Yeah, it's what angers me, as well.Amet's story is so tragic:
Just imagine if this asshole had been a decent person and helped her rather than ruin her life. That power was fully in his hands.
- Struggled in grad school
- Was discriminated against
- Was raped by one of the few people she felt close to
- Left and got lost in new age shit
- The man who raped her became rich and famous
- People don't believe her
The worst story remains the inappropriate workplace wine and cheese. (And the rape one)
The new one is just him hitting on a taken woman he didn't know at a party? And get rejected? That's it?
"Rape one" in parenthesis, as if a fucking RAPE is just a side note.The worst story remains the inappropriate workplace wine and cheese. (And the rape one)
The new one is just him hitting on a taken woman he didn't know at a party? And get rejected? That's it?
It was an edit cause I forgot there was also that allegation."Rape one" in parenthesis, as if a fucking RAPE is just a side note.
Ok dude.
Really bad edit "dude."It was an edit cause I forgot there was also that allegation.
Chill dude.
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
Thanks for the input "dude"!
Time to call in Phil Plait and re-shoot/record. Won't happen of course due to the cost, but I can dream.
I know it's far down the list of things he's accused of, but what a shitty thing to say to someone. Says a lot about his scumbag opinion of women.On the car drive home the next day, Watson said, he told her she was "too distracting" to ever make it as a producer.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
You can believe women and still analyze the situation. It's not an either/or scenario.
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
this post shows complete ignorance of how victims of sexual abuse feel. myself, some of my female friends, and women in my family have faced abuse from random nobodies, and we still felt pressured not to say anything.I don't disagree. To clarify, a lot of the reason I don't believe the first woman is that her story is much more extreme than the others. It doesn't match up at all, in terms of what he did and her reasons to keep quiet. He wasn't more credible at the time than she was.
But the other three accusers, as I noted above, are far more damning. :/
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
Oh, I bet I know who it iiiiiisssssssSpeaking of which, took a look at the old site.. You'll never guess who has been staunchly defending this guy.
Some assholes never learn.
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
Do we want the guy who made a career out of shows filled with racist, homophobic, transphobic and misogynistic humor to be the face of cosmos?
Or do people forgive him for that because he makes fun of conservatives and is pro weed?
He was behind the new version with Tyson which is what I was referring to.
Sorry that you had to be subjected to that 😔. This also doesn't shock or surprise me.Having experienced sexual harassment from a variety of men, this doesn't shock or surprise me
Yup.
That's too bad. The tattoo story and the drunken sexual jokes don't sound me like the kind of "material" that should sink his career though. It makes him look like an asshole sure, but how far should the consequences go for something of that level? Certainly his public persona is done for, as somebody who does this is not fit to be a role model.
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
So what you're saying is because his behavior isn't that egregious he should be allowed to continue his work of engagement/communication of science to the public, but because of his egregious behavior he shouldn't take on any work that involves him engaging with or attempting to educate the public?!?
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
I refrained from posting this in the first thread because that one grew so large I couldn't be sure the video hadn't been brought up and discussed already, but I want to include it here so people know what "overenthusiastic nerd who misreads cues and disrespects personal boundaries" looks like.
Because we can do more than believe women that Neil deGrasse Tyson feels entitled to their bodies. We can believe our own eyes as we see him act like he is entitled to a woman's body in a Star Talk panel from six years ago.
Watch from the 21:44 mark if the timestamp doesn't work:
I've rarely seen socially awkward nerds act with such casual confidence.
That was so awkward. I'm trying to think of a relationship (much less a professional one) between a man and woman where this kind of behavior wouldn't be extremely awkward at best.The problem with people like Neil is that they're smart enough not to entrap themselves. The only way that we found out about this was the fact that someone had the gall to talk about their experiences, something that is hard to do in its own. Neil isn't some 'harmless nerd' or whatever he portrays himself as, and that should have been played away ever since he took on so much fame. That made it so he could get away with these things without people batting an eye. He managed to wash his image with the awkward nerd stereotype, which, for some reason, people openly embrace it, allowing for certain behaviors to be passed on because they feel they just can't help it.
Even with that StarTalk video, he showed how he feels about women's bodies based on body language and action in its own, and it seems like the people on StarTalk were just in on it, as if they knew about his behavior before, and they got nervous when the audience started to question it.
Either way, I think it's best to not put these types on a pedestal. Why? Because it allows for them to get away with things they would likely not get away with if they were considered a regular person. I get that he's black (I'm black and I idolized him for a brief moment when Cosmos II came out Netflix), but we really need to analyze why we give people so much stake.
This all reminds me of Master of None's Chef Jeff scene he got accused of sexual harassment. I think Neil is going to try and sweep this under the rug.
I think it's worthwhile just looking at the StarTalk video and the body language in it bit by bit. He grabs her by her arm/hand and pulls her up, pulls up her shirt, starts touching her, pulls her shirt down for her and then he grabs her arm and takes her back t o her seat, he only stops doing it when she turns around and looks at him.
Seriously fucked up. The people defending this man are delusional fools.
Hold him accountable for everything he does.
Man I really looked up to him too, now all I see is an asshole