Because I'm living on 150$ a month. Sometimes the guy who comes in and orders an 11$ donburi bowl can't scrape up anything more than the price on the bill. There should be no shame in that - there's certainly no insult.
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Non-Tipping Americans: What is your reason?
- Thread starter DongBeetle
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This. I dislike the whole concept.
But since it's the system we have and people rely on tips, I always tip. I'm not paying them extra only for what I unilaterally decide is good service. I'm just paying them, period. Someone has to get my order and bring the food over and they're doing that job. If we didn't have this system this amount would be figured into the menu items and the waiters would be paid a fair wage by their employer.
15% is not just now a base. It was the base when I was a kid in the 90s. It's not a new percentage.
And yea, to me it scales. You don't just casually walk into a place where two meals cost $200. You factor that going forward. Not to mention that the sort of place that caters to that price point and above is also, usually, far picker about wait staff.
They are doing their job and get paid for it. I don't tip my internet service provider, postman or supermarket cashier either.
I do tip in sit in restaurants if the service was pleasant and sometimes for deliveries, but never even close to "10%" or whatever artificial thing is considered. I round up so it's 1-2€. That said, it's obviously not in the US and our workers get paid somewhat fairly.
I do tip in sit in restaurants if the service was pleasant and sometimes for deliveries, but never even close to "10%" or whatever artificial thing is considered. I round up so it's 1-2€. That said, it's obviously not in the US and our workers get paid somewhat fairly.
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I'll never understand the reasoning behind tipping. I live in a country where tipping is ONLY acceptable if you receive an amazing service, like fucking award winning shit I am talking about. I also lived in the UK for 2 years people don't tip there either.
However, I do understand the fact that most of the service workers in the USA are underpaid but that's a problem with the system itself and by tipping, you are basically enabling that system the continue further. I am a masters graduate from the UK and I make around 480 dollars in my country per month, just above the 350 minimum wage. Millions of people read my reviews and articles per month and they ain't tipping me, dog.
However, I do understand the fact that most of the service workers in the USA are underpaid but that's a problem with the system itself and by tipping, you are basically enabling that system the continue further. I am a masters graduate from the UK and I make around 480 dollars in my country per month, just above the 350 minimum wage. Millions of people read my reviews and articles per month and they ain't tipping me, dog.
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I'm not saying your wrong - just asking - what exactly makes it worse for women? I can understand people of colour, especially with deep rooted racism in America.
But in my experience in the UK, women tend to benefit in places where tips are commonplace. People are much more likely to tip just because it is a woman.
Why does cost of bill = extra tip anyways?
Taking me a steak entrée is the same workload as taking me a Hamburger.
I give a dollar for every 10 rounded up.
If the bill is 15. I give 2. If it's 10. I give 1. If it's 12. I give one. I don't give a shit if you dislike it.
Taking me a steak entrée is the same workload as taking me a Hamburger.
I give a dollar for every 10 rounded up.
If the bill is 15. I give 2. If it's 10. I give 1. If it's 12. I give one. I don't give a shit if you dislike it.
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Because they are taxed on if you left a 10% anyways fuck the system yes but still
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Sure not individually but at least where I live if you don't claim 10% of your sales in tips you get flagged which can have some annoying consequences.
The problem I have with tipping culture is that not every job gets "tipped".
I wouldn't ever get a tip in my current role, but I still tip waiters and taxi drivers and food delivery drivers.
However, tipping culture in the US only exists because of a lack of a proper living wage. Tipping should only be for exceptionally good service, not a mandatory requirement because businesses don't want to pay people properly.
I wouldn't ever get a tip in my current role, but I still tip waiters and taxi drivers and food delivery drivers.
However, tipping culture in the US only exists because of a lack of a proper living wage. Tipping should only be for exceptionally good service, not a mandatory requirement because businesses don't want to pay people properly.
I'm in the UK so I don't think tips are "expected", but I do like to tip in restaurants for good service. My main problem is I never carry cash around, and while a lot of restaurants have card machines that allow tips to be added, there are a bunch that don't. And then I feel guilty for not tipping if we did get great service :/
Why should I be responsible for paying someone's salary if I'm not their employer? Here in Iceland waiters often get offended by American tourists trying to tip, since they feel like it implies they are not being payed enough. Going to the U.S next month for PSX though, not sure how much, if it all, I will tip.
People doing the same work can earn wildly different wages (and pay wildly different rents) depending on where they live. Service in expensive restaurants is much more comprehensive too, and may require to pay for your own expensive clothes.
You and others are just being dicks not wanting to pay for a service, and the system is fucked making waiters have to beg and put up with sexual harassment and other disgusting abuse just to earn their money.
In civilized countries waiters make decent salaries, and tips are a small extra, not the bulk of the salary.
I've never had a bad restaurant experience that warranted no tip and I've never never been anywhere particularly fancy or snobby enough to have listed what the appropriate tip amount should be. I don't think it's a big deal to give the waiter $5 for taking my order and bringing me the food.
I'm just about the same except for the take out part and I usually start at 20% for sit down restraunts but I think I'll start doing that for my favorite places
Forced tipping is bullshit, the restaurant should just hide it in the price instead of the illusion of choice.
Being made to tip is just a slimy way to get around not paying their staff enough.
I'm not American but that's how I felt after seeing my UNO bill last month. Service was definitely nothing worth tipping!
Being made to tip is just a slimy way to get around not paying their staff enough.
I'm not American but that's how I felt after seeing my UNO bill last month. Service was definitely nothing worth tipping!
I'm not sure why, but I usually feel guilty if I don't tip at least 20%. I usually tip the same amount when it's takeout...and I'll sometimes even tip extra if I know the person I'm out with is tipping low.
Also, I am a person who is notoriously taken advantage of because of my kindness, which has gotten me into trouble financially several times. I'm getting better though...
Also, I am a person who is notoriously taken advantage of because of my kindness, which has gotten me into trouble financially several times. I'm getting better though...
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Erm, yes we do....it's not the same structure but we do in fact tip
I generally tip unless I don't get good service. Was in New York a couple of years ago and we got a lot of terrible service so didn't tip. If you can't be bothered to give me a menu, take my order or bring me drinks, why should I tip you?
Think about what female servers have to put up with in order to make that money. Women in the service industry are often seen as subservient and lower status than their customers, which makes them easy targets for harassment (sexual or otherwise). If they speak up or act angry, cold or offended, it very directly jeopardizes their ability to make their rent. Some men turn ugly and vindictive when a woman they think is beneath them acts critical of them, especially when they thought that they're being "nice".
From a study on sexual harassment in the restaurant industry (which looks at more than just harassment from customers and also has stats on men and transgender workers): http://rocunited.org/wp-content/upl...al-Harassment-in-the-Restaurant-Industry2.pdf