There's actually a flattening of the curve in terms of hospitalization, so we do see a result of the quarantine. Of course you're in the hospital for 1-3 weeks, so it does work cumulatively sadly, and would indeed mean a peak somewhere in April.
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Thanks. Yeah offcourse people are gonna be there for a while.There's actually a flattening of the curve in terms of hospitalization, so we do see a result of the quarantine. Of course you're in the hospital for 1-3 weeks, so it does work cumulatively sadly, and would indeed mean a peak somewhere in April.
Germany's Number may be low, but they are not the only ones with such rates, Austria, Australia Norway etc all have similar rates, but maybe aren't that visible since they aren't high up the overall case rankings
If the german virologist Drosten which the people are quoting here would be a hack, you may as well start to not believe any Numbers you are seeing reported, as he and his team are the ones who developed the test in January which is used by the WHO around the world for Corona testing.
My parrents have one of those.. there awesome and will help those people allot!
Washington's volume of new cases/deaths has been pretty level for the last week or so...that is good right? and possibility that the distancing that has been in place for t he last 3 weeks or so, might be doing some good?
There's actually a flattening of the curve in terms of hospitalization, so we do see a result of the quarantine. Of course you're in the hospital for 1-3 weeks, so it does work cumulatively sadly, and would indeed mean a peak somewhere in April.
to be honest, that could be just an outlier. I do hope, that every country will get to this point fast, but you need more datapoints.
There were earlier reports in the thread about how pinkeye (follicular conjunctivitis) might be an early indicator of COVID-19 (in a similar way that loss of smell / taste seems to be as well). That was based on some early data, but it seems to be getting a little more scientifically sourced. American Academy of Ophthalmology guidance here with updates: https://www.aao.org/headline/alert-important-coronavirus-context
My layman interpretation of this is that whatever the virus comes in contact with gets messed up. COVID-19 in your eye...? Pinkeye. COVID-19 up your nose...? Loss of smell. I'm also guessing that it may take a threshold amount of the virus to do any of these. Obviously don't freak out the minute something doesn't smell right or your eye gets itchy. It's also allergy season so try and remain measured.
My layman interpretation of this is that whatever the virus comes in contact with gets messed up. COVID-19 in your eye...? Pinkeye. COVID-19 up your nose...? Loss of smell. I'm also guessing that it may take a threshold amount of the virus to do any of these. Obviously don't freak out the minute something doesn't smell right or your eye gets itchy. It's also allergy season so try and remain measured.
This.
Stop looking at this through a political lens- He needs support of world leaders and Trump only responds to positive reinforcement.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/us/politics/coronavirus-expertise-trump.html
It is hard to understate how big of an issue this has been in any US Federal Government response.
It is hard to understate how big of an issue this has been in any US Federal Government response.
The numbers in Portugal are definitely fake. No trust in them whatsoever.
First it was the official reported death in Azores that never happened after all. Then it was the total numbers of deaths that had to be fixed a couple of hours later after people started counting them... Today another magical thing happened, there are 15 confirmed cases in Madeira, yesterday there were 16 confirmed cases. Poor DGS intern having to guess numbers every morning...
EDIT - Even worse the total of cases with a negative result actually decreased from yesterday to today (Incredible!) from 16569 to 16568. Absolute joke. And nobody in the press notices this things?
First it was the official reported death in Azores that never happened after all. Then it was the total numbers of deaths that had to be fixed a couple of hours later after people started counting them... Today another magical thing happened, there are 15 confirmed cases in Madeira, yesterday there were 16 confirmed cases. Poor DGS intern having to guess numbers every morning...
EDIT - Even worse the total of cases with a negative result actually decreased from yesterday to today (Incredible!) from 16569 to 16568. Absolute joke. And nobody in the press notices this things?
I think she was referring to "mild" infection statistics.
Yeah,it sucks we can't test more people. I had a patient in their 90's with fever, cough, SOB and negative for influenza, pneumonia on chest x-ray but admitting Doc did not want to test. Said that it was most likely bacterial. Which it may be, but hell wouldn't hurt to know so the patient can at least be on isolation precautions until proven negative for the safety of everyone else.
Ah I see, my bad. I think these stats are fucked both ways with the wild lack of testing too.
At least the regional department of health of the Azores has been doing good work, the daily reports have been very informative.
The regional government has now arranged for two hotels in the region (one in Terceira and another in São Miguel) to be used exclusively for quarantine.
Since the national government doesn't allow us to close our airways, everyone arriving from outside the Azores will be put on quarantine in one of the hotels for 14 days, doesn't matter if they are residents of the island or tourists.
I guess when people see "mild", they usually think you will be sick for a few days, but still able to maintain some functioning and does not require too much assistance.
In reality, it looks like mild can range from everything between "no symptoms" to "you can't move but won't die immediately without a ventilator".
The most concerning is how the hospital just kicked him out and then he had to take a taxi. This is just a recipe for disasters.
Thanks to the internet I just remembered that Trump said Walmart parking lots would be testing centers. That hasn't happened. Add it to the pile of lies.
Yeah, the report on their website is very different from the one posted on Twitter (which should be the one closer to the actual numbers). But the fact that they still haven't bothered to fix the website says a lot.
Chicago aldermen say on social media that city's Lakefront Trail, parks and beaches closed
www.chicagotribune.com
As Illinois sees largest daily increase in coronavirus cases, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot bans contact sports; closes popular city parks, beaches and trails
The city’s lakefront trail, parks and beaches are closed, Chicago aldermen said in messages to constituents and social media posts.
www.chicagotribune.com
There's a ton of really beautiful pictures on the San Francisco subreddit as well. It's pretty eerie but beautiful in a way.
MN supposedly only has 250 ICU beds in the whole state per Gov Tim Walz.
That... Doesn't sound good.
That... Doesn't sound good.
Interesting video
edition.cnn.com
Why the Covid-19 death rate in Germany is so low | CNN
While Germany has some of the highest confirmed Covid-19 cases in the world, the death rate remains fairly low. CNN's Fred Pleitgen reports on Germany's response to the outbreak.
edition.cnn.com
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www.kare11.com
Scrolling over the Map Hennepin has 311, Olmsted has 218...
that doesn't sound right...
KARE 11 Investigates: Rural hospitals facing COVID-19 ICU bed shortage
Small hospitals were already financially stretched. The outbreak will make that worse
www.kare11.com
Scrolling over the Map Hennepin has 311, Olmsted has 218...
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I was watching the live time square cam on a Friday Night at 10pm...it was madness how empty it was.
Not surprised after this picture came out yesterday:Chicago aldermen say on social media that city's Lakefront Trail, parks and beaches closed
As Illinois sees largest daily increase in coronavirus cases, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot bans contact sports; closes popular city parks, beaches and trails
The city’s lakefront trail, parks and beaches are closed, Chicago aldermen said in messages to constituents and social media posts.
My doctor emailed me to setup a zoom video call today. Dunno what's that going to accomplish. My sister who was directly exposed to the virus keeps getting turned away from testing sites because she's not old enough. Both of us have been feeling worse. Good times.
Living in a hot bed of infection, it's been obviously scary, we've been holed up for almost two weeks now. The first weekend we were way more careless, we went out to dinner on that Friday night per usual, we went to my in-laws on Sunday for sunday dinner. But, started on that Monday was when everything really changed around here. School closures were in full effect, we took our daughter out of daycare -- which closed days later -- and we holed up in the house for what we knew would be at least 3 weeks, until at least first week of April when schools were poised to re-open. School delays have been pushed back to early May, now, but we'd all be shocked if kids went back before the end of the school year, ~June 20 or whenever. It's not happening.
Two weeks ago I didn't know how we'd do this for two weeks, but every day it's gotten easier to adjust, and able to take a step back and look at the history of this. This graph, in particular, is going to be one of those things that we're going to look at for all time:
FOr the next 100+ years anytime somebody looks back at unemployment rate numbers, there's going to be this spike for Q1/Q2/Q3 2020, and for all time graphs are going to point to it and say: "Coronvirus Outbreak, 2020" or something similar. Like, today we might look at unemployment graphs and have indicators that say something like "Black Monday, 1929, Great Depression" or something, or "Panic of 1837" for financial graphs or something. "World War 2," "9/11," etc. But this will dwarf them all, numbers wise. People are facing serious challenges, and I'm worried about the future, but for me it helps my mental health to take a step back and look at broad changes over time, it neutralizes the affect of the dire circumstances we're facing - for me.
Two weeks ago I didn't know how we'd do this for two weeks, but every day it's gotten easier to adjust, and able to take a step back and look at the history of this. This graph, in particular, is going to be one of those things that we're going to look at for all time:
FOr the next 100+ years anytime somebody looks back at unemployment rate numbers, there's going to be this spike for Q1/Q2/Q3 2020, and for all time graphs are going to point to it and say: "Coronvirus Outbreak, 2020" or something similar. Like, today we might look at unemployment graphs and have indicators that say something like "Black Monday, 1929, Great Depression" or something, or "Panic of 1837" for financial graphs or something. "World War 2," "9/11," etc. But this will dwarf them all, numbers wise. People are facing serious challenges, and I'm worried about the future, but for me it helps my mental health to take a step back and look at broad changes over time, it neutralizes the affect of the dire circumstances we're facing - for me.
Cuomo on in 3 minutes
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that doesn't souunds right...
KARE 11 Investigates: Rural hospitals facing COVID-19 ICU bed shortage
Small hospitals were already financially stretched. The outbreak will make that worse
Scrolling over the Map Hennepin has 311, Olmsted has 218...
Hmm. maybe many of those are already occupied? He said 243 available ICU beds at yesterdays presser
Walz: Minnesota Has a Total of 243 ICU Beds
For the first time, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is giving us a clear picture of why it is important to slow the spread of COVID-19. He says, as of Tuesday, there have been 262 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Minnesota.
Mayo doctor weighs in on Gov. Walz's assessment of COVID-19 situation
The Minnesota Department of Health has tested nearly 6,000 people who've experienced COVID-19 symptoms.
kttc.com
Interesting video
Why the Covid-19 death rate in Germany is so low | CNN
While Germany has some of the highest confirmed Covid-19 cases in the world, the death rate remains fairly low. CNN's Fred Pleitgen reports on Germany's response to the outbreak.
Was just wondering why the german death rate/hospitilization rate was so low.
If it truly comes down to testing then its interesting to compare the death rate vs the confirmed cases.
Like for example if you took the death rate in germany and applied it the death rate in Italy you would get 13 million confirmed cases.
I know there are tons of other variables to that such as age of population, and quality of health care but I think when all is said and done the numbers should
I've long suspected that
a) This has been circulating longer than people think
b) For a lot of people symptoms are so minor that they may not even know they have it or would just right it off as a cold.
To me the best way to figure out how many people could actually be infected is to compare death rates because confirmed cases is a direct result of testing which varies drastically from country to country
Miraculously my friend who has it in the hospital is doing well. The doctor had originally said his chances didn't look good-they had him on a ventilator and a medically induced coma-but now he is 95% oxygenated and is on heavy sedation. These past few days have been rough and I honestly thought he wasn't going to make it.
Yep, this is what worries me too. I'm a "relatively healthy person who exercises regularly." My impression of "mild" or "not severe" symptoms was ... Y'know, a nagging flu that would keep me from work 1 or 2 days in the past, or an annoying weeze and cough for a few days, "ah damn i can't play basketball for 2 weeks or go for a run..." sort of thing, or maybe "Eh, still got this lingering chest cold 10 days later..."
The truth is, "mild symptoms" can be body aches that make you bed ridden, painful headaches, chest pressure and asthma conditions, a persistent unrelenting cough, fevers into the 103+ range, breathlessness making it hard to talk, go to the bathroom, walk up stairs, get out of bed. In circumstances before I was in my mid-30s, these would be things I'd worry about but not be overly concerned over... "I'll be very sick for a few days." But I have a toddler. My biggest worry now is what happens if I wake up in the middle of the night unable to breath, my wife is severely ill, and we have a 20mos old. We can't call for help, my 70+ year old parents can't be exposed. My 40+ year old immunocompromised sisters can't be exposed. My wife is like Chris Traeger from Parks & rec... Her body is a microchip, finely tuned, in perfect physical conditional, but colds per her on her ass for days. When my wife has gotten sick in the past, I've always just picked up dad-duty, she'll sleep off the sickness for 1 or 2 days, then be abck at it, and I'll be primary care giver for those ~48 hours and then it'll msotly be back to normal a day or two later. When I get sick I'm usually the kind of person to shrug it off or not have it really disrupt me, like I'll be sick and not feel good, I'll go to bed at 8PM and try to sleep the whole night but ... with this, if I have lung duress, as someone who struggles with Asthma for my whole life, then... I don't know what we'll do.
I don't know what we'll do, and that's my greatest anxiety. It's the thing hanging over me.
At first I was a little caloused like, "Eh, if I get it, I'll quarantine for 2 weeks and get it over with, at least then I should be immune... We'll spend a lot of time on the couch watching disney+ instead of walking the dog..." but then I started reading first hand what the virus can do, and my mindset completely shifted... Like, I still have to carry my daughter up and down stairs, still have to change her diaper, still have to carry her to her crib, feed her, prepare meals, give baths, I have to be present with her.
ANd, of course, god forbid she gets sick. It's a mental headspace I'm not really willing to go.
Care to share how old your friend is, and any other known health concerns?
Sheesh, the average time a COVID-19 patient spends on a ventilator is 11-21 days according to Cuomo.
Seems likely, yeah. In an NPR article, an Italian doctor talked about seeing strange severe cases of pneumonia back in November and December -- and 20% of cases might show no symptoms whatsoever.
13 million cases doesn't sound quite right though, wouldn't it be about 1.5 million?
I am sorry for you that you got turned away, specially when Germany seems to test a lot from the recent news :(
I am happy for your friend that he got better.
It must have been though for both of you.
I'm in the same headspace. I'm a stay at home with 16 month old twins, my wife is working from home but in meetings literally all day so I'm still on my own. If either of us get it, we will be screwed. The boys kick my ass when I'm feeling healthy if I have to care for them while sick I basically just wish for sweet death because it's awful.