I am curious to see how much this 8 degree Celsius research holds as being optimal for the Virus. MN is finally going to be pretty consistently in that range.
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This may be the first time I've ever actually looked forward to Arizona's 110-120 degree Fahrenheit summers. Hoping that does *something* for us (besides help keep people the fuck inside)
The Mayor of Bergamo (Italy), Giorgio Gori, gave some insight on how bad the situation really is
March 1 - 24:
446 have died
136 only were officially registered for Covid-19
98 is the average numbers of dead for the month in previous years
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March 1 - 24:
446 have died
136 only were officially registered for Covid-19
98 is the average numbers of dead for the month in previous years
Giorgio Gori on Twitter
“A #Bergamo, dall’1 al 24 marzo, i decessi dei residenti sono stati 446: 348 più della media degli ultimi anni (98). I decessi ufficialmente dovuti a #Covid19 nel periodo sono 136. Ce ne sono 212 in più. Con una mortalità all’1,5-2%, i contagiati in città sarebbero tra 17 e 23mila”
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Apologies, just to clarify. Is 8 degrees celsius considered "optimal" as in it would slow down the virus, or that it would cause an expansion of the affected areas?
Well fuck. Was really hoping it was the opposite. :( Thank you for clarifying.
The only bright side to having your flip flops melt on the asphalt at 11 am.
Why would it get worse in warmer weather?
Wow...
"Many of the young people who are getting sick don't smoke, they're healthy, they have no co-morbidities. They're just young, regular people between the ages of 30 and 50 who you would not expect to get this sick."
The truth. I'm ready for it. I'm tired of the lies. Fuck this shit.
Wait. Is he saying an extra 310 people died of Covid-19 that aren't in the official statistics?The Mayor of Bergamo (Italy), Giorgio Gori, gave some insight on how bad the situation really is
March 1 - 24:
446 have died
136 only were officially registered for Covid-19
98 is the average numbers of dead for the month in previous years
Giorgio Gori on Twitter
“A #Bergamo, dall’1 al 24 marzo, i decessi dei residenti sono stati 446: 348 più della media degli ultimi anni (98). I decessi ufficialmente dovuti a #Covid19 nel periodo sono 136. Ce ne sono 212 in più. Con una mortalità all’1,5-2%, i contagiati in città sarebbero tra 17 e 23mila”
Edit: nevermind, I get it now. So 98 is the normal average, and with an extra 136 you'd expect the number to be around 230, but it's actually twice that. Wow.
Really high still... So those +50 will be counted tomorrow right?
More cases than yesterday ? This shit will never go down...
Sorry to ask again, but those anyone know where we can track the # of Testing done per day on Spain or Italy? Preferably if it also has confirmed cases.
People focuses in infected numbers, but I think that the correlation with Testing is worth reviewing.
Here, the testing has been kept to the minimum, so would like to compare results in the first 15-20 days.
People focuses in infected numbers, but I think that the correlation with Testing is worth reviewing.
Here, the testing has been kept to the minimum, so would like to compare results in the first 15-20 days.
I suppose these numbers just came late and weren't added today, it happened in the past too for other regions.
That would not let him do the rest of his job which doesn't involve the US.
Yes, fortunately at least every day around 1000 people are recovering. That's very important for the hospitals.
So much misinformation was spread about this virus - how it only affects the elderly. Where did that start?
Yes, mortality percentages are going to be vastly higher for older people, but the virus doesn't give a shit about your age.
8 degrees C isn't exactly warm. Hardest hit cities thus far have been in that range.
Coronavirus ‘highly sensitive’ to high temperatures, Chinese study says
Pathogen appears to spread fastest at 8.72 degrees Celsius, so countries in colder climes should ‘adopt the strictest control measures’, according to researchers from Sun Yat-sen University in Guangdong province.
www.scmp.com
The thing to keep in mind is that the number of young people getting sick enough to be hospitalized isn't nearly as high as the number of old people getting sick. This statement is basically saying of the young who do get sick many have no comorbidities not that many young people are getting sick overall. I think about 4 percent of people under 44 need to be hospitalized and less than 1 percent in ICU if the hospitalization data a few days/weeks ago was accurate. It basically said 20 percent of hospitalized patients were under 44 and 4 percent of patients in ICU were under 44.
This video makes me especially concerned because they are using CTs as a diagnostic tool. My wife is a lead cardio CT tech.
I think it started in China. Their original reports vastly underestimated the effects COVID would have in younger patients. It wasn't until things started to take off in Italy and France that we started to hear more and more cases of young, healthy patients dying or falling critically ill overnight. It's now hitting the U.S. and the reports of young people falling ill keeps increasing.
That's true. I just hope the youngest don't underestimate this virus by skipping quarantines. We still have some careless people spreading the virus just because they think it won't affect them. The thing is, it might.
Yeah there are young people affected but it is still unlikely you are getting hospitalized if you are younger.
The perspective from the video is from a person who deals with those young people, so it might appear more severe than it is.
Still: stay home if you can.
In the first weeks we (Spain) did very few tests: 30k total on the 15 of this month. Now supposedly we are on 15k-20k tests each day, since we have adquired the fast detection tests.
8 degrees C isn't exactly warm. Hardest hit cities thus far have been in that range.
Coronavirus ‘highly sensitive’ to high temperatures, Chinese study says
Pathogen appears to spread fastest at 8.72 degrees Celsius, so countries in colder climes should ‘adopt the strictest control measures’, according to researchers from Sun Yat-sen University in Guangdong province.
Weird, I thought viruses in general did better in colder weather? Here in Minnesota we are going from like 30 to the 40/50s soon, so you would think that would make the virus less capable?
From what I've seen the 50 F range this virus seems to like. So no.
There is a huge difference between having the most cozy hospital beds with the best service and having the most ICU beds and being equipped for catastrophes.
Demanding a test isn't just possible right now. What do you want the test to do? If you have symptoms, self quarantine and isolate,if they get severe call a hospital or your doctor. If you have symptoms after being in contact with someone who was tested positive,you also get your test.
With 350k tests a week it takes over five years to test every citizen in germany.
The top list of healthiest people in the world is great for showing how covid 19 doesn't care about this list.
Vastly higher doesn't mean it cannot put young people in serious health risks. We should have been more cautious - no use in making anyone feel 'safe' when all this leads is to them taking unnecessary risks and thinking they are invulnerable.
Numbers I saw from CDC last week was something around 20% hospitalization rate and 4% ICU for 20-44
Severe Outcomes Among Patients with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19
COVID-19 can result in severe disease, including hospitalization, admission to an intensive care unit, and death, especially among older adults. Everyone can take actions, such as social distancing...
www.cdc.gov
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So which is which? Because between 500k per week and 400k in 2 weeks is a very big difference. If I remember well that 160k in a day was also coming from Prof. Dorsten. Which again doesn't fit with 400k in 2 weeks.
People need to take this thing seriously, for yesterday.
SoDak Numbers
Yesterdays report v Todays
Looks like we found a thousand or so test kits overnight.
Substantial Community spread continues in 2 counties.
doh.sd.gov
but our Governor is asking us to take a break and go for a walk while thinking about all the good things...
Yesterdays report v Todays
Looks like we found a thousand or so test kits overnight.
Substantial Community spread continues in 2 counties.
Coronavirus updates and information
South Dakota's The South Dakota Department of Health (SD-DOH) continues to monitor the emergence of the novel coronavirus. We are working with the CDC and our healthcare partners across the state to prepare for and respond to a potential case.
doh.sd.gov
but our Governor is asking us to take a break and go for a walk while thinking about all the good things...
Whats the level of safety for food delivery? Food transmission has been shown to be pretty low, but the failure point is people, aka the container the food is in, if the person at the store washed their hands while preparing it, if the delivery driver has been practicing hygiene, etc. Does anyone feel unsafe about ordering food deliverey that way?
Its becoming clear that Age isn't the key factor
It must be unique to your genetics and subsequently your immune response
Which means every individual that catches it may or may not handle it well.... much like a bee sting and whether you go into shock, have an allergic reaction or whatever
but obviously much worse
SoDak Numbers
Yesterdays report v Todays
Looks like we found a thousand or so test kits overnight.
Substantial Community spread continues in 2 counties.
Coronavirus updates and information
South Dakota's The South Dakota Department of Health (SD-DOH) continues to monitor the emergence of the novel coronavirus. We are working with the CDC and our healthcare partners across the state to prepare for and respond to a potential case.
but our Governor is asking us to take a break and go for a walk while thinking about all the good things...
Noem is a fucking idiot.
My fiancee is in Spearfish and was freaking out about it being detected in Mead County and I had to calm her down.
I've got a feeling this thing is about to explode in South Dakota.
Prep new food container.
Dump food in.
Ditch the containers it came in.
Wash your hands thoroughly.
And don't touch your face during this.
For all I know and hopefully today's situation is different, but we've had SARS outbreaks before and (no critical info here so feel free to skip)
"In the early stages of the SARS epidemic, health officials estimated the mortality rate at less than 4%. More recently, officials have cited rates in the 6% to 7% range. Today's SARS figures from the WHO—6,903 cumulative cases and 495 deaths—point to a case-fatality ratio of 7.2%. But WHO officials note that this calculation underestimates the rate, since some currently ill patients will die of the disease."
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"May 7, 2003 (CIDRAP News) – The World Health Organization (WHO) today estimated the overall fatality rate for SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) patients at 14% to 15%, significantly higher than previous estimates. The agency estimated the rate for people older than 64 years to be more than 50%."
www.cidrap.umn.edu
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"May 7, 2003 (CIDRAP News) – The World Health Organization (WHO) today estimated the overall fatality rate for SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) patients at 14% to 15%, significantly higher than previous estimates. The agency estimated the rate for people older than 64 years to be more than 50%."
Estimates of SARS death rates revised upward
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Just recently got back from trying to get tested but was unfortunately turned away after waiting an hour and a half at a drive-up testing site. Guess my symptoms aren't severe enough (no fever or cough) and the nurse I spoke with said that the length of time I've had my symptoms isn't suggestive of Corona (I started feeling unwell almost 3 weeks ago). She pretty much said that after two weeks I'd either be getting better or I'd be in the hospital. Still would have liked to get tested for peace of mind, but I understand that testing is limited and they want people who are showing more typical symptoms to take priority.