Ridiculous. You don't have the pay to listen to the radio, you shouldn't have to pay to just listen to music online.
so you are saying that youtube/youtube channels need to pay royalties to the artist/copyright owners?Ridiculous. You don't have the pay to listen to the radio, you shouldn't have to pay to just listen to music online.
Ah yes, an incomplete CD only released in limited quantities in Japan is definitely a great substitute for putting them on streaming services everywhere.
The lengths some of you go to defend Nintendo is just ludicrous.
Do I deserve inefficient capitalism?
Next time, state your philosophical and moral viewpoint before accepting legality as the "be all, end all".
Remember, new laws actually get created.
That is a cool story, one that is unlikely to be possible even for the people posting in this thread.
so you are saying that youtube/youtube channels need to pay royalties to the artist/copyright owners?
because radios works like that.
It amazes me, even given Nintendo's reputation, that they haven't followed Square/Enix's direction and done this. As of right now, Nintendo makes basically $0 in the United State on their soundtracks. If they uploaded them to the streaming services they would start pulling in some serious cash. Obviously it would require some effort, writing metadata and making sure the rips/masters are good, but the opportunity is right there.I wouldn't care if they would at least put this shit on Apple Music / Spotify. Seriously, either give us a legal way to stream the music or stop going after these reuploaders.
and where did i insinuate/said another thing?And you know what a lot of music owners do? They license their music to be played on Youtube instead of taking it all down. Funny how that works.
and where did i insinuate/said another thing?
i was just saying to that poster that even on radio someone is paying the creators/copyright holders.
An outline agreement was reached for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) in October 2015, and a signing ceremony was held for the agreement in Febru-ary 2016. The TPP requires ① Extension of the term of protection for copy-righted works, etc., ② Certain crimes of copyright infringement to be made prosecutable without the need for a formal complaint, ③ improvement of a system of effective technological measures for managing use of copyrighted works, etc. (access control), ④ grant of remuneration right to secondary use fees of online music distribution, and ⑤ improvement of a system for pre-established damages.
The Creators continue their creative activities based on the return they are paid for the use of their copyrighted works. The compensation system for private sound and visual recording has turned into an empty shell by rising new devices and services. Therefore, appropriate return to the cre-ators becomes an issue and the subcommittee has discussed how to solve this issue.④ Response to international Issues concerning copyrights
The subcommittee has discussed responses to cross border Internet piracy and international rules concerning copyrights.(3) The establishment of penalties for illegal downloads
Following the amendment of Copyright Law in 2009, with the revision of the Copyright Act in 2012, a criminal penalty is imposed in cases of know-ingly downloading illegally distributed digital sound or visual recordings, when these recordings are sold or distributed for a fee, even if the purpose is private use. (However, no claim will be filed unless there is a complaint from the right owner.)
As more people use digitized information and access digital networks, they are able to copy a variety of works on the Internet more easily. At the same time, digitized works are being distributed more actively across national bor-ders. JCO is promoting the construction of antipiracy measures and an inter-national rule to cope with these new circumstances.
While interest has been growing in recent years in works created in Japan, including musical products and game software, illegal copies of such Japanese works are being produced and distributed on a large scale outside Japan, espe-cially in other Asian regions, causing serious problems for Japanese right holders.To prevent the production and the distribution of pirated copies, it is essen-tial to provide an environment that allows Japanese copyright owners to take prompt actions in the regions where copyright infringements occur.
This should be a new thread tbh.There's actually a new Japanese law revised in 2016 about an Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement in October 2015 where it said the following:
In other words, the distribution of video game soundtracks on YouTube without permission from respective copyright owners is considered illegal copies of Japanese works, and thus prompt actions must be taken (YouTube channel takedowns).
Nintendo copyright claiming the soundtracks and taking prompt actions here is warranted and justified, and there's nothing we can do about it.
Feel free to take it.
If Nintendo is required to be so aggressive about copyright strikes by law then why don't we see other Japanese publishers do the same thing?
(However, no claim will be filed unless there is a complaint from the right owner.)
In some parts of the world you do.Ridiculous. You don't have the pay to listen to the radio, you shouldn't have to pay to just listen to music online.
According to the other thread, if Nintendo let's people listen to their music, they would... *double checks notes* no longer be allowed to ever make music ever again.How does it harm Nintendo to let people listen to their game soundtracks?
If Nintendo is required to be so aggressive about YT music upload copyright strikes by law then why don't we see other Japanese publishers do the same thing? (And maybe people wouldn't have to find Nintendo music on YouTube if only Nintendo made more of an effort to make it officially available...)
Square Enix was infamously aggressive about hunting down music download sites in the pre YouTube days, wouldn't be surprised if they were still at it. Then you have the record companies like Nippon Columbia that will hunt down music if the publishers aren't. iDOLM@STER music is often taken down by them or Bamco.If Nintendo is required to be so aggressive about YT music upload copyright strikes by law then why don't we see other Japanese publishers do the same thing? (And maybe people wouldn't have to find Nintendo music on YouTube if only Nintendo made more of an effort to make it officially available...)
Besides not answering the question asked, one other company is not representative of japanese publishers typically taking the same actions as Nintendo.S-E went on a takedown spree a few months ago if I recall correctly
Love all the morality == legality takes in here, because literally no one that's saying this is shitty is saying it's illegal of Nintendo to do
Since you "double check", can you give us a source for your claim?According to the other thread, if Nintendo let's people listen to their music, they would... *double checks notes* no longer be allowed to ever make music ever again.
SE did that around the same time they put the soundtracks on Spotify. So SE was protecting a direct revenue stream whilst giving people a free way to listen to the soundtracks. It's a very different situation.S-E went on a takedown spree a few months ago if I recall correctly
Unpack this more: what benefit does Nintendo derive from allowing people on YouTube (or wherever) to upload their music? Could the same be extended to film soundtracks or TV scores or whatever other medium you want to apply it to?
They are able to monetize these uploaders' videos through Content ID, so that's one benefit.Unpack this more: what benefit does Nintendo derive from allowing people on YouTube (or wherever) to upload their music? Could the same be extended to film soundtracks or TV scores or whatever other medium you want to apply it to?
There is a high liked tweet acting as if all the song were gone form youtube when you can easily find itIt's funny that when this thread was made the big issue was the removal of Three Houses music.
Just a quick search on YouTube now and there's plenty of results.