Cool beans. Disagree. That’s ok. But back it up. Tell me why you disagree, otherwise you’re not telling me anything other than you disagree lol.
Unreal. Sure dude, I'll take my day in court then. I mean, to me there is a marked difference but that's just mu opinion.
CMON what?
Look, I never even called you a centrist, I said you were coming from some sort of enlightened centrist position. You don't have to be a centrist to do that, plenty of people who would consider themselves liberal or even republicans have centrist views on some things. I don't now what you mean that I refused to defend it. I don't thin you're further left than me but I think you think you are, but it's not like it's a race or whatever anyways.
I've responded to everything you've asked me in a civil manner.
Wait, that’s Spencer? He looks a bit different in that photo. Was it before he started catching hands?
Not t initially it didn’t.
Seeing the people he is hanging out with and the kind of people donating to his cause, it’s not really a joke anymore. People are using this situation to advance and mainstream an ideology in the guise of free speech.
Pretty much the UK's version of Richard Spencer
You’re not defending free speech, you’re defending hate speech under the cover of jokes(not even satire). I’ve made it clear I don’t believe many posters are simply “defending free speech”. This thread has a lot more posts than worse examples of free speech being violated.
...What? I made a whole post about it, you even quoted it!
And I responded here:
You're just going around in circles, I have no idea what you're getting at.
Count Dankula has always been a shitlord, so I'm not surprised he's hanging out with Milo and his ilk, but I still disagree with how the courts/judge handled the situation.
Oh, now I understand why you didn’t wanna elaborate lmao. In the same post, you accused me, and other in this thread rightfully defending free speech, as being Nazi apologists lol. And then made some odd conflations and gibberish about putting people into camps and how words will lead to that? Yeah, on second thought, I’m good lol.
Oh damn. I’ll watch that shortly. Know thy enemy and all that
Haha ok. I literally never used the word apologist but keep the spin up, you’re doing a great job of it in this thread
I don't like DeFranco, I think he's a fence sitter like Boogie. But you can't honestly believe that that woman can publicly attack him in social media like that and he can't show her employers what she's doing. If that's harassment, then every single person who's been fired for something they did online has ben harassed.
I was just pointing out that things lose their meaning or can be construed however you want f you remove the context from it. Though I probably should've just said that from the get go rather than just be semi-trolly with it
Like this. I feel like im going crazy with a bunch of people stripping all the context from the situation.
Wow, yeah not someone I would want to associate myself with. Didn't recognize him without the fist on his face, it suits him so well.
I would have appreciated if you had said that versus trolling because there could be discussion to be had there. I think most of us are generally aware you have to be cognizant of the context of things, but what context did I remove? The context in this case is a guy who retweets racists and teaches his dog a nazi salute and says to gas jews and accepts money from a terrible individual.
the context that the pug stuff was purely played for a laugh.
You listed the words he said and basically asked “how could this not be hate speech if he said ‘gas the Jews’?” Even if you think that an attempt at a joke is not an excuse for what the guy did, you removed that context deliberately to try to trap someone into just refuting or denying that “gas the Jews” is a hateful statement.
I can't read this without thinking of Mike Matei and Loco Bandito.
I explained how those were actions and listed them concisely, That isn't what I "basically asked" at all, and it was in *the context* of a conversation with another individual.
Just because I don't type every bit of context in every post doesn't mean I discount it.
His response was to troll me, it was ridiculous and he got a warning for being disingenuous, what is there to defend there exactly, or what argument are you trying to make off the back of a disingenuous post?
Some people? It was one dude, and it wasn't for "not going along with the common thought", it was for downplaying antisemitism.
The content of my post was trolling but I was making a genuine point.
Look closely at the shirt the dude is wearing in the picture with Robinson. The only people I know wearing stuff with the Valknut on it are Nazi scum.
And he's a terrible person for all of those things.
David Baddiel found it a challenge too
https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/count-dankula-nazi-dog-baddiel/
Yeah, it's a pretty balanced take, with some education on how the alt-right work.
Notably,
Therein lies one of the big issues with this law, not just around the subjectivity of being "grossly offensive", but that the general public, for the most part, are all over the place with what could and can get you arrested and charged. Hence why some comedians started the "panic" of "Can I now be arrested for telling jokes on stage?". Apparently, no. You'd also imagine the police wouldn't go after anyone with money for being "grossly offensive", hence why PewDiePie did not get arrested.
YouTube/Twitter/Facebook and social media in general are falling into a "weird place", because they are not private, and they are also not a "stage" or some sort of private event. The UK police, notably the CPS, is taking it as if social media is similar to making a telephone call to someone else, and being offensive towards them on the phone. So if someone complains about your social media post, or video, you can essentially be arrested and charged.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/woman-who-posted-rap-lyrics-14543694
him, luckley & co are such unhappy human trash, it's not surprising they can't come up with worthwhile uses of their money...then again, neither can bezos
Pretty much. Did him having friends like that even have an effect on the trial? If not then it doesn't really matter beyond acknowleding that he's an asshole.
Probably an ironic tattoo.never have heard of this guy before (dancula). people here are saying he's alt right but someone shared this on discord
Never heard of him but talking about him on discord?? Anyway, he identified as a communistnever have heard of this guy before (dancula). people here are saying he's alt right but someone shared this on discord
EDL, BNP, British Freedom Party, AND Pegida UK. Hitting all the British Nazi checkboxes, this Tommy Robinson fella.
what do you mean?
Yeah, I agree. It adds considerably to the discussion.
The only discord I use is for FootyEra and then I'm not always using it. Migrating to here was the only reason I even installed discord lol. My phone's on telegram more often, but that's cause of Android development. I wish all these communication apps were unified. It seemed to start off with WhatsApp and now there are lots of them.
