Novel coronavirus (COVID-19) resources and discussion thread (Discussion guidelines in OP)

Dphex · Mar 25, 2020

elty said:
So what does the federal government do? I don't believe they did nothing. Even Trump send 200 ventilators to New York.

most hospitals are themselves starved of materials. my girlfriends sister works in healthcare in a german hospital, they are constructing their shields and masks themselves because there is nothing left. basically it is "if you don´t have symptoms you can go ahead and work". tell that someone who had cancer a few years ago and is already immune system compromised..

it is baffling that western countries were not prepared for a situaton like this

louie · Mar 25, 2020

Thunder11 said:
masks for what? Hospitals and health care workers desperately need those

stay home and don't hog precious supplies

This doesn't apply to everywhere. I get a lot of friends and family telling me this when I upload photos online, but where I'm at in Malaysia the government have ordered people to wear masks at all times outside.

Einchy · Mar 25, 2020

Working retails right now shows you all the dumbasses that will kill all of us. I'm constantly having to dodge people all day cus they keep getting real close to me even though they didn't have to. I'm still seeing people openly coughing or touching their face. I'm still seeing people constantly talking to friends inches apart. I'm seeing huge families all going shopping even though only one person should be doing it.

It's so frustrating that stupidity will bring everything crumbling down.

Movies where there's one dumbass who gets everyone killed are very unrealistic, it should be everyone who is the dumbass aside from one or two people.

Kevers · Mar 25, 2020

Einchy said:
Working retails right now shows you all the dumbasses that will kill all of us. I'm constantly having to dodge people all day cus they keep getting real close to me even though they didn't have to. I'm still seeing people openly coughing or touching their face. I'm still seeing people constantly talking to friends inches apart. I'm seeing huge families all going shopping even though only one person should be doing it.

It's so frustrating that stupidity will bring everything crumbling down.

Movies where there's one dumbass who gets everyone killed are very unrealistic, it should be everyone who is the dumbass aside from one or two people.

We also get the people who just have to run out to the store for a 6 pack of beer.

Dphex · Mar 25, 2020

louie said:
This doesn't apply to everywhere. I get a lot of friends and family telling me this when I upload photos online, but where I'm at in Malaysia the government have ordered people to wear masks at all times outside.

that is the difference, asia tells people "wear masks" and western countries say "nah, public don´t need no masks, reserve it for healthcare" (which makes little sense)

Deleted member 32679 · Mar 25, 2020

Einchy said:
Working retails right now shows you all the dumbasses that will kill all of us. I'm constantly having to dodge people all day cus they keep getting real close to me even though they didn't have to. I'm still seeing people openly coughing or touching their face. I'm still seeing people constantly talking to friends inches apart. I'm seeing huge families all going shopping even though only one person should be doing it.

It's so frustrating that stupidity will bring everything crumbling down.

Movies where there's one dumbass who gets everyone killed are very unrealistic, it should be everyone who is the dumbass aside from one or two people.

I'm just happy my retail job closed down for 2 weeks since I was worried of experiencing what your going through.

Halbrand · Mar 25, 2020

I've been staying at home in Canada for the past two weeks now only going out for groceries and luckily my whole family can work from home. It's insane to see so many in America in usually conservative states not caring and getting infected.

console_logger · Mar 25, 2020

Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.

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Trump's job approval is now at a record high (49% approval, 45% disapproval), never been better. The coronavirus has been good for him politically.

ostrichKing · Mar 25, 2020

console_logger said:
Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.

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Trump's job approval is now at a record high (49% approval, 45% disapproval), never been better. The coronavirus has been good for him politically.

It won't be...America tends to rally around their president at first during a crisis...as the death toll grows his numbers will go down...

fragamemnon · Mar 25, 2020

devSin said:
Louisiana and Georgia are really bad.

And they're really behind on testing. It's only the tip of the iceberg for them.

It's going to be really, really bad. It always was going to be bad in the South and Appalachia, the yearly flu deaths are highest there per capita, but these states simply don't have the resources, advanced logistics and coordination to fight this.

Nordic4tKnight · Mar 25, 2020

console_logger said:
Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.

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Trump's job approval is now at a record high (49% approval, 45% disapproval), never been better. The coronavirus has been good for him politically.

Rally around the flag moment and a terrible one compared to past presidents like Bush after 9/11

darkwing · Mar 25, 2020

Dphex said:
i mean i didn´t bought hundreds of masks. only enough so that we can go get some groceries in the coming weeks.

national clothing factories could/should have already switched from making other stuff to making masks. same as distilleries can switch to making disinfection solutions

true,why isn't the US doing it already

eyeball_kid · Mar 25, 2020

Nordic4tKnight said:
Rally around the flag moment and a terrible one compared to past presidents like Bush after 9/11

When the coronavirus starts hitting rural communities hard, that bump won't last and they'll realize he left states to fend for themselves.

Dodongo · Mar 25, 2020

console_logger said:
Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.

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Trump's job approval is now at a record high (49% approval, 45% disapproval), never been better. The coronavirus has been good for him politically.

I don't think that will mean anything by November

Nordic4tKnight · Mar 25, 2020

eyeball_kid said:
When the coronavirus starts hitting rural communities hard, that bump won't last and they'll realize he left states to fend for themselves.

Also doesn't help that hundreds of rural hospitals have closed over the last 4 years.

4Tran · Mar 26, 2020

darkwing said:
true,why isn't the US doing it already

It's mostly because the American government is utterly incompetent.

Dphex · Mar 26, 2020

darkwing said:
true,why isn't the US doing it already

france is already in production

LVMH Has Already Produced 15 Metric Tons of Free Hand Sanitizer This Week

A representative for the company says 50 metric tons are expected to be produced next week.

www.allure.com

Shoe · Mar 26, 2020

console_logger said:
Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.

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Trump's job approval is now at a record high (49% approval, 45% disapproval), never been better. The coronavirus has been good for him politically.

Bush approval rating spiked to 90% after 9/11. It's actually more telling that the crisis bump in solidarity is so small for Trump. That erodes very quickly as things get worse.

Deleted member 18400 · Mar 26, 2020

Gpsych said:
Source for this? Larimer County announced one today through 4/17, but can't find anything about statewide.

Sorry I was wrapping things up for my work. If you didn't get the text alert about it, you can find the information on almost any news website at this point.

Kid Heart · Mar 26, 2020

console_logger said:
Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.

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Trump's job approval is now at a record high (49% approval, 45% disapproval), never been better. The coronavirus has been good for him politically.

For his, "rally around the flag," moment that is pretty terrible. I fully expect those numbers to tank once we're another week or two into this, and the country begins to see how woefully underprepared we are. I would not be shocked if we start hitting 35% approval again.

devilhawk · Mar 26, 2020

fragamemnon said:
I think this is the more meaningful number than new cases atm, we're testing but there are a lot of tests that are taking forever to come back and get reported.
The hospitals, at least the Puget Sound, are doing OK still. PPE and testing gear still feels like the main bottleneck. I still strongly feel that the orderly shutdown of the area over the last three weeks vs. the crash dive seen everywhere else is making a big difference b/c that's how exponential functions work.

I just don't know how we get back to normalcy even if we do level things out w/o mass testing and some kind of surveillance state measures that people will balk at.

Seattle was helped by it being the first area with cases. They began shutting things down comparatively early to other cities. Seattle was also helped by the fact that so many people here are in the tech field and were able to quickly and efficiently switch to working from home. UW shut down quickly as well. It also helps that the city and state are being driven by science and medicine, not by reactionary ideology. I know that UW and Fred Hutch have had prominent roles in the decision making.

Lulu · Mar 26, 2020

Kevers said:
We also get the people who just have to run out to the store for a 6 pack of beer.

what's wrong with that?

iyox · Mar 26, 2020

fragamemnon said:
It's going to be really, really bad. It always was going to be bad in the South and Appalachia, the yearly flu deaths are highest there per capita, but these states simply don't have the resources, advanced logistics and coordination to fight this.

I think in some communities the ER is staffed by one or two docs. I can see GA getting hit pretty hard because of the community flight from ATL and its suburbs. Many of the suburban population from ATL seems to own weekend homes in the areas surrounding the TVA lakes. I could see those communities having a pretty severe issue very soon.

iyox · Mar 26, 2020

Trump's remarks about WV and FL governors "doing a good job", in relation to small number or no cases in those places last week, is another strong indication that he fundamentally doesn't understand the current crisis.

Shoeless · Mar 26, 2020

Kid Heart said:
For his, "rally around the flag," moment that is pretty terrible. I fully expect those numbers to tank once we're another week or two into this, and the country begins to see how woefully underprepared we are. I would not be shocked if we start hitting 35% approval again.

I'm morbidly curious about what's going to happen if things get bad in the mid-west/fly-over states. Most of the time, the mindset there is that Americans in that part of the country are largely untouched by the greater tapestry of global and national events.

But if even their hospitals start getting overwhelmed, and they're standing there with their elderly parent being turned away because there's no more room, and everyone knows this is a death sentence.... I really do wonder how they'll react now that it's no longer an "urban elite" problem, but something happening right there, where they live.

RedMercury · Mar 26, 2020

'Some may even die, I don't know': Former Wells Fargo CEO wants people to go back to work and 'see what happens'

Richard Kovacevich, the former head of Wells Fargo, said people should start going back to work in April even as COVID-19 deaths pile keep increasing.

www.businessinsider.com

This is what they think of us.

Lump · Mar 26, 2020

Kid Heart said:
For his, "rally around the flag," moment that is pretty terrible. I fully expect those numbers to tank once we're another week or two into this, and the country begins to see how woefully underprepared we are. I would not be shocked if we start hitting 35% approval again.

We're going to be seeing 9/11 levels of death every single day soon - as in the next 2-3 weeks. Statistically, it's inevitable. It's horrifying.

Before we could hear the train coming, and now we see the train coming, and some Americans are still perfectly okay just standing on the tracks.

If thousands of people are dying throughout the country every day and tests -still- aren't easily available to Trump's base and everyone else, then even some of Trump's staunchest supporters will turn on him because Trump's bullshit will actually be directly affecting them (just like the government shutdown of January 2019, which also dug into Trump's approval rating while it went on).

Dan L · Mar 26, 2020

console_logger said:
Presidential Job Approval Center

Explore Gallup data on presidential job approval ratings from Truman to Biden.

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Trump's job approval is now at a record high (49% approval, 45% disapproval), never been better. The coronavirus has been good for him politically.

Bush Job Approval Highest in Gallup History

President George W. Bush's call to arms in a nationwide address last Thursday evening has elicited widespread public support for a war against terrorism, as well as the highest presidential job approval rating ever measured by Gallup since it began asking the public for its evaluation over six...

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Kid Heart · Mar 26, 2020

Shoeless said:
I'm morbidly curious about what's going to happen if things get bad in the mid-west/fly-over states. Most of the time, the mindset there is that Americans in that part of the country are largely untouched by the greater tapestry of global and national events.

But if even their hospitals start getting overwhelmed, and they're standing there with their elderly parent being turned away because there's no more room, and everyone knows this is a death sentence.... I really do wonder how they'll react now that it's no longer an "urban elite" problem, but something happening right there, where they live.

A lot of the midwestern states have already initiated lockdowns, so I think they already realize how serious it is.

As for the central and southern states, well, if a lot of them don't act fast I think they are in for a really rude awakening.

Shoeless · Mar 26, 2020

Kid Heart said:
A lot of the midwestern states have already initiated lockdowns, so I think they already realize how serious it is.

As for the central and southern states, well, if a lot of them don't act fast I think they are in really rude awakening.

It looks like Louisiana is already in a bad place. The New Orleans numbers are not looking good.

HockeyBird · Mar 26, 2020

PBS put out a video about why soap is good at killing viruses and bacteria and why it's better than hand sanitizer (although it's the next best option if you don't have soap on hand)

bsigg · Mar 26, 2020

Gpsych said:
Source for this? Larimer County announced one today through 4/17, but can't find anything about statewide.

If you didn't get the alert for some reason

What you can and can't do under Colorado's stay-at-home order

Colorado residents must stay home through at least April 11. Here's the list of activities that are still allowed and businesses that will stay open.

www.9news.com

FF Seraphim · Mar 26, 2020

So Tokyo going into a soft lockdown today. Cancelled all my plans and went shopping for any essentials I needed, should of done this a day ago since everywhere is packed.
Work will decide tomorrow whats going on. Prediction by my co-workers is a hard lockdown in a week or two since it seems no one is taking the soft lock seriously.

ChrisBliss117 · Mar 26, 2020

I have zero faith in Pete Ricketts and fully expect us to get fucked when it hits Omaha.

N7Commander01 · Mar 26, 2020

FF Seraphim said:
So Tokyo going into a soft lockdown today. Cancelled all my plans and went shopping for any essentials I needed, should of done this a day ago since everywhere is packed.
Work will decide tomorrow whats going on. Prediction by my co-workers is a hard lockdown in a week or two since it seems no one is taking the soft lock seriously.

My work just told everyone to go into full hard lockdown and quarantine. All staff memebers

I think they are predicting a hard lock soon

Ulbrick · Mar 26, 2020

Got drunk last night so I'm happy I woke up (Granted 4:21 AM) pretty sober.

My grandad who's been put in a psych-ward, and is now blind after a stroke (That was also after he fell down the stairs and broke his ribs, he had a stroke in hospital about 2 days afterwards)... Now has COVID-19.

He's my adoptive parent, as is my grandma, I'm pretty numb at the moment.

Annoyingly she also went to see him on Saturday - granted they only found out he had COVID-19 yesterday and hasn't shown any symptoms but he's 70, diabetic, already has infections and I'm assuming will probably die, my grandma possibly has it - and I saw her two days ago so it's possible (I guess a 25% chance?) that I have it - and I've been working in an office since then, I was sent home yesterday.

BLAH.

FF Seraphim · Mar 26, 2020

N7Commander01 said:
My work just told everyone to go into full hard lockdown and quarantine. All staff memebers

I think they are predicting a hard lock soon

Yep, got to work from home. The fact people are only really taking this seriously is mind boggling.

the_bromo_tachi · Mar 26, 2020

FF Seraphim said:
So Tokyo going into a soft lockdown today. Cancelled all my plans and went shopping for any essentials I needed, should of done this a day ago since everywhere is packed.
Work will decide tomorrow whats going on. Prediction by my co-workers is a hard lockdown in a week or two since it seems no one is taking the soft lock seriously.

A huge increase of people at my company are now actually WFH. Some are still at the office, no idea why...I was the only one who was constantly WFH and now for the first time, my entire team is WFH. I hope people will take the request to not go out seriously.

Nordic4tKnight · Mar 26, 2020

FF Seraphim said:
Yep, got to work from home. The fact people are only really taking this seriously is mind boggling.

Postponed Olympics

TheAuldTriangle · Mar 26, 2020

America just broke 1,000 deaths. Jesus.

mellow_jack411 · Mar 26, 2020

Man I've been thinking...

Today and yesterday I felt great. The 4 days before that though my airways felt swollen almost. Last week I was over at my folks house before I felt anything and I can't remember if I put my fork I ate off of in the olive jar twice. I know this seems silly, but it's almost 1 a.m. and I'm not sure what do think.

KrigareN- · Mar 26, 2020

Is the number of cases and deaths in California relative to other states fairly representative of the actual situation? Or is there anything that's keeping it artificially "low"?

I know it's under reported, but that's true for every state. So relatively speaking, is California managing this situation more effectively?

carlsojo · Mar 26, 2020

KrigareN- said:
Is the number of cases and deaths in California relative to other states fairly representative of the actual situation? Or is there anything that's keeping it artificially "low"?

I know it's under reported, but that's true for every state. So relatively speaking, is California managing this situation more effectively?

We're a HUGE state and much more spread out.

We did lock down sooner than most, and in the bay area tech companies had instituted work from home more than a week before the bay area lockdown.

Stuggernaut · Mar 26, 2020

I think economic breakdown is scary, but dead people is scarier. WTF these people pushing so hard for everyone to get back to normal. You have multi-BILLION dollar corporations, and it sure as shit is not the super rich that are going to go back to work in public areas... nope. They are more concerned with the bottom line than with all the hard working people that line their pockets.

I know I am speaking very generally here, which I hate doing, and there are tons of great rich people/companies out there. But where does money get you when you alienate the public that spends THEIR money with you?

Same with insurance companies... it's ridiculous.

Downhome · Mar 26, 2020

carlsojo said:
We're a HUGE state and much more spread out.

We did lock down sooner than most, and in the bay area tech companies had instituted work from home more than a week before the bay area lockdown.

If a national stay at home order had been issued back then this could all be playing out is differently.

MoosetheMark · Mar 26, 2020

How are my NYC peeps holding up? I see all these quarantine videos of people in the suburbs and other states complaining from their huge backyards and giant houses, meanwhile my tiny apartment doesn't even have a balcony. It's genuinely scary leaving the house, obviously it's scary everywhere but here at the epicenter, you really are putting yourself at risk every time you step outside. I don't bother with the grocery stores, I make a bodega run every three days or so but even that is just... really intense. I'd feel a lot better if I had a mask, I wish I knew where everyone was getting them because they're apparently so plenty I see tons of them just discarded on the sidewalk.

KrigareN- · Mar 26, 2020

carlsojo said:
We're a HUGE state and much more spread out.

We did lock down sooner than most, and in the bay area tech companies had instituted work from home more than a week before the bay area lockdown.

Gotcha.

I've been very happy with how our state has handled it, and I just wanted to make sure it's been effective and not simply due to lack of testing or other factors.

darkwing · Mar 26, 2020

TheAuldTriangle said:
America just broke 1,000 deaths. Jesus.

it is not the peak yet, America could reach that number every day in several days and it will take several weeks to peak

greepoman · Mar 26, 2020

KrigareN- said:
Gotcha.

I've been very happy with how our state has handled it, and I just wanted to make sure it's been effective and not simply due to lack of testing or other factors.

Say what you will about tech bro companies but everyone I know (from friends in both blue and red States) seemed to take it more seriously than the govt and proactively took measures early.

ReactionShot · Mar 26, 2020

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