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Norway: One injured in shooting at Oslo mosque, shooter allegedly posted about the attack on 8chan, see Threadmark.
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We don't need Trump, Europe has plenty of racists and xenophobes.
No one being killed in these kind of situations is amazing and beautiful news, which tragically doesn't appear much when these things occur(it's usually loss of life you hear about). Sad that someone was injured though, but hope they pull through. Kudos to the law enforcement folks for the quick arrest and containment.
This will likely only bring the community closer together, since they are likely all in an inclusive environment, unlike certain other places in the world.
This will likely only bring the community closer together, since they are likely all in an inclusive environment, unlike certain other places in the world.
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Oh wow, I was wondering why there was only one casualty. These people usually go for numbers. Those people who took him down are legit heroes.
Also according to norwegian news the guy who first rushed and overpowered the shooter was in his 70's
Too close. Any word if it's classed as terrorism?
That has implications for the investigative mandate and the sharing of knowledge between countries.
Edit: Could be relevant if this tracks to Reddit,8chan and such.
That has implications for the investigative mandate and the sharing of knowledge between countries.
Edit: Could be relevant if this tracks to Reddit,8chan and such.
Good thing there were no fatalities.
Your statement is correct, but do we know what the actual motive was in this case?
Your statement is correct, but do we know what the actual motive was in this case?
All the local mosques around here have now had seminars on what to do in active shooter scenarios. It's sad.
However, rushing the shooter is a legitimate strategy, as sad as it is. Usually these guys are fucking cowards and can be overpowered easily. In New Zealand a shooter was scared away by someone who threw a credit card reader at him.
Norway mosque shooter allegedly posted to 8chan before attack
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Indeed. Thank god you cannot buy assault rifles here, though...
Trump is a symptom of white supremacy, he isn't causing this.
Well, when you are a hardened criminal and/or know people with connections to Cold War army supplies you can. It's just that most countries in Europe don't go "whelp, might as well let everyone have one if criminals can get their hands on it".
I'm glad that this asshole couldn't cause more harm. Massive respect for the people restraining him.
Could have been much worse. Any word on what type of gun he used?
Hopefully the injured person gets through this. Tomorrow is Eid so I hope nothing more happens.
Hopefully the injured person gets through this. Tomorrow is Eid so I hope nothing more happens.
Come on dude. If you go into a mosque looking to shoot up the place it's pretty obvious what the motive was.
It's a downward spiral, Trump was caused by it and now causes more of it.
I'd say he's more like a catalyst of racism. Or an accelerant. His islamophobic / racist rhetoric is pretty much being blasted out to all racists in the whole world, because every insane thing he says gets headlines in the media or shared on social media ad nauseum.
He is simply normalizing it. Showing people it is okay to demonstrate their true thoughts because hey, you can even still become president.
Yep I agree that's the most likely reason, but not the only one.
step back for a second and think about what you're posting, ya dingus
It could possibly be a personal dispute of some kind. Again it's most likely to be what we all think it is, but it's best not to jump the gun without any actual information on the case (unless I missed it).
Edit: saw the thread mark about 8chan. Was after my first post. That more or less confirms suspicions.
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Self-radicalisation into terrorism is still a relatively new phenomenon and we're lacking solid criminological and psychological research to produce adequate warning intelligence. Right now, it's mostly based on a collection of known and statistically relevant trigger factors but it's not an exact science. Which also means that a lot of countermeasures / investigative tactics can't be employed because the laws governing those have high burdens of proof (rightly so.)
Research and intelligence have been improving steadily since the Utøya attack but things are escalating faster than security services can keep up.
I have a few ideas to get us started.
Shut down nazis on social media and all the chan like sites. Deplatform them and cut the propaganda and recruitment network they created. Heavily fine any platform that doesn't comply. Shut them down if they persist. I don't give a shit whether it's 8chan or Facebook or Steam. If you provide a social platform you are mandated to moderate it. Stop coddling tech bro cunts. We need accountability for these corporations.
And punch more nazis.
Or putting it a simpler way. Take this shit seriously.
So basically legislation and direct action? That's outside the the law-enforcement/intelligence sphere I was describing but fair enough, go for it.
Sorry for sidetracking your reply. You're right up to a point. But i think a lot of it could be avoided if those investigating this looked and acted in the right places. Everyone here knows how and where this shit festers, why don't those whose job is to investigate it? In the US, for example, there is extreme resistance from the fascist adjacent institutions to do their jobs when it comes to white supremacy. Sites that promote white supremacy should just not be allowed to function, period.
I keep hearing about how these things are too new, and i just don't buy it tbh. The internet is not new. Message and image boards are not new. Nazi sites are not new. Online grooming and recruitment is not new. Nothing here is new except for how openly things are done nowadays.
As another aside, and example of how every priority is fucked up, here in the UK i cannot access a torrent site like Pirate Bay, whether i actually wanted to pirate something or not. It's blocked and i need to jump through hoops to access it if i want to (i don't). But if i want to mingle with some good ole nazis and plan terrorist attacks, every ISP says that's just fine and dandy.
Honestly, i have no hope. As long as we keep building our entire society around the concept of hoarding wealth, shit's gonna stay broken.
