Scuffed Member Oct 28, 2017 5,148 Mar 19, 2020 #33,001 AlexBasch said: See, I'm not being a conspiracy nut but rather a scared regular Joe, but now I'm starting to wonder if we'll never know if the Chinese government are bullshitting and that we'll never know the true amount of dead people in there. Click to expand... Click to shrink... It's not a CT. The CCPs top priorities are secrecy and lies. We have enough infection going on all over the world and those are the only outcomes or info I look at. I don't put much credence into any info coming out of China. Like I said we have a lot of countries suffering through this now so I defer to thier data and how things are going in thier countries. The place I look at as having great success is SK as they are trustworthy and are the place everyone should strive to mimic.