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North Dakota Geology Survey Paleo unveils mummified dinosaur. More pics added.
- Thread starter Cow Mengde
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Just gonna keep posting this pic for people who say this.
- Limbs and feet not having feathers doesn't mean an animal is featherless. Have you seen an actual bird before? Bird legs and feet are scaled and have no feathers...
Just gonna keep posting this pic for people who say this.
Just gonna keep posting this pic for people who say this.
Yeah but this is an exception to the rule. Usually bird feet do not have feathers. So the fact that the dinosaur foot in the OP does not have feathers says nothing at all about dinosaurs having feathers or not.
There are actually several different kinds of birds with feathers on their feet, not just that one type of chicken. How about a dove this time?
Guys, birds don't all have feathers on their feet. This same dinosaur could have been plastered with feathers elsewhere.
I also think feathers make them even more fascinating. Don't understand the want for them to be totally scales. So outdated at this point.
That hoof though, phew
I also think feathers make them even more fascinating. Don't understand the want for them to be totally scales. So outdated at this point.
That hoof though, phew
For many people, it's not a joke. And the sentiment behind it is the same that lead to climate change denial and fucked the planet. So while this is obviously not nearly as important, it's part of the same mentality of ignoring reality and scientific findings.
1. That chicken's legs and feet still have scales under those feathers, scales and feathers occur on the same body parts in these cases 2. This is a human-made chicken breed, bred specifically for the mutation of having leg-feathers, not a naturally occurring species. In nature, the vast majority of bird species have unfeathered legs and feet, and the very few that do have feathered feet, like Snow Owls, still have scales beneath the feathers.Just gonna keep posting this pic for people who say this.
The purposeful ignorance of the few birds that do have feathery legs is the same argument as the earth isn't getting hotter because it snowed yesterday.
Why does everyone keep chatting about if birds have feathers on their legs or not? Do birds have hooves???
There are actually several different kinds of birds with feathers on their feet, not just that one type of chicken. How about a dove this time?
It doesn't matter though. The fact that some birds have feathers on their feet does in no way prove that dinosaurs had no feathers because dinosaurs did not have feathers on their feet.
Some people here are saying dino's had no feathers because there are no feathers on the feet, while we know that having feathers on a foot is not nescessary for having feathers as most birds prove.
Some chickens and pigeons that do have them do not influence that at all.
No one said they didn't have scales underneath. People were saying modern day birds don't have feathers on their legs and I just spent 30 seconds on google searching to find out that, no several varieties of chickens, doves and so forth do have feathers on their legs. My bigger point was that it was silly making the fact that birds don't have feathers on their legs is somehow a big determining point that obviously Dinosaurs were the same.
And my point was that it was a silly thing for so many people to say birds have no feathers on their feet as some kind of gotcha that all dinosaurs must be the same.
The people obsessed with wanting to have no feathers on dinosaurs are showing their ass way too much.
man you nearly made me laugh 🤭
yep. "All dinosaurs had feathers" was never the narrative. Nor was it "everywhere on their bodies".
It's really cool that ornithopods, the first group of dinosaurs known to us, still has so many surprises.
We began by thinking they looked liked this:
Great Jagras?
It's not a silly gotcha at all. It is a (slightly too general) reaction to a stupid argument.
Some people saying: Lol...see no feathers!
Reaction: Lol birds don't have feathers on their feet either...so that proves nothing!
Your whole argument is that the reaction of people should have been: Lol...99% of birds don't have feathers on their feet either!
They claim they're being funny, but they more resemble your average anti-science trumper. Just shut the fuck up and deal with it already jesus.
Are ya'll seriously arguing about whether it had feathers or not... Just enjoy the fucking amazing discovery for once.
And my point still stands that acting like birds not having feathers on their feet somehow applies to dinos as its not like there aren't birds today who do have feathers on their feet. That and the tens of millions of years of evolution to change things up further in any direction or way.
That argument doesn't really work because all your examples are not natural evolution but human-made breeding, those chickens and doves wouldn't exist if humans hadn't forced "unnatural selection" on the species.
Featherless feet are used as an argument that dinosaurs did not have feathers.
Your few examples of birds with feathers on their feet have no relevance to the just mentioned argument whatsoever.
Your only point is: Some bird have feathers on their feet.
Nice. Has no relevance to the feather discussion of dinosaurs at all.
This thread is the most HYPE I've experienced since.... I don't know anymore.
I feel like a kid reading about dinosaurs again. We really have no idea about them at all.
Why isn't this news plastered everywhere on the internet yet? I get that is a leak but this is pretty huge.
I feel like a kid reading about dinosaurs again. We really have no idea about them at all.
Why isn't this news plastered everywhere on the internet yet? I get that is a leak but this is pretty huge.
This is amazing.News should be coming soon.
This is an Edmontosaurus front limb. You can see the details. The biggest surprise is the hoof. No one expected a hoof on these guys.
Not a chance that any DNA has survived millions of years. It just isn't possible.
I completely forgot I used to watch that show. Thanks for the 20 minutes of nostalgia.
That sounds a lot like this story from a decade ago. Similar description of what that photo is and found in North Dakota.
No people were saying modern day birds didn't have feathers on their feet which is why I posted the examples I did as it wasn't worth a large essay when people were making 1 sentence retorts.
Because its a leak
There is a national geographic story posted in the thread but the news wasnt supposed to hit this early lol
You really seem to be missing the point as to WHY people were saying modern day birds also don't have feathers on their feet though.
Are we sure this isn't the same one from 2007? The link I posted calls it a Hadrosaur and describes the intact skin, the hooves, etc... and Edmontosaurus is a Hadrosaur.
It just seems too similar. That 2007 article even mentions a NatGeo story.
I'll search the thread to see which one is posted here and when it is from.
Unless they found another.
It just seems too similar. That 2007 article even mentions a NatGeo story.
I'll search the thread to see which one is posted here and when it is from.
Unless they found another.
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It is the same one. Takes a long time to prepare and study it.
More pics coming later today.
I am the source. I have become the source. The original source deleted it, but I didn't know it was leaked early and shared it elsewhere. So now I have become the source.
Because it is (I think?).
It can take a long ass time between the initial discovery of a fossil and the presentation of the full restored thing.