Well in the south there's no such thing as dry heat but I'm willing to move to the southwest if needed.from what we know it doesn't like Dry heat, so it would spread more depending on your climate.
Well in the south there's no such thing as dry heat but I'm willing to move to the southwest if needed.from what we know it doesn't like Dry heat, so it would spread more depending on your climate.
He'll no we aren't. People were packing the beaches in Florida just today acting like nothing is happening. The governor of Oklahoma sent a tweet out this weekend saying how packed the bars were. This is all contingent on states implementing their own plans right now. Though it does sound like the federal government is finally getting its ass in gear. Even some of the republican states are being very proactive at implementing distancing policies (Ohio probably is the best in the nation right now considering they have lower case loads).Is the US even remotely close to suppression state like the Imperial College report suggests?
No. Basically it's saying that if we just go our com usual course we will develop herd immunity but at the expenses of 2-4 million people dead. That doesn't include the millions that also will die from other issues but have no ICU space.
And if we go full lock down for a year, that is potential great depression.No. Basically it's saying that if we just go our com usual course we will develop herd immunity but at the expenses of 2-4 million people infected. That doesn't include the millions that also will die from other issues but have no ICU space.
The great depression and the two world wars were the great challenge of their generation.
It looks like the coronavirus is going to be ours.
And climate change will probably be our children's or grandchildren's.
Can we make it through this? With the way society is....a new depression could be the end with all the crazies, everyone loading up on guns, etc.Like others are saying, the one bright spot is that we have no choice but to change once this is over. I at least feel we will be more forward thinking about the next preventable disaster coming out of this.
from what we know it doesn't like Dry heat, so it would spread more depending on your climate.
1 day after rolling it out, drive through testing has ended in Minnesota. It overtaxed the state health labs ability to do the tests and now the directive is only test patients with critical symptoms.
Hopefully the new directive that states can implement their own testing will help lessen the burden. I work for DOH in Washington and know that public health labs are very small compared to what people might think. I haven't done research as to what the current test is, but it looks like RT-PCR, so there is some turn around time and machine constraints. Can't imagine most labs have dozens of machines to do these tests at a higher throughput. Universities will probably have to Pick up the slack until a rapid diagnostic can be developed (that will take a bit more time).1 day after rolling it out, drive through testing has ended in Minnesota. It overtaxed the state health labs ability to do the tests and now the directive is only test patients with critical symptoms.
THANK YOU for linking this. Everyone should read it.
1 day after rolling it out, drive through testing has ended in Minnesota. It overtaxed the state health labs ability to do the tests and now the directive is only test patients with critical symptoms.
More recent studies are saying the virus survives well in moist, humid air, thus making it airborne (in a away) versus strict droplet transmission. So think of it hanging out in water vapor for upwards of 3 hours rather than being confined to just sneezes or secretions. Still too early to tell because the epidemiological data isn't even available.Is there anything indicating this? I live in a state where this is a thing in the summer. I didn't think climate mattered with this virus.
Will be it worth it if it's the next depression? I'm like having waking nightmares at this point.THANK YOU for linking this. Everyone should read it.
Tough times ahead, folks. But it'll be worth it in the end.
Is there anything indicating this? I live in a state where this is a thing in the summer. I didn't think climate mattered with this virus.
The great depression and the two world wars were the great challenge of their generation.
It looks like the coronavirus (and the economic devastation that will cause) is going to be ours.
And climate change will probably be our children's or grandchildren's.
It depends on how the government handles tackling the economic disaster we're about to endure. But I'd rather deal with Great Depression II than the loss of 4 million American lives.Will be it worth it if it's the next depression? I'm like having waking nightmares at this point.
All countries can avoid a depression if we work together and support the most vulnerable.Will be it worth it if it's the next depression? I'm like having waking nightmares at this point.
It depends on how the government handles tackling the economic disaster we're about to endure. But I'd rather deal with Great Depression II than the loss of 4 million American lives.
The great depression 2 could very well cost way more when you factor in the thousands of guns out there, on top of everything else.It depends on how the government handles tackling the economic disaster we're about to endure. But I'd rather deal with Great Depression II than the loss of 4 million American lives.
Like I said, it's really going to depend on how our government handles the economic situation (UBI is pretty much a requirement, I'm now convinced a single lump sum payment to US adults won't be close to enough). You're right it could get really, really bad.The great depression 2 could very well cost way more when you factor in the thousands of guns out there.
Really bad....as in rome has fallen bad.Like I said, it's really going to depend on how our government handles the economic situation. You're right it could get really, really bad.
I mean why do I have a sneaking suspicion amazon is going to get fast tracked approval on their drone delivery experiments.Also some sort of UBI, and finding work for people will go a long way for mental health and the economy. We will need creative solutions and I reckon people will be willing to try to things to better everyone as a whole. It's not dangerous to work right now if we take precautions and find new solutions.
Sure, don't be pesimisstic humanity is too tough to be killed off by this virus.Can we make it through this? With the way society is....a new depression could be the end with all the crazies, everyone loading up on guns, etc.
You hurt their feelings, no doubt, but that was a "cruel to be kind" kinda thing. They have to take it seriously. You understand it and they, for now, don't.My parents actually went to a funeral yesterday. They're not Trumpers in denial, they're just not that worried. I couldn't imagine a worse environment in this crisis, all those old people in a church, hugging and crying. I was livid when I found out.
I called and kind of chewed her out. Maybe it's because I live in NYC and they don't, so it's so much more of a presence in my life, but I stresses in no uncertain terms they could die if they don't take this seriously.
I was trying to scare them into the reality of this situation, but I'm worried I did the wrong thing and hurt my parents. I've talked to them about it before, but I was pretty blunt and raw today.
Well that isn't terrifying at all...
Just found out that two of my idiot family members were so upset their cruise scheduled for this week got canceled that they took a weekend trip from Missouri to Puerto Rico this past weekend. :/
Maybe you need a break from this thread
For real.
Maybe, the thoughts of the next depression have me on the verge of a breakdown.
My parents actually went to a funeral yesterday. They're not Trumpers in denial, they're just not that worried. I couldn't imagine a worse environment in this crisis, all those old people in a church, hugging and crying. I was livid when I found out.
I called and kind of chewed her out. Maybe it's because I live in NYC and they don't, so it's so much more of a presence in my life, but I stresses in no uncertain terms they could die if they don't take this seriously.
I was trying to scare them into the reality of this situation, but I'm worried I did the wrong thing and hurt my parents. I've talked to them about it before, but I was pretty blunt and raw today.
No. Basically it's saying that if we just go our com usual course we will develop herd immunity but at the expenses of 2-4 million people infected. That doesn't include the millions that also will die from other issues but have no ICU space.
If the estimate of 12-18 month time-frame of rolling lockdowns and tech control measures proves accurate (I think it underestimates their efficacy, but the rest of the world needs to get on the level of China, South Korea, and Vietnam), then there is no other way around it: we're going to go to war with this disease for years and governments will have little choice but to spend deeply and deliver food, medicine, and money directly into the hands of regular folks to make it happen. Gods willing, it'll shake a lot of people out of the stupors of capitalism and save millions of lives.
Nah, they weren't close at all, it was a friend's father. Believe me if it was someone dear to us I would have been a lot more sympathetic. This was a case where they could have sent a card.I'm assuming if they attended the funeral they likely knew the person and were likely already going through a hard time. Telling them off for that comes off as incredibly callous and distasteful.
Yes sorry. I will edit. It would be like 150-200 million infected depending on fatality rate.
This is fucking bad. If this literally goes on to late in this year at least, these wack jobs are going to riot out.Gun sales are on the rise in the US. The only constant every time basically any social "shakeup" happens there:
US sales of guns and ammunition soar amid coronavirus panic buying
Long lines and ‘massive rush’ reported at gun stores across America: ‘People feel the need to protect themselves and their families’www.theguardian.com
This is fucking bad. If this literally goes on to late in this year at least, these wack jobs are going to riot out.
It could be our century epidemic. All notions of STONKS, short term gains, polls, and the market have to go out of the window. We fight to win. No holds barred.Yes. The world is at war right now. France was the first country to openly use those words and I'm starting to realize how big this will actually be for everyone.
I mean based on that guy on twitter, he basically said it's pretty damn likely.Maybe we should cut down the potential depression, riots, and "America is doomed" commentary. We really don't need that right now
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