and takes her back to her seat, he only stops doing it when she turns around and looks at him.
Seriously fucked up. The people defending this man are delusional fools.
Hold him accountable for everything he does.
Even with that StarTalk video, he showed how he feels about women's bodies based on body language and action in its own, and it seems like the people on StarTalk were just in on it, as if they knew about his behavior before, and they got nervous when the audience started to question it.
Either way, I think it's best to not put these types on a pedestal. Why? Because it allows for them to get away with things they would likely not get away with if they were considered a regular person. I get that he's black (I'm black and I idolized him for a brief moment when Cosmos II came out Netflix), but we really need to analyze why we give people so much stake.
This all reminds me of Master of None's Chef Jeff scene he got accused of sexual harassment. I think Neil is going to try and sweep this under the rug.
I think it's worthwhile just looking at the StarTalk video and the body language in it bit by bit. He grabs her by her arm/hand and pulls her up, pulls up her shirt, starts touching her, pulls her shirt down for her and then he grabs her arm and takes her back to her seat, he only stops doing it when she turns around and looks at him.
Seriously fucked up. The people defending this man are delusional fools.
Hold him accountable for everything he does.
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My mother got me tickets for his speaking tour in January. Luckily she was able to get a full refund this morning. Fuck this dude.
That's too bad. The tattoo story and the drunken sexual jokes don't sound me like the kind of "material" that should sink his career though. It makes him look like an asshole sure, but how far should the consequences go for something of that level? Certainly his public persona is done for, as somebody who does this is not fit to be a role model.
If the assault allegations that ended in the career derailment are true though, this is a wrap for him.
It's a shame though, he presented himself as the kind of voice that really could inspire young scientists and in the end he is just another cautionary tale.
If the assault allegations that ended in the career derailment are true though, this is a wrap for him.
It's a shame though, he presented himself as the kind of voice that really could inspire young scientists and in the end he is just another cautionary tale.
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You guys should look at the other thread of people defending this guy. I remember when the first sexual misconduct allegations surfaced a while ago, but we have several women coming forward.
So what you're saying is because his behavior isn't that egregious he should be allowed to continue his work of engagement/communication of science to the public, but because of his egregious behavior he shouldn't take on any work that involves him engaging with or attempting to educate the public?!?
What the hell is this? Why I have I never heard about this? That is gross as hell. How come they shrugged that off?!
Well I just saw the video and the way he grabbed and pushed and lifted the shirt in front of an audience was far more aggravating than what I had in my mind. If he has the gal to do that on stage, I can only wonder how bad it can get in more private settings.
Regarding what you said to what I said, I was just saying he could still develop research or perform duties not directly related to public exposure.
Video is really bad though, we might see a lot more women coming forward
Thank you for posting this. It's pretty damning, I must say. Completely inappropriate and unacceptable behavior.
His 'what really happened' explanation is gross. This is a guy drunk on power and there is no floor.
HIs "ancient native american handshake" story was so weird, it made me wonder if he actually did something else, then did research to find something similar he could play it off as, lol.
Of course, you barely have to scroll down in the comments for someone to call him "such a pimp" for the way he's man handling her.
That was so awkward. I'm trying to think of a relationship (much less a professional one) between a man and woman where this kind of behavior wouldn't be extremely awkward at best.The problem with people like Neil is that they're smart enough not to entrap themselves. The only way that we found out about this was the fact that someone had the gall to talk about their experiences, something that is hard to do in its own. Neil isn't some 'harmless nerd' or whatever he portrays himself as, and that should have been played away ever since he took on so much fame. That made it so he could get away with these things without people batting an eye. He managed to wash his image with the awkward nerd stereotype, which, for some reason, people openly embrace it, allowing for certain behaviors to be passed on because they feel they just can't help it.
Even with that StarTalk video, he showed how he feels about women's bodies based on body language and action in its own, and it seems like the people on StarTalk were just in on it, as if they knew about his behavior before, and they got nervous when the audience started to question it.
Either way, I think it's best to not put these types on a pedestal. Why? Because it allows for them to get away with things they would likely not get away with if they were considered a regular person. I get that he's black (I'm black and I idolized him for a brief moment when Cosmos II came out Netflix), but we really need to analyze why we give people so much stake.
This all reminds me of Master of None's Chef Jeff scene he got accused of sexual harassment. I think Neil is going to try and sweep this under the rug.
I think it's worthwhile just looking at the StarTalk video and the body language in it bit by bit. He grabs her by her arm/hand and pulls her up, pulls up her shirt, starts touching her, pulls her shirt down for her and then he grabs her arm and takes her back t o her seat, he only stops doing it when she turns around and looks at him.
Seriously fucked up. The people defending this man are delusional fools.
Hold him accountable for everything he does.
Of course, you barely have to scroll down in the comments for someone to call him "such a pimp" for the way he's man handling her.
What the fuuuuuuuuuck at that video. Holy shit that is uncomfortable and infuriating to watch. What is he there, like 50 something? I can't believe I ever looked up to him. What a lack of professionalism, dignity, respect. He dragged her around like a puppet instead of asking her to show her tattoo.
