Non-Tipping Americans: What is your reason?

[DongBeetle]

I know I specified Americans but this topic can be applied to anyone from any country with a large tipping culture. This is also primarily targeted at restaurant workers. I'm aware of large amounts of people who will just never tip regardless of the level of service provided to them. I'm just curious what your reason is and if there are any situations in which you would reconsider?

I want to foster healthy debate and discussion so no rude or snarky comments please!

 

[Redhead On Moped]

I tip to those that deserve it, period. The amount I tip is based on service, and/or consistency. I never pre-tip before I receive goods or services as some places have started doing. Minimum I tip is whatever rounds up to the next dollar in cents, Maximum is around 40 percent.

Like everything in my life, it can vary wildly, depending on the situation. The important thing is to always treat people right, period. That doesn't always mean that I have to leave a big tip, or any tip. I don't always tip, tips should be a bonus.

 

[AnansiThePersona]

1) This will not end well
2) I don't tip if I'm ordering a takeout meal and there is an option to tip on the receipt. No one did anything so whats the point of giving them money?

 

[Brakke]

This whole resetera thing was such a beautiful opportunity to leave some of our ole bullshit behind but you just had to go and bring this up, huh.

 

[Gray Matter]

I really hate tipping. It's an antiquated tradition and should be abolished.

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I only tip at dine in restaurants.

 

[DongBeetle]

This whole resetera thing was such a beautiful opportunity to leave some of our ole bullshit behind but you just had to go and bring this up, huh.

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What do you mean

 

[Abu]

10% if average service
15% if good
20% if excellent

That's always my tipping process if dining in at a restaurant. Give around 10 to 15% for delivery.

 

[5taquitos]

Why not:

• Restaurants: 15% for good service, less or none for bad service. More if good service and I'm drunk.
• Take-out: Flat $1 for most $2 for my usual spots. Big big orders get more.
• Delivery: $3-5 for on time or early, less for late.
• Bar: $1 per drink if I'm paying cash each time, or per order if I'm grabbing one for my wife or buddy too. If I'm running a tab, 15-20% for good service.

 

[Fart Master]

10% if average service
15% if good
20% if excellent

That's always my tipping process if dining in at a restaurant. Give around 10 to 15% for delivery.

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10 percent dawg really

 

[Chrome]

Afaik, most restraunts are able to pay under the minimum wage due to tipping. Given that, I always tip 15%, sometimes more depending on the service.

 

[vexx987]

The most i usually tip is 10%
When i eat out with my wife, we spend around $70 to $80. Yeah, I'm cheap.

 

[Abu]

10 percent dawg really

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Hahaha, 10 to low for ya or over the roof?

It's how we do it in my home country and that kinda stuck with me as I came here to the States

 

[Sowrong]

What about bar tipping culture? $1 to hand me a beer can, or pop the top off the bottle, sheesh. I understand tipping for getting a good mixed drink, but man, the pressure to tip for some stuff is ridiculous.

 

[DongBeetle]

1) This will not end well
2) I don't tip if I'm ordering a takeout meal and there is an option to tip on the receipt. No one did anything so whats the point of giving them money?

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A lot of takeout meals at dine in restaurants are prepared by servers with larger orders potentially taking quite a bit of time from their dine in tables so I usually give a couple bucks

 

[minus_me]

Don't really think about it. Doesn't change my life if it's a custom or not.

I'll go anywhere from 10% to 100%

100% is for life changing service and hasn't happened that much.

 

[Fart Master]

Hahaha, 10 to low for ya or over the roof?

It's how we do it in my home country and that kinda stuck with me as I came here to the States

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if you're a regular at basically any restaurant and you're consistently giving them 10% tips expect hair and spit in your food bruh.

 

[Deleted member 17092]

10% if average service
15% if good
20% if excellent

That's always my tipping process if dining in at a restaurant. Give around 10 to 15% for delivery.

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Wait what, so you'll automatically tip a delivery driver the same percentage as someone literally serving you for an hour plus if they have "average" service? Shouldn't you tip an average delivery driver like less than 5% then?

 

[brokenmachine]

Don't really think about it. Doesn't change my life if it's a custom or not.

I'll go anywhere from 10% to 100%

100% is for life changing service and hasn't happened that much.

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I would love to experience life changing service.

 

[Deleted member 17092]

if you're a regular at basically any restaurant and you're consistently giving them 10% tips expect hair and spit in your food bruh.

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Nah, most likely the server isn't even going to remember you much less even if they did are they going to put their job on the line trying to fuck with your food.

 

[DeusOcha]

I spent my childhood in Japan, never tipped and picked up on the subtle offense people took when my parents tried to do so.

 

[Deleted member 17092]

What about bar tipping culture? $1 to hand me a beer can, or pop the top off the bottle, sheesh. I understand tipping for getting a good mixed drink, but man, the pressure to tip for some stuff is ridiculous.

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Yeah this I've never really understood. I don't feel like I need to give you a 20% tip for handing me an overpriced beer or a 100% tip for pushing a spicket down for an overpriced cup of coffee.

 

[jfkgoblue]

What about bar tipping culture? $1 to hand me a beer can, or pop the top off the bottle, sheesh. I understand tipping for getting a good mixed drink, but man, the pressure to tip for some stuff is ridiculous.

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And that's after spending $4 for a beer.

 

[Deleted member 25600]

We don't need to tip here because we pay our workers a decent wage.

Personally I've done it once when our waiter was incredibly entertaining and we felt he deserved something extra.

 

[Deleted member 2802]

Some weird shit is going to happen with automation?

Do you tip a robot?
Do you tip an AI?
Do you want the tip back if you find out that you were interacting with an AI/robot instead of a human?

 

[Lateralus]

I tip HEAVY at local places.
The bars or restaurants in my neighborhood, I do a minimum $20 no matter the bill. 2 beers, $12.. $20 tip.

I can pretty much walk into any local place and be treated like a king. I walk into the pub on my street, my beers being poured before I sit down.

Tip hard is just how I live. If I go to a bar I tip REAL heavy on the first round and for the rest of the night I dont wait for drinks and the bartender is going out of his way keeping my pint full, area clean, etc..

 

[BLEEN]

I really hate tipping. It's an antiquated tradition and should be abolished.

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I only tip at dine in restaurants.

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This minus the spoiler. If I have change on me, that's the most I'll tip. I'm a cheap bastard.

I tip HEAVY at local places.
The bars or restaurants in my neighborhood, I do a minimum $20 no matter the bill. 2 beers, $12.. $20 tip.

I can pretty much walk into any local place and be treated like a king. I walk into the pub on my street, my beers being poured before I sit down.

Tip hard is just how I live. If I go to a bar I tip REAL heavy on the first round and for the rest of the night I dont wait for drinks and the bartender is going out of his way keeping my pint full, area clean, etc..

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I like it! But that type of service should be for every patron.

 

[DongBeetle]

I spent my childhood in Japan, never tipped and picked up on the subtle offense people took when my parents tried to do so.

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Thread is specified at people living in countries where tipping is the norm

 

[Abu]

if you're a regular at basically any restaurant and you're consistently giving them 10% tips expect hair and spit in your food bruh.

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If I was a regular that would mean I like the service and tip at least 15

Wait what, so you'll automatically tip a delivery driver the same percentage as someone literally serving you for an hour plus if they have "average" service? Shouldn't you tip an average delivery driver like less than 5% then?

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I got a soft spot for delivery drivers. I was in the delivery service when I was young and it always made my day if I was tipped around 10% or more, so yeah that's why.

 

[sersteven]

Some weird shit is going to happen with automation?

Do you tip a robot?
Do you tip an AI?
Do you want the tip back if you find out that you were interacting with an AI/robot instead of a human?

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Does the AI have feelings/rights? Does it depend on that wage? Then sure, I'll tip.
Obviously if its just a mindless robot, it doesn't need or want money, so why would you tip.

 

[Septimus Prime]

I won't tip for valet parking that charges a fee. No double dipping.

 

[Fart Master]

Nah, most likely the server isn't even going to remember you much less even if they did are they going to put their job on the line trying to fuck with your food.

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Well yeah in an Olive Garden sure but go to any locally owed restaurant and I can guarantee you some people will do that.

The most i usually tip is 10%
When i eat out with my wife, we spend around $70 to $80. Yeah, I'm cheap.

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Jesus

 

[subpar spatula]

Crappy system that favors looks, race, age, location, and venue. Enables servers to play favorites with customers IE "you get bumped in queue for drinks at the bar even though others have been waiting". Creates a terrible feedback loop where people blame customers instead of employers for fucking them over. It creates a culture of shame where anyone who doesn't tip is an asshole even if the service was just adequate. There's an angle of manipulation where you can't tap your card until you pass the tip screen.

I would rather a more transparent and fair system across the board, so unless the service staff gives top notch service then you're most likely not going to see a tip from me. Like, come on, who's going to tip $1 per drink at a bar?

 

[DeusOcha]

Thread is specified at people living in countries where tipping is the norm

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I know, I live in the US atm and I carried the habit of nontipping from my past

 

[hydruxo]

I tip at dine-in restaurants and when I get my haircut, but that's it.

 

[ig55]

My position is if you have enough disposable income to be drinking at a bar you should tip for every drank. $1 per beer, $2 per mixed cocktail

 

[minus_me]

I would love to experience life changing service.

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Everyone should.

 

[Deleted member 17092]

Well yeah in an Olive Garden sure but go to any locally owed restaurant and I can guarantee you some people will do that.
Jesus

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Eh, I'd actually say a manager at a local place is more likely to give a shit than at a chain spot.

 

[Castor]

I can't say I don't tip but I have some flat rules about it.
1) Not percentage based. Just because I ordered something more expensive doesn't mean you did more work and I don't feel carrying a little extra food is worth that much.
2) Amount based on how well I feel taken care of. For delivery people if you make me go to the parking lot to pick up my food yeah I'm not tipping you. Yes give me change. Bring it to the lobby you get 2 bucks. Bring it to my door 3 or 4 depending. Not so hard and fast with restaurants but definitely never more then 5 bucks

Yeah I'm probably a little cheap but people make their full hourly wage here if they get tipped or not. I order from local joints so they're never spending more then 50 cents on gas and it takes less then 10 min to get to me and as for dining in I think 5 bucks for having to deal with me for less then two minutes total of your day is pretty fair. You did me a service and I appreciate it and you got something out of it. Seems pretty right to me.

 

[Fart Master]

Eh, I'd actually say a manager at a local place is more likely to give a shit than at a chain spot.

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Whatever don't be cheap

 

[BossAttack]

I tip based off of service and whether I feel like. I've never felt any sort of guilt over not giving away free money.

 

[BossAttack]

I tip based off of service and whether I feel like. I've never felt any sort of guilt over not giving away free money.

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I can't say I don't tip but I have some flat rules about it.
1) Not percentage based. Just because I ordered something more expensive doesn't mean you did more work and I don't feel carrying a little extra food is worth that much.
2) Amount based on how well I feel taken care of. For delivery people if you make me go to the parking lot to pick up my food yeah I'm not tipping you. Yes give me change. Bring it to the lobby you get 2 bucks. Bring it to my door 3 or 4 depending. Not so hard and fast with restaurants but definitely never more then 5 bucks

Yeah I'm probably a little cheap but people make their full hourly wage here if they get tipped or not. I order from local joints so they're never spending more then 50 cents on gas and it takes less then 10 min to get to me and as for dining in I think 5 bucks for having to deal with me for less then two minutes total of your day is pretty fair. You did me a service and I appreciate it and you got something out of it. Seems pretty right to me.

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Oh man, I agree with so much of this, especially the not percentage based part. I kinda have an internal cut off of how much I'm willing to tip. I agree that just because I'm ordering a more expensive meal doesn't mean I should be obligated to fork out more money, you're doing the same work.

 

[Deleted member 17092]

Whatever don't be cheap

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Agreed, not defending a 10% tip, just saying it's pretty unlikely anyone is going to fuck with you over it.

 

[Kinopio]

I really hate tipping. It's an antiquated tradition and should be abolished.

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I only tip at dine in restaurants.

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This goes for me as well. I can't stand tipping culture.

 

[DongBeetle]

Oh man, I agree with so much of this, especially the not percentage based part. I kinda have an internal cut off of how much I'm willing to tip. I agree that just because I'm ordering a more expensive meal doesn't mean I should be obligated to fork out more money, you're doing the same work.

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If you come in with a larger amount of people and the work required by the server is increased, would you tip more?

 

[Vish]

Because it's pressure, peer pressure, all pressure. And I'm not tipping uber drivers unless they do something to really help me out.

Like at my job at lowes, customers are55nt expected to tip so they don't, but I'm regularly going above and beyond, doing shit like visiting an elderly persons home to help them clean stuff that fell from their attic. No tip because it isn't expected. In resturants it's forced, but across all industries it's arbitrary.

 

[Hat22]

I never tip. All they do is take my order and bring me food.

People at fast food restaurants do that same job and more and never get tipped.

 

[BennyWhatever]

Restaurants:
Bad service = 10%
Regular service = 15%
Good service = 20%
Exceptional service = 30%

Haircuts:
Bad haircut = $2
Regular haircut = $3
Good haircut or regular haircut near Christmas = $4-5
I get a great coupon = $4-5
(My normal haircut is $13)

I don't go to bars or buy alcohol so I can't really comment on that.

I do not tip for takeout. The COGS should cover that.

Tour guide - discretionary, usually ~ 20%. I've gone on a few tours or something like whitewater rafting or canoeing and the guide was phenomenal and deserved a great tip, so I gave one.

I hate tipping valets because I hate the concept of valet and places that force it are the worst.

 

[The Giant]

I know I specified Americans but this topic can be applied to anyone from any country with a large tipping culture. This is also primarily targeted at restaurant workers. I'm aware of large amounts of people who will just never tip regardless of the level of service provided to them. I'm just curious what your reason is and if there are any situations in which you would reconsider?

I want to foster healthy debate and discussion so no rude or snarky comments please!

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Tipping is a shitty American thing. No other country has tipping. If they do it's minor and mainly aimed at American tourists.

 

[Arc]

I'm glad we're still going to have the same tipping threads over and over here. Makes me feel right at home.

 

[Not Asleep]

My dad is a former waiter who always tips generously (20% at least unless things go really wrong, then he gives closer to 10%). My mom has told me that if I can afford an extra dollar or two that I shouldn't be stingy and if I really cared about money, I should buy fewer espresso drinks. So between those two influences, I rarely tip below 15% for dine-in. I generally leave $1-2 for takeout and 10% for delivery (if it's a service that charges me delivery fees; otherwise, I give 15%).

I do think tipping is fucked up in that restaurants use it as a reason to pay below minimum wage and it makes servers (particularly women and people of color) pretty vulnerable to assholes and bias. So I wish we could just pay servers a decent wage and do away with tipping. But until that point, I don't intend on changing tipping behavior.